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The Benasque Summit
Topic Started: May 31 2009, 12:23 AM (851 Views)
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"Well we've stayed relatively quiet this long" said the Prince, "that I would assume any move we make with any great number of combine forces would be a surprise to the Dominion. Slight jokes aside I do see your point, but still the Dominion will have just as much trouble moving troops out of Switzerland as we would moving in. Discarding Switzerland for the time being, I still think a strike against that location in the Southern most region of the Amish lands would garner the attention we want to give our Mediterranean attack a chance."
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"Indeed, it would gather their attention," Karschburg admitted, "But once the Mediterranean operation is launched and, hopefully, successful, where do we go from there on the land front?"
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"Porcu's territories in Belgium make me nervous. It is a prime staging spot for an attack on the rear of any forward movement in that area, and provides easy access into France, where many supply lines may very well exist.

Perhaps the plan should be modified? The lowlands will not be difficult to conquer, if history is any indication. Sending a German tank group through it will decimate any resistance in the area, and securing it will make our own advances southward much easier to control. As it stands, how long until the Dominion decides to attack us through it?"
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Karschburg sighed.

"The territory has been under scrutiny for awhile. The Imperial Navy has already placed it under blockade, but they still get their supplies via the Neutral Zone," the Prince replied, "The Kasnyian Army wishes to move in, but doing so would force us to abandon our forward defenses in Cologne. However, with this decoy operation, the Dominion forces would be too busy defending the Amishland to come to Porcu's aid in the Low Countries. So then Kasnyia will move in once Germany and France make their distraction."
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"Then we must work on our relations with the French to secure this plan's success" said Prince Ribbenzoph. "Russia of course offers itself as the diplomat to the French to gain their support for our endeavor. We will also support any action against the Porcu port in mainland Russia with whatever manpower is necessary."

"In regards to a previous question, Russia feels that if we are able to secure the Amishland lowlands, as well as the Procu Port, we feel that the future of the campaign should be to bottle up the Dominion into Catholic European lands. Of course this will require the liberation of two Dominion states, but with the fleet at their rear and the coalition army at their front, the Dominion will have very little where else to go but south into Catholic Europe and then east back into the Middle East from whence they came."
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"We have to be wary of the Polish sector. They have perfect positioning to strike into the heart of both Russia and Germany. Already, South Germany has been swallowed by the beast. Quaon too."

Karschburg put out his cigar,

"And what of Scandanavia? Kasnyia's defenses in her colony there are focused to the south. It would take months to build permanent fortifications in the north and a few weeks to move the necessary mobile units otherwise. Yshurak has fallen quiet in recent years, and I do not think we can rely on them any longer."
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"The only threat Scandinavia seems to have at present is the Porcu" replied Prince Ribbenzoph. "If we take the Port I think it will give us the bargain chip to force the Porcu people to submit to a ceasefire if not a complete surrender. The Polish sector is a concern as is the backside of the Russian Empire and our neighbor the Drax. However, the Drax have a powerful army of their own and Russia feels it can field enough soldiers in the homeland that together we can watch our back while also pressuring the Polish lands. Still reinforcements from other countries if possible would be appreciated but if not, Russia will make due."

The Prime Minister ran his fingers over his forehead as he thought to himself before continuing.

"Russia and the Drax will do what they can to pressure the Polish sector while the rest of the coalition pushes towards the Amish lowlands. Once that area is secured, if the Coalition were to push east it would put Dominion forces in a pincer in the Polish sector. Of course coalition forces will also have to work west to take care of what remains of occupational forces."

"The European front will not be easy gentlemen and commanders on the ground may have to change our plans made here today several times before victory is assured. However, I put faith in our armed forces and in God. I feel either will disappoint us in the end."
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"I do not trust the Drax," Karschburg replied, "They are sympathetic to the Dominion and have even allowed one of their supply lines to cross their territory. Only their penchant for self-preservation has prevented them from openly siding with the Dominion, but I would not expect them to fight against Gassel either for the same reason. If we can convince them to fight then so can Gassel, a balancing act that we do not have time for. And remember, the Dominion has taken total control of the Polish sector. We need a detailed plan on how to retake it, backyard no not."

