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| How sick of the Dominion are you? | |
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| Topic Started: May 8 2009, 12:36 PM (180 Views) | |
| New Harumf | May 8 2009, 12:36 PM Post #1 |
Bloodthirsty Unicorn
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Just curious if I am alone here??
Edited by New Harumf, May 8 2009, 12:41 PM.
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| Ulgania | May 8 2009, 12:55 PM Post #2 |
A better Zarathustra has never rode a horse
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I'll just say I am. My general overtures are probably known by now |
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| Assassin | May 8 2009, 01:50 PM Post #3 |
Field Marshal
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I've been extremely sick of it. I was hoping that it would be gone by the time of my return. However, its not so I'm pulling AA out of it, and will likely end up assisting those who want it destroyed. |
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| Porcu | May 8 2009, 03:48 PM Post #4 |
"Work is the curse of the drinking classes."
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I don't think I've been around long enough to really say :P I am looking forward to it's collapse and I can say that I will wait for the time to come... |
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| Eleytheria-Duo | May 8 2009, 07:36 PM Post #5 |
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I have to admit, I can't stand it. I'm sick of hearing about it. Its like a giant squid in your bedroom trying to suck you out of bed by your big fat toe. That said, I will cooperate with Kas to end it, I don't really see any any other logical choice. Him and I aren't even close to being the best of co-workers, as everyone can attest to; My first reason for leaving the forums was a lack of common ground, which lead to one thing after the other. We squabble regularly, and many a time meet points of impasse. Gone are the days where I am his 'right hand man,' and 'winger.' Gone are the days when we plotted to take over the world and lead/co-lead side by side. Gone are the days that we would sit for an hour planning our next move with military precision. And gone are the days where I will ever participate in something like this again. However, the days of respect are certainly not gone. I have respect for a lot of people, even if they don't for me-- for any reason. I understand where Kas is coming from, he wants to let his baby die in peace, so to speak. While most of us want to just see it shot out of the sky, which is also understandable. The Dominion line first started kicking off nearly a year and a half now, and for a year it has reigned with unquestionable supremacy. Over three quarters of the world is technically occupied, and nobody can do anything without fear of utter annihilation. Most of us have to realize Kas is genuinely cutting his Dominion plot line much shorter than he initially planned. Trust me, I've been over it a million times when I was winging with him back in mid 08. He's made a lot of radical changes to accommodate us. We can at least thank him for that. But Kas also has to understand that this has gone completely out of control. Even for our off-months, our activity has reached record lows, RP'ing nearly died completely. And what few are going on, are either related directly to the Dominion or to the collapse of the Dominion. For the sake of keeping the forums alive, the dominion must go to open new avenues for people to explore. That's why I have to say this, with no offense intended to either side; We need to stop whining like a bunch of little bitches and help Kas get this over with as soon as possible, pride or disgust be damned for a minute, think about this! If you can't work with him to help speed the Dominions collapse on schedule, then in my eyes your just as responsible for this mess as he is. And Kas: If you can't end the Dominion on schedule, even with our help, then I think its time we put the Dominion behind us quietly, and any RP's done about it completed in past tense. We're supposed to be a community, goddammit. Lets act like it, band together and get this shit over with, properly! And no excuses, I came back to see this place revived, and I'll be damned to see everyone, many a good RP'er, reduced to nothing but sniveling crying children. “The ultimate measure of an individual is not where they stand in moments of comfort and convenience, but where they stand in times of challenge and controversy.” Lets do this together; Or we'll be forced to watch this place continue to suffer, divided. Now that I have gotten my passion speech out of the way, where the hell are you standing on this issue? With me, or against? Because right now your either a friend or an enemy. Period. |
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| Tristan da Cunha | May 8 2009, 08:05 PM Post #6 |
Science and Industry
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I'm not the biggest fan of the ongoing Dominion RP and I question some of Kas' methods but I have to admire his perseverence. It's an uncanny type of perseverence. RP wise I'm a fickle piece of crap, so I stand in awe of his perseverence, even if I don't exactly stand in awe of the *enormous time- and life-spirit-sucking black hole* aspect of the Dominion RP (or any variation of massive uber-epic world war RP). Your post inspired me E-D. When I finish my exam for school next week I'll enlist in this effort to finish the Dominion RP ahead of schedule. I want to see the NS1 community revived and restored to its original intent but frankly this Dominion albatross around our neck needs to be dealt with first, so I'll be aiming to pound out some tedious "700 word essay" type RP posts to try to help it along. But I don't think it's a "friend or enemy" scenario E-D. I don't think anyone is obliged to participate. Participate if you have the time or interest. I think I do, though there's no logical reason to think less of anyone who doesn't participate. My personal goal will be to chip in to restore the NS1 system to its original intent and if that to me means furiously outputting Dominion RPs for a couple weeks or month then I'll try my best. Other people might choose to participate or not participate, due to any variety of motivations. No big deal. (excepting the part about the enormous amount of writing) |
