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Reconquest OOC; Split
Topic Started: Feb 18 2009, 07:08 PM (400 Views)
Tristan da Cunha
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OOC: Nice post. I'm getting an overload of epic with you Kas :lol:
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Sedulius
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OOC: No, I'm sorry Kas. It's my fault for not getting the ball rolling sooner.

But this get's the ball rolling, so I guess I'll PM you soon about counterstrategy. So, thanks.
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Ulgania
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OOC: From everything I've read there was supposed to be a surprise attack coming from Rome. Hell, I don't even know who's RPing Rome. Can someone send me a PM explaining the situation before I look more foolish?
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Sedulius
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OOC: I don't believe the entire situation is ironed out. I do not know if I have sole control over the operations of Rome at this point, but I need not have that. I will still take control of my Syrian forces at the very least.
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OOC- It was always my intention to launch a surprise attack against North Africa, which I have recieved permission for via RD. Said surprise attack obviously includes Roman holdings within the Mediterranean as they would be enroute to North Africa, and the Levant will be attacked as well, as that was the whole reason John convinced Gassel to get the Caesar involved. Indeed, the only part of the Roman territories not attacked in the initial invasion would be their holdings in Spain.

This will take a few posts of setting up to do, so there is no reason to rush. We can iron out the details.

EDIT-

And thanks, TC. ^^
Edited by Kasnyia, Feb 18 2009, 08:16 PM.
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Sedulius
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Feb 18 2009, 08:15 PM
OOC- It was always my intention to launch a surprise attack against North Africa, which I have recieved permission for via RD. Said surprise attack obviously includes Roman holdings within the Mediterranean as they would be enroute to North Africa, and the Levant will be attacked as well, as that was the whole reason John convinced Gassel to get the Caesar involved. Indeed, the only part of the Roman territories not attacked in the initial invasion would be their holdings in Spain.

This will take a few posts of setting up to do, so there is no reason to rush. We can iron out the details.

EDIT-

And thanks, TC. ^^
OOC: Okay, very good. PMed you my ideas, but this post cleared up any confusion on your plan.
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OOC- Excellent.

Any mod, could we have a split for OOC? I have a feeling it will be necessary as the thread goes along.
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OOC:

Split, and nice post. And sorry I haven't been much help with all this.
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Ulgania
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Feb 18 2009, 08:15 PM
OOC- It was always my intention to launch a surprise attack against North Africa, which I have recieved permission for via RD. Said surprise attack obviously includes Roman holdings within the Mediterranean as they would be enroute to North Africa, and the Levant will be attacked as well, as that was the whole reason John convinced Gassel to get the Caesar involved. Indeed, the only part of the Roman territories not attacked in the initial invasion would be their holdings in Spain.

This will take a few posts of setting up to do, so there is no reason to rush. We can iron out the details.

EDIT-

And thanks, TC. ^^
I'm officially not handling this as a surprise attack. Too many large scale logistical operations would have to have occurred right under my nose, and frankly it doesn't matter how good a military is... this many surprise attacks shouldn't be possible. Every government left would be paying way too much attention to be caught unawares at this point. I love the post, don't get me wrong, but it's just too much.

On that note, anything I can do to bring the death of a thousand scratches to the Dominion at this point, I'm willing to do :lol:

EDIT: Sorry if this came out as me being mad. The fact of the matter is I feel cheated in this entire conflict thus far and it makes RPing a drag. But whatever.
Edited by Ulgania, Feb 18 2009, 11:22 PM.
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In Africa, my naval forces are at the Suez Canal. If I win a victory there I can pass through to the Mediterranean and add support there.
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Kasnyia
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Ulgania
Feb 18 2009, 11:17 PM
Kasnyia
Feb 18 2009, 08:15 PM
OOC- It was always my intention to launch a surprise attack against North Africa, which I have recieved permission for via RD. Said surprise attack obviously includes Roman holdings within the Mediterranean as they would be enroute to North Africa, and the Levant will be attacked as well, as that was the whole reason John convinced Gassel to get the Caesar involved. Indeed, the only part of the Roman territories not attacked in the initial invasion would be their holdings in Spain.

This will take a few posts of setting up to do, so there is no reason to rush. We can iron out the details.

EDIT-

And thanks, TC. ^^
I'm officially not handling this as a surprise attack. Too many large scale logistical operations would have to have occurred right under my nose, and frankly it doesn't matter how good a military is... this many surprise attacks shouldn't be possible. Every government left would be paying way too much attention to be caught unawares at this point. I love the post, don't get me wrong, but it's just too much.

On that note, anything I can do to bring the death of a thousand scratches to the Dominion at this point, I'm willing to do :lol:

EDIT: Sorry if this came out as me being mad. The fact of the matter is I feel cheated in this entire conflict thus far and it makes RPing a drag. But whatever.
And why would Ulgania, which is facing tremendous pressure from the Dominion on both of its territories, even be paying attention to Catholic Europe? THAT is where the surprise attack is coming from. The Dominion is manouvering its armies just to assist.

And if we're gonna go by realism, by all accounts, Ulgania should have fallen by now. It hasn't because of plot purposes, but the "unfairness" you speak of is purposeful, as this is meant to be world domination and in order for such a threat to be at all valid, it has to get close to reaching that end. As such, not everyone can save the day every time. At least not yet. This is a story first and foremost, not a documentary, Ulgania.

In short, I do suggest you do consider it a surprise attack. Also, if you wish to not be in such a "drag", try PMing me so we can figure out something fun for you to do, but Africa isn't going to be where you find it.

And before anyone bitches at me, do also note that I have taken into account the sacrifice and frustration of all players into account. Those who can stick around and get their fun in otherways other than heroic moments on the battlefield or some such will be rewarded in the end. After all, playing the bad guy, everyone knows what my fate is gonna be at the end. But from point A to point B, I gotta keep it interesting, y'all gotta earn your victories, and not always by muscle.

/end rant that has built up over the last few weeks
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Sedulius
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Feb 19 2009, 07:06 AM
In Africa, my naval forces are at the Suez Canal. If I win a victory there I can pass through to the Mediterranean and add support there.
Then you won't win there. It wouldn't be so simple to take the Suez Canal from the Roman Empire. If anything, you'll be trapped.
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Kasnyia
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Three fleets (Dominion, Morroconian, Telosanti) versus four fleets (Menhadien remnants, Ulganian, Roman Egyptian Fleet, Paradisian remnants)...

It will be a hell of a fight, but I agree, the Suez and the Red Sea as a whole with (down the road) the exception of the Paradisian coastline, will be under anti-Dominion control.
Edited by Kasnyia, Feb 19 2009, 01:34 PM.
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Telosan
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If I win at Suez, I wouldn't have the forces to capture it. I'd likely just pass through and be done with it.
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Kasnyia
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The key word is "If". I'd suggest PMing the players controlling the enemy fleets to work that out.....
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Sedulius
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I'm just pointing out that it's impossible to take the Suez canal without land forces. The only reason the Dominion got use out of it was that it was given permission. And on that, it would be hard enough to take it with land forces.
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Kasnyia
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Telosan is basically saying he wants to attempt a breakout into the Med, so I don't think capturing the Suez is in the cards for him anyway.
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Ulgania
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It might serve in my interest to reroute my entire North African force to the canal. I'm going to have some tactical shifts to do anyway so that could be a place of interest.
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In a tactical sense, I wouldn't even want to take the Suez canal. I'd be at the centerpoint, in perfect position to be attacked from every angle. It'd be too hard to defend.

Getting through the canal was the plan.
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I will post when I have time, probably the weekend. LOTS of schoolwork just now.
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