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Vampires vs Werewolves (Town-Win); An NSWR "Mafia" Game
Topic Started: Jan 26 2009, 04:05 PM (4,902 Views)
Tristan da Cunha
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Unvote: Allesandra

I'm still not convinced RD is innocent. He's the only person from the "silent" column who has gone on a posting spree, suggesting that he is trying lull the town into thinking he's harmless.
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Tristan da Cunha
Jan 28 2009, 11:10 PM
Romanus Diogenes
Jan 28 2009, 07:56 PM
But for some reason, I do still believe you are hunting mafia. It might be a valid intuition, or it might be a flawed attempt to compensate for lynching you when you were a townie last game.
I went over your explanatory post again. I just want you to know that I'm a reckless, reckless bastard and I don't feel the need to recompense you all of your previous night kills, and I won't hesitate to night-kill you as the vigilante (assuming I don't get killed first).

So don't feel held back from lodging an accusation against me. :lol:

I find it very curious that RD was relatively silent previously, but has made many detailed postings after people called him out for being "too quiet". I feel this is evidence that RD is cult, and is trying to remove suspicion from himself. What say you all??
Well, I still don't think I'll make an accusation against you. You oughtn't night kill me though.

Your argument is entirely irrational for the following reasons:

1) If I were town, I would also try to deflect attention from myself, especially if I thought I were useful to the town. Hence, the predicted behavior for the control is the same as the behavior you have observed. From an experimental pov, your claim is nonsense.

2) I started responding to posts when I was done with homework, eating dinner, and watching DVDs for today. Its fairly normal to have more time in the evening than during the day. Especially because I don't check this site during classes.

3) Strategic thinking has finally begun. I actually have something to interact with, while previously it was just you flip-flopping your votes, and various uninteresting and unsupported claims by you and other people.

4) As I mentioned earlier, I'm unlikely to have time to devote to this game tomorrow, at least not until late at night. So I won't have time to get on much before the day ends unless I do it now.


EDIT: Note that TC pegged me in the beginning after an entirely harmless statement without any real reason. He has stuck to me consistently, continually inventing new reasons to suspect me. If I'm too quiet, that is suspicious. If I'm too loud, that is suspicious...
Edited by Rhadamanthus, Jan 28 2009, 11:24 PM.
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Allesandra
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...Am I dead yet?
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Telosan-His lone few posts of meaning came after the call-out, and seemed geared on old-game strategy (i.e. flip flopping=scum)
RD-Big pick up in posting since the call-out, took a lot of convincing to go with the plan...
Menhad-MIA
Huesca-MIA
Allesandra-MIA
Quaon-Fierce, substance lacking defense

Above about right??? Missing anyone who is hiding?

For now....
Unvote: Allesandra
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Allesandra
Jan 28 2009, 11:29 PM
...Am I dead yet?
I think you were at 5 (needing 6?)... Now at 3? That is off the top of my head though.
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Wait...why am I MIA? I am participating in discussion (albeit infrequently due to how much my life sucks in the past three days) and doing so much more than Menhad or Quaon.
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flumes
Jan 28 2009, 11:30 PM
Telosan-His lone few posts of meaning came after the call-out, and seemed geared on old-game strategy (i.e. flip flopping=scum)
RD-Big pick up in posting since the call-out, took a lot of convincing to go with the plan...
Menhad-MIA
Huesca-MIA
Allesandra-MIA
Quaon-Fierce, substance lacking defense

Above about right??? Missing anyone who is hiding?

For now....
Unvote: Allesandra
Thanks for the summary Flumes. I'll go with Quaon. You are right that his defenses are fierce, and they didn't seem to touch the game at all. That strikes me as odd behavior. So I'll put my vote down on him.

VOTE: QUAON
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Allesandra
Jan 28 2009, 11:32 PM
Wait...why am I MIA? I am participating in discussion (albeit infrequently due to how much my life sucks in the past three days) and doing so much more than Menhad or Quaon.
True...

I unvoted you because I'm unsure now... But I'm still suspicious...
I'd go deeper, but I need some sleep... It's 11:30, and I have an 8-10 (philosophy :dry: ) and a 10-12 (hippy poly sci, EXAM too)..
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Tristan da Cunha
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Allesandra
Jan 28 2009, 11:29 PM
...Am I dead yet?
Not yet. Have you any last words to say for yourself?