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| Assassin | May 8 2009, 08:08 PM Post #7 |
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I've been saying it for over a year. If anyone wants some AA lovin to help move this along, I'm game. I'm MORE than willing to burn the Dominion to the ground, sweep it under the rug, and forget about it. |
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| Kasnyia | May 8 2009, 08:23 PM Post #8 |
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ED- When have I ever accused you of being a right hand man? Those were always others assumptions. I thought that was made clear long ago? :huh: Anyway, might as well respond to this thread. I formed the Dominion RP for several reasons. First, since I came here it was always my dream to launch a successful world war, after seeing all the other attempts fail like so many lead balloons. And for the most part, even in its hurried stage, I think I have been successful. Another reason was out of spite. I will not go into this except for privately, and even then only those I know I can trust, since I'd rather not have the rumor mill start up again. Some might venture a guess about what it is, but one will recieve no confirmation from me. Finally, this RP was always meant to be my swan song on these forums. Once this RP is over, my (as Nor put it once) Ivory Tower plots will end for good, or at least nothing like it used to be, even before the likes of JAUST. And as my college work intensifies, I may not even stay on these forums as much as I once did. As such, I wanted to go out with a bang, and in the process provide an RP everyone could like and get into. I realize that the uber-strength and over-occupation has harried many people in regards to RPing. I do. But my theory on this was that the bigger they are, the harder they fall, and the Dominion, if my plans even go slightly right, will have a most spectacular collapse that will provide excuses for RPs for RL months to come with the recovery of the various nations and what have you. I realize that my absence due to school work ran down the momentum far too quickly and thus sent everything into a standstill. I apolgize for that as well as for the unforseen centralization. My orginal intentions were for a cadre of us to decide everything. Then some members of the cadre dropped off the face of the planet or...other things. And so in order to keep this RP alive before it died, I took full control. I thought I could handle it. I was wrong. This RP has been a monkey's paw for me. Some of my friends are now my enemies. Some of my enemies now have more ammo against me. My reputation is shot to hell and there are many who would rather see this RP disappear. I cannot do that. I operate my RPs as best to the ability I can, for the sake of my own history, which if anyone looked into, does not require (much) fudging of time/space. Or of plot holes. To drop THIS RP would throw me back one and a half years. I cannot do that. At the same time, this monkey's paw has also shown me my true friends and allies, as well as those who wanted a good story, who could appreciate a good story. It also helped me as a writer both here and in RL. I still beam upon remembering that Nag of all people liked my Escape from Kasnyia story, and the return of Gassel. Starting today, the RP is kicking back up. I have time now, I have a revised plan now. The greatest glory of this RP is yet to come. Many nations will be ruined utterly, still others will be heroes. And some will go out to pasture and remain quiet for the rest of time. My goal and my promise remains the same to you all, to give you an epic worth rereading. To give you an era that, while mirred in OOC drama, IC was one of the greatest periods in this history. Can I do it? Some believe not. Some aren't even willing to let me try. But will I try? Damned right I will. The end of the Dominion is nigh. Help me to help you all enjoy the ride. That is all I ask. |
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| Eleytheria-Duo | May 8 2009, 08:32 PM Post #9 |
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I understand what you are saying, TC. Really, I do. I never meant to sound as if anyone refusing to participate is an enemy. I am saying people who refuse to participate because they merely disgust the Dominion are. They want to RP and have fun, yes, but if they aren't willing to get their hands a little dirty first, and put a little work in achieving that said goal, then if you ask me they are unworthy of what it is they desire. And from my point of view, unworthy of my respect until they prove otherwise. My respect for others may not amount to much, but I am tired of people polarizing an issue that can be resolved if we are just willing to suck up our pains a little bit longer. So much hard work is being wasted due to the lack of a little more. In the time span of the Dominion, we suffered its ills for over A YEAR AND A HALF. We only have at most TWO MORE MONTHS AT MOST. And now we're complaining about all of that wasted time and it threatens to result in more time wasted. The Friend or Enemy has nothing to do with if you have the time to participate or not, it has to do with those who have intent to RP uniting our efforts to toppling this monster, and without bitching about it. There'll be all the time in the world to bitch about it after we're done. Hell, bitch all night and day if you want, but FINISH THE DAMN JOB FIRST. And like I said, those who aren't willing to get a little messy to wrap this up are only prolonging it at their own expense. And if Kas cannot end it on schedule, even with our assistance, then we should do a time leap to a post-dominion era and the collapse can be ironed out in the past tense. Its not a difficult thing to ask, its only difficult to put our differences of opinion aside for one hour per day. If this is too big of an issue for people like us to resolve, all supposedly educated and rational, to find common ground on, then all I can say is maybe my returning was a grave mistake that I'll regret, not appreciate. |
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| Tristan da Cunha | May 8 2009, 08:36 PM Post #10 |