"But apart from strategy, what happens once the Dominion is out of Europe? We can't just end the campaign there or Gassel will return, and with greater numbers behind him. Also, many nations have completely been absorbed under Dominion rule, so how do we reconcile that? restore the pre-war boundaries? Create new states? place them under the rule of the victorious regimes? Something in between?"
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"First, we liberate Europe. Then, we discuss the future. To do so now is a waste of time."
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"It is never a waste of time to plan ahead," Karschburg replied, "Not when the enemy has the deck stacked against us. And as for the plan to liberate Europe, we need to focus on what we can do rather than attempt to poach new allies from among the neutral, for THAT is a true waste of time. We have four powers that can mobilize their forces in some fashion, so let us work with that. But we will not ignore the future."
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"Russia could sit here and defend our ally the Drax, but the time for such talk is not now" said Prince Ribbenzoph in an annoyed tone. What the Drax have done was no concern to him, their allegiance and friendship to the Tsar was all he need to convince him that they would fight against the Dominion at all cost.

"Our host has the right idea, take of the future is left best for the future since if we lose this war, the time wasted for such talk will have been in vain. If we must have a immediate plan, then I suggest the liberated territories be placed under martial law, to be headed by at least one commanding officer from each participating nation's military to act in council with one another of matters of state for that nation. This should suffice until we have liberated all of Europe. It will also allow us to control the nations long enough to re-engage their own industrial centers for our own uses unless they are destroyed by the Dominion first."

"As for the Polish sector, since most of the land forces will be in the western sections of Europe, I suggest we find ways of isolating the Polish sector from helping. A complete and utter destruction of all rail-lines and major bridges by long-range missile and air bombardment. This will force the Dominion to move much more slowly to react to anything we do in the west. Once the Lower Amish lands and occupied Western territories are secured and the border between Catholic Europe and the rest of Europe has been reinforced, we'll work our way east. Russia will antagonize the Polish territories from our borders until the rest of Europe can get to us."
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"That is easier said than done," Karschburg stated, wondering when he would be hearing more than vague pronouncements for strategy, "The Dominion rail line is built for resiliency. The map I had shown you were merely the primary rail lines, not including secondary or tertiary lines or auxillaries."

"I do agree with your plan of martial law, however. That at least is thinking ahead. As for how I believe the land campaign should go, Once the decoy attack and Mediterranean operation is underway, not only Barcelona but all of Iberia should be concentrated upon to liberate. It would give us more breathing room as well as give us control of at least the northern section of the Gibraltar straits. And apart from first knocking Porcu out of the war, I also suggest focusing German and Russian forces to seize back the Baltic coastline by focusing their forces along said coast. The inland areas of the Polish sector can be dealt with later, but if we can seize Iberia and create a five to ten mile corridor along the Baltic coast, we can at least better position ourselves for a second advance. More options should be open to us."
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Paracelsus, the Greek, spoke, "If we are to win the war we must forment rebellion among the occupied populations. We must agitate and propagandize, and appeal to the civilians behind the war-line to take up arms against the Dominion."

"Poland is a deeply pious and religious society, with a tradition of violent resistance against those foreign governments that are hostile to her traditions. I propose that we train fanatical Priests and Jesuits to infiltrate that country, where they can further spread their fanaticism to the local Priests and laymen. Once the Polish soil is impregnated with sedition our campaign will be much easier."
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"And how would one get them inside the borders?" Karschburg asked, thoughtful at the suggestion, "The borders are hardly porous after all."
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"They shall enter the country at any location where the border is weak."
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The vague statement almost had Karschburg hitting his head upon the desk in frustration,

"The Dominion border, as I just said, is not porous," he repeated, "There must be another way, or that idea will not work."
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Paracelsus pondered carefully. "If the Dominion expends this much energy guarding its vast borders from even foot-travellers, I suspect the Dominion's economy is a basket case. The Dominion's supply lines are therefore overstretched. We should attack Poland immediately, using our ample resources, which are more than sufficient. Furthermore our attack will inspire rebellions throughout Catholic Europe and weaken the enemy's ability to deploy their troops."
Edited by Tristan da Cunha, Jun 4 2009, 08:53 PM.
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"The border is blocked via walls and minefields," Karschburg replied, "So even if they were to get inside, the Dominion would know if the intrusion. And last report from the Peacock, which came in two weeks ago, said the state of the Dominion economy is as strong as ever. Which is to say, very."

