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OOC: Dominion Resistance
Topic Started: May 21 2009, 05:10 PM (1,273 Views)
Tristan da Cunha
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Imo even the Catholic Europeans living in Catholic Europe should be considered in the war. It would be interesting to consider the OOC disappearance of the Catholic Europe account and drop in Dominion power as an IC religious agitation in Catholic Europe.
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Kasnyia
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I say it again, Catholic Europe has not disappeared. Thats why NRE is not making a decision on CE's land until after the Dominion is gone. There is no drop in Dominion power. Thats now how the war will be won.
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Ulgania
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The lack of disappearance by CE in the IC realm of things is what prompted me to pose this.

Because there is to be an eventual breakdown of order, because on a religious front it is hard to ever keep cohesion between the church and state, and because the Dominion would act the same way with or without backing from a religion of any kind, there is room to consider internal resistance in CE outside of the military. While it won't be immediate, there's still room to consider and eventually exploit it. That's what I'm trying to get going.

The same goes for Paradise, and maybe Orthodox areas. Someone could RP disagreements between a church of any kind and the Dominion command of that area. An army is redirected to suppress any uprising based on the disagreement, and bam. It's an RP.
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Kasnyia
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That is certainly possible. But I fear in the interest of such RPs, they would become more important than they should be. If done right, it could be a very good angle to pursue, but if done poorly, it can cheapen things, which is why I didn't bother with the idea before.

If it can be done right, great. Depends on how you do it.
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Ulgania
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I get what you mean. That's why I was thinking of making it a tipping point for the greater conflicts to come. If things need to get started somewhere, religious uprisings could be the incident that forces Dominion forces to be stretched in Europe (later in the Middle East, if need be?)

These acts would be what gets other RPs going too, and nothing to bring a climactic struggle for influence to fruition, but would be just enough of a nudge for others to get the footing they need to act in other ways.

All of that is pretty broad, but it's intentionally broad.
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Kasnyia
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As it should be.

Anyway, I'll try and get things moving on the war. The thread is already set up, I just need to make another post or two in it. I'd rather not do it haphazardly and make for a poor story, so I'm collecitng material. Should start sometime before the weekend though.
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Tristan da Cunha
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Kasnyia
Jun 15 2009, 03:51 PM
I say it again, Catholic Europe has not disappeared. Thats why NRE is not making a decision on CE's land until after the Dominion is gone. There is no drop in Dominion power. Thats now how the war will be won.
This is highly irregular. There's been a significant drop in Dominion power. There's no way I recognize that the Dominion retroactively benefits from an account that doesn't physically exist. If you acknowledge this, it would not at all be unrealistic to allow exchanges with HRE on the basis of a porous border associated with the power vacuum in CE.

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That is certainly possible. But I fear in the interest of such RPs, they would become more important than they should be. If done right, it could be a very good angle to pursue, but if done poorly, it can cheapen things, which is why I didn't bother with the idea before.

If it can be done right, great. Depends on how you do it.


How do you know it would be done poorly?
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Kasnyia
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Because it usually is.

And The Dominion and CE are not the same thing. The Dominion's power is not affected by what happens to an ally.
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Tristan da Cunha
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What "usually is"? If you are alleging that religious RP's are usually "cheap" then you've pretty much insulted every religious-based RP in NSWR history, of which I've personally participated in many. I'm actually personally insulted considering all the time I've ever spent writing them. I don't ask that you consider them particularly well written and I'm always open to constructive criticism but here you're just being snide.
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Jun 15 2009, 09:22 PM
Because it usually is.

And The Dominion and CE are not the same thing. The Dominion's power is not affected by what happens to an ally.
The Dominion's power wouldn't be affected, no.

CE's power, however, is affected. So, either the border must be porous as anarchy sets in, or the Dominion must occupy it- making the Dominion and CE the same thing. Indeed, this would use up more Dominion resources, thus limiting its power.

So, either CE ceases existing, or the Dominion must prop it up with its own power. Either way, the region is to be much more open than you make it out to be currently...
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Ulgania
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It might be worth considering to start drawing down CE influence. A Roman counter-attack might even be considered. For the sake of RP, I would suggest making the draw down gradual, just because it will work out easier for the region than suddenly saying 'no, it's no longer there'. Even though I never RPed with CE I've still seen the significance of the CE as a political entity, so a gradual, albeit quickly moved into draw down of power should occur with respect to all sides.
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I thought that it was already generally agreed upon that CE's nation was going to be chopped up slowly. Then again I havent been paying attention to this very much so I may be wrong, in which case discount this.
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Ulgania
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Yeah, slowly. The idea is still up in the air. But given the recent issues with it I think moving things along a little faster is a better idea.
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Kasnyia
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All of these issues will be addressed. Just not this very second. You want answers of a more specific nature. PM me or RD, whom I have just divulged the entire plan to.
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Ulgania
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Moving on then...