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Hey, I've never claimed to be rational myself. And I've always strongly suspected I've been miseducated :lol: Anyways I'm resolving to play a more active role with the Dominion RP. If necessary I'll even RP some factions on the Dominion side. |
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| Assassin | May 8 2009, 08:46 PM Post #11 |
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Funny, as I always considered you one of the more educated members TC. Though reading your RP's felt like reading a book. I'm a pop-up book kind of guy. MORE PICTURES PLOX |
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| Tristan da Cunha | May 8 2009, 08:52 PM Post #12 |
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I may be "formally educated" but I wonder if I'll ever be amenable to reason :( :lol: |
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| Eleytheria-Duo | May 8 2009, 09:48 PM Post #13 |
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I never meant to use 'right hand man' in a particularly negative light. Technically you were such during the JAUST era, we all knew I was leading the charges in regards to it. And same for the Dominion, we all knew you were spearheading the advance, and I was just winging it. I probably still would be winging it, and trying to advocate the need to stay the course. In a way, I still am. But not for the same reasons... Not anymore. I am not your enemy, Kas. I don't see you as an enemy. But I don't see you as a friend anymore, either. You made me question that. I want to believe everything was part of bad communication, just a big misunderstanding... Its hard for me to accept that, looking back on it. Back then, you had helped me propel JAUST into being the power I never dreamt it would become, it was an achievement. And when it eventually died, I knew it was time to move on, I was eager to help you start the dominion, eager to BE your right hand man, even if we didn't use that title at the time. I had invested much into the Dominion to prove how eager I was, and to make it for the stronger, all of my nations assets. But just because a few things differed form the way you preferred them, you apparently felt as if I was working against it. I thought that you would see past all of that and realize just how hard I tried to bolster its ranks. But instead ... you baited me, you tried to 'catch me in the act,' to have me warned, to publicly humiliate me in front of the forms, and to practically brand me a rat. I'm no damn rat, and it insults me to think you could have ever believed otherwise. You hurt me, Kas. You burned me bad. You may never have intended to, but you did. To think, after all you've done for me, and all I've tried to do for you, that you would believe I would actually try to go behind your back to derail your plans and humiliate me was unthinkable to me, incomprehensible. It was like some faceless coward plunging a dagger straight into my chest. Over something so seemingly petty, you jeopardized our friendship... That is why I can no longer support the Dominion... You want to know what your legacy will be? I can give you a comparison; The Holy League died in glory, it was the longest lasting alliance in history, and the most wide impacting. JAUST died with controversy, seeing as how I was ultimately responsible for hurting CE and driving him away, and I regret it every day since. But the Dominion, it will die in controversy, for all the people that were hurt in the process of its rise and fall. Its not just us, Kas. You had a lot to do with it as well. And to assume otherwise is arrogance, not logic or us 'out to get you.' I'm trying here, I am. I'm trying to see these forums revived to what they used to be about, I'm trying to believe there was a lot of miscommunication in the process of all of this. And I'm trying hard to salvage what is left of our friendship. Like I said, I want to believe there was just miscommunication, bad judgment on everyone's part, not just yours. Don't make me change my mind. |
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| Kasnyia | May 8 2009, 10:05 PM Post #14 |
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Your taking this out of proportion. I'll just put that out there. Both in what I was asking you and for all you just told me. All I asked was for clarification on a point and you make that long post as though I'm attacking you. There is nothing in my statement that shows me attacking you or somehow me forcing you to change policy. I wasn't asking about the friendship, which never changed from my end so you know, since the falling out was a miscommunication and always will be because of a miscommunication. With that in mind, where to go from there is up to you. All you are accusing me of also is not true. But if you wish to run with it and dislike me, that is fine. I would try and convince you otherwise, but I'd only be scoffed at in the end, so I won't. As for problems, if you read my many statements on this matter, I owned up to the mistakes I made, not shot them on everyone else. All I did was make sure everyone else take their hits too, because I'm rather sick of everyone leading a charge against me as though I'm some sort of devil. |
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| Eleytheria-Duo | May 8 2009, 10:11 PM Post #15 |
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Blatantly false, and I have Nag, and a few PM's you sent to him to back me. And AA to testify to it. What the fuck did your post just say about your damn pride and paranoia, Kas? Look in the mirror for Christs sakes. :( |
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| Kasnyia | May 8 2009, 10:13 PM Post #16 |
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AA is unreliable in this case, ED. And considering that whole thing came up in a miscommunication, there were faults of your own that would force me to make whatever statements I did. Miscommunication goes both ways. I say one thing you say another, it spirals and escalates. Do mind your language too, so that this doesn't get heated. It doesn't need to be. Further, I'm not being arrogant. I'm merely saying it was all a mistake. But as I said, I won't waste time trying to convince you of my own innocence. I can already hear your scoffs. Edited by Kasnyia, May 8 2009, 10:14 PM.