"So the border is not porous, but if you wish to cross over anyway, from where would we do so. As you say, the border is vast."
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"My colleagues and I do not agree with the Peacock's findings. It appears the Peacock has been fooled by the enemy's Potemkin villages. The occupation of Catholic Europe's population alone would be a logistical nightmare for the Dominion, and a significant drain on their resources.

"If Poland is impermeable to infiltration then my plan will not work. However such totalitarian micromanagement would only be further proof of the inefficiency and inflexibility of the Dominion's economic system. The Dominion's economy is not much stronger than ours. The strength we have accumulated will finally allow us to defeat the enemy. This is why decisive action is needed now; there is no advantage to forestalling the war."
Edited by Tristan da Cunha, Jun 4 2009, 09:09 PM.
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OOC- The Peacock is correct. And seeing as all data on the Dominion has come from him since near the beginning of the war, he isn't known to be inaccurate. Dominion doesn't waste time on Potempkin villages either, as it doesn't care what the civillians do, so long as the military benefits.

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"They're economy is as such that it allows them to make their borders non-porous. That is not to say it IS impregnable, as no such border is, but simply sending priests across is suicidal to say the least," Karschburg stated, fighting his temper so as to not retort, "You're plan needs more planning, in short. I say we stick with the plan of connecting Germany and Russia via the Baltic coastline by focusing their forces together on just that area as opposed to the entire sector."
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OOC: The fate of the Dominion is written in the stars. I'm just trying to come up with a plausible IC rationale. Throw me a bone some time will ya? If you keep insisting the Dominion is an invincible leviathan there's not much that can be done in terms of RP.

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Paracelsus spoke, "I have meditated upon the stars and the cosmological movements. The fate of the Dominion is written in the stars. The plan to pinpoint our military attacks on the Baltic coastline will succeed, but we must make haste."
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While the Greek and the Kasnyian bickered, Boris scribbled a message and had an aid take it away at once, most assuredly to be transmitted back to Moscow. Finally he broke his silence.

"Gentlemen, gentlemen" demanded Prince Ribbenzoph, "We're not getting anywhere by this back and forth chatter and I have half a mind to believe my Kasnyian counterpart is doing everything within his power to sabotage this conference since it seems all he has done is defeat every other plan suggested beyond his own. However, I did not come here to bicker and complain for I came here to get results."

"Attacking and liberating the Iberia is a worthwhile venture as it will free the Romans and what forces they may still have here in the Peninsula. It will also give this base of operations more breathing room and free the ports in Barcelona. Although I don't see why we could not find all the Dominion's supply lines by way of satellite imagery and thus I feel I should question the validity to why my previously suggested Polish plan will not work, I will allow my points to remain mute. If we agree at attacking the Baltic coast then so be it, we will do just that."

"As for the Greeks plan, if you're insistent on setting up saboteurs in the Polish region, once we have the coastline, well drop you in by air and you can do as you wish, though if you don't mind we'd like to train you to blow up bridges and such, you know just in case the world of God is not a enough to instill hope in the people."
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"Most certainly. The Word of God only works if you have a stick of dynamite in your hand," chuckled Paracelsus.
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OOC- Aight aight, just don't question The Peacock. :lol:

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"That is true," Karschburg said. Then he sighed, "Look, the idea of sneaking priests across the border is sound, but only if they have security. The border is heavily guarded. I have very few land forces readily available to Kasnyia in Europe, so I do hope someone can provide the protection."

"I also have to wonder how long this would take. A rally and radicalization of the population would not happen overnight after all."

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Hey, NRE, unless you want Karschburg to lose his shit and leave the conference all together (which, by his character, he would do with the continued insults from Boris), I wouldn't insult him. He's about this close from knocking his teeth out.
Edited by Kasnyia, Jun 4 2009, 09:31 PM.
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"You're right it won't happen over night but with each successful victory we're able to succeed, I am sure more will come to our cause. History is on our side if only for the time being, let us not forget that gentlemen."
Edited by NRE, Jun 4 2009, 09:31 PM.
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