I'd like to make Neo-Paradise a major priority. NRE's leading the Confederacy along, but given the situation an eventual multi-front war in the Americas I feel the best route is:

-consolidate Central America
-The Confederacy (et al) moves northward
-Terrel Fen (et al) moves southward

I can lead a charge against Neo-Paradise, and bring a resource conflict to South America. And considering my affinity for enormous explosions ( :lol: ) I think another fight for the Zanzibar's counterpart would be an eventual necessity. Just looking ahead though. I'm mostly focused on the refinery, and the colony as a whole
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Kasnyia
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Sounds good. I'll create some importance and background for that refinery. Has to be important and big so it can go down big, no? :D
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Ulgania
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I have plans for that petroleum, so nothing irrevocable? :lol: Damaged infrastructure is fine though
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Kasnyia
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Quote:
 
IKS Endloss- Testbed for all Sb Type I superbattleship configurations, new parts testing, engine testing, and simulation testing. Class-prototype. Unarmed unless for testing. (Severely damaged after attempted sabotage, refitted by the Dominion as DNS Eckner. Scuttled by Chiron Resistance forces while enroute from Chirondom to Australia)

--Sb Type I--

IKS Markgraf- Stationed with the Imperial Home Fleet. (currently stationed off the coast of Pacifica)
IKS Vizegraf- Stationed with the Imperial Home Fleet. (currently located off the coast of Pacifica)
IKS Pfalzgraf- Stationed with the Imperial Ziyer Fleet. (sunk in the Mediterranean campaign against the Dominion)
IKS Gigant- Stationed with the Imperial Pacifica Fleet.
IKS Elefant- Stationed with the Imperial Hudson Bay Fleet.
IKS Nashorn- Stationed with the Imperial Pacifica Fleet. (sunk in action during the Domination incident)
IKS Beschutzer- Stationed with the Imperial Greenland Fleet.
IKS Soldat- Stationed with the Imperial Scandanavian Fleet.
IKS Vorhut- Stationed with the Twilight Fleet. (currently located off the coast of Pacifica)
IKS Bahen- Stationed with the Imperial Garzburgh Fleet. (currently located off the coast of Pacifica)
IKS Varbach- Stationed with the Imperial Garzburgh Fleet. (currently stationed off the coast of the Netherlands)
IKS Orssich- Stationed at Pearl Harbor with the Kasnyian JAUST Peacekeeper fleet. (currently stationed in secret at Vanautu)
IKS Prinz Karl Xavier XIV- Stationed with the Imperial Pacifica Fleet.
IKS Zorlin- Stationed with the Imperial Netherlands Fleet.
IKS Vjerrs- Stationed with the Imperial Australia Fleet. (sunk during the Battle of the East Pacific)

Sorry, I just wanted to post that here for my own purposes, so I won't have to go searching for the superbattleship thread everytime I need to remind myself or update the statuses of my vessels.
Edited by Kasnyia, Apr 26 2011, 11:04 PM.
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Ulgania
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To be brief, I'd like Africa to get moving. I can start a counter-attack at any point to try and drive the Dominion out of my lands/Sennar, and out of Africa altogether.
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Kasnyia
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Actually I wanted to talk about that. With TC gone, my plans for Africa went with him. So I'm up for any suggestion. That said, I'd like to wait until the Med is liberated before we begin in earnest. Do go ahead and start preparing though Ulgania, since you are literally the only power in Africa left thats independant and not neutral. I'll probably ask NRE if he wants involvement, but I don't want to overload the poor guy.

Not really sure though if I want to do anything specific with Africa. Only three Dominion armies and three reserve armies are located here, so its not like I can wage an uber-fight like in Europe or Asia.
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Ulgania
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I was considering a rout of the army attacking Ulgania Proper, pushing it back to South Ziyer. It is a mobile army, as you said.

And since I still control Morrocon as an entity (CNNP hasn't said otherwise, that is), my northern advance could be rerouted to further attack Sennar.

Understandably the attack on Europe still needs to move, so pressure on Sennar would have to wait. I could still resurface an attack on South Ziyer.
Edited by Ulgania, Jun 19 2009, 01:03 PM.
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Kasnyia
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Yeah, go for the attack on South Ziyer. Sounds good.
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