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| Ulgania | May 8 2009, 10:14 PM Post #17 |
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For what it's worth, if I've said anything against you, I haven't meant it as an attack on your character. It's been my own ambition to be relevant in this whole scheme that has shot me in the foot, and ultimately sidelined in the theater. That said, I know a lot of people feel the same. However, that's already been covered. I'm just going to start moving on, and take another stab at my own personal enormous RP like I did last summer. My only goal is to set up something that a lot of people can get behind. Last summer, CNNP, Al Qalaa, Uka, NRE, and myself had something good going with a massive RP that, in retrospect revived Africa. I plan to revive Africa again, and push it out of the mediocritized end of the RP spectrum here again... it's only the general hindrances that are now common all over the world that are the problem Edited by Ulgania, May 8 2009, 10:16 PM.
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| Eleytheria-Duo | May 8 2009, 11:05 PM Post #18 |
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Fair enough... There's a lot of blame to go around in regards to the dominion, and I am responsible as well. As is AA. As is Nag. As is Scy. As is every other "core state" who participated in its founding. To redirect: I would like to stress what I said before, we need to work together to end this. We're not going to get anywhere if we continue to bicker and squabble. For the sake of the forums, everyone, put your differences and personal inconveniences aside long enough for us to turn the next page. We owe each other that. |
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| Kasnyia | May 9 2009, 12:27 AM Post #19 |
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Already on it. The southern invasion kicked it off. (by the way NRE, if you're reading this, I'll get a post in tomorrow, currently packing bags for home right now) |
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| Menhad | May 9 2009, 10:37 AM Post #20 |
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Well all I can say is that since I'm supposed to leave in August, I wanted Menhad to go out with a bang |
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| Telosan | May 9 2009, 10:52 AM Post #21 |
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I think the Dominion is interesting, but highly annoying as the threads to progress is fizzle out, leaving us hanging. I'm ready to move it along whenever. My nation is on both sides of the conflict though. Telosan Africa and Asia have sided with the Dominion to stay afloat in the rising tide. Telosan Europe and America haven't said a thing about the Dominion, though the American one has had close contact via Espanora. If it keeps going, I'm sure I'm going to end up with a civil war, half with Dominion (willingly or not) and half against. I do want to see an epic battle at the end that kicks the Dominion back on its heels. |
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| Kasnyia | May 9 2009, 09:12 PM Post #22 |
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OOC- Wait your European ones never joined? Ah...shit. Uh.... *whistles as he tries to sneak away* Kinda been using it as an airbase for raids on the Baltic. If you don't want it, consider it retconned. If you don't mind, then cool beans. :unsure: |
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| Telosan | May 9 2009, 09:41 PM Post #23 |
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That would be my confusion over the blockade a while ago. ^^ And...you've been using it as a base? I don't even know what's going on in my own country. Ah, go ahead. Kasnyia and Dominion are polar oposites so it's likely the ones that are safe from Dominion influence could ally with the anti-dominion. |
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| Kasnyia | May 9 2009, 11:02 PM Post #24 |
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Maybe the European Telosantis can switch to anti-Dominion forces once the shit hits the fan...or something. |
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| Telosan | May 9 2009, 11:07 PM Post #25 |
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They're neutral thus far. Though I don't think they're fond of Kasnyia for the unwarranted blockade... :gnarkgnark: Nah, forget it happened. I was so unclear as to my nation's inner workings that I'm surprised that I remembered it. |
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