RD: Your point #1 is unacceptable because there are many townies who actively drew attention to themselves by posting speculations.

Also, your successive sequence of extreme quietness and extreme loudness are extremely suspicious, since it's out of character for you, I believe.

Finally, your vote for Quaon is suspicious, because you're hesitant to bandwagon against Allesandra but you feel much less inhibited to start a bandwagon yourself. Q has been cranky but the evidence against him is just as weak as if not weaker than the evidence against Allesandra. This first-day lynch is critical but you seem to be very casual about lynching Q.

Voting to keep pressure on Allesandra and protect myself from a sudden bandwagon-

Vote: Allesandra

Edited by Tristan da Cunha, Jan 28 2009, 11:43 PM.
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Rhadamanthus
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Umm.. even your attention was originally drawn to me by my posting, not by my silence. You only changed your story when it became convenient. Loudness and quietness reflected the circumstances of my day; that is enough. I'm not going to post on that subject again, since I've said all there is to say on it.

Finally, I think I'm the only vote on Quaon now. That isn't starting a bandwagon. How can it be a bandwagon if I'm the only vote? Of course, if I had voted for Allesandra, you would have called me out for bandwagoning.

But really, what the hell is up with you? You've unvoted and revoted for Allesandra in the space of less than half an hour. You're going to say I'm being casual about my vote, when I've spent the entire day first focusing on observation, and then engaging in dicussion before coming to one vote, whereas you vote, unvote, revote, and change your vote at the drop of a hat? You have been the most thoroughly casual voter in this whole thread.
Edited by Rhadamanthus, Jan 28 2009, 11:50 PM.
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Tristan da Cunha
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Jan 28 2009, 09:13 PM
Vote: Raf

He was trying oh so very hard to pin it on TC, with a vigor I've never seen.

Meh.

This is very suspicious from Huesca. Due to the call-out, Huesca's made a relatively harmless post, just so that he has a post in to remove suspicion from himself. However Huesca's careful avoidance of contact with the other participants marks him as the cult leader concerned for surviving the first critical day.
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Jan 28 2009, 11:50 PM
Umm.. even your attention was originally drawn to me by my posting, not by my silence. You only changed your story when it became convenient. Loudness and quietness reflected the circumstances of my day; that is enough. I'm not going to post on that subject again, since I've said all there is to say on it.

Finally, I think I'm the only vote on Quaon now. That isn't starting a bandwagon. How can it be a bandwagon if I'm the only vote? Of course, if I had voted for Allesandra, you would have called me out for bandwagoning.

But really, what the hell is up with you? You've unvoted and revoted for Allesandra in the space of less than half an hour. You're going to say I'm being casual about my vote, when I've spent the entire day first focusing on observation, and then engaging in dicussion before coming to one vote, whereas you vote, unvote, revote, and change your vote at the drop of a hat? You have been the most thoroughly casual voter in this whole thread.
Point taken. :lol:

But you are still very problematic.
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Rhadamanthus
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That's fine; the feeling is mutual. And with that, I'll say my good nights.
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Current Vote Tally

Allesandra - 4 (Paradise, Menhad, NH, TC)
TC - 3 (Telosan, Raf, lebowski)
flumes - 1 (Quaon)
Paradise - 1 (Allesandra)
Rafzakael - 1 (Huesca)
Quaon - 1 (RD)

(7 votes are needed to lynch)
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Jan 28 2009, 07:56 PM
Either way, TC, you must be a graduate of the "Telosan School of Looking Like Scum" because you look very scummy. But for some reason, I do still believe you are hunting mafia. It might be a valid intuition, or it might be a flawed attempt to compensate for lynching you when you were a townie last game.
RD has it here. However, please note that in this game, we have two different varieties of scum. Assuming TC is, say, a vampire, it is in his best interest to remove the other cult from existence ASAP.
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I have recently discovered MMOs.

Leave me be.

I'll maintain my vote.

Lynch me if you want, I'm just a plain townie anyway. No powers or nothing. Waste of lynch, especially since you won't really see who gets killed off (they'll just be converted quietly), or else they'd be the primary target for town.
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Same here.

*plays with scalpels quietly in a corner*
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Jan 29 2009, 12:08 PM
I have recently discovered MMOs.

Leave me be.

I'll maintain my vote.

Lynch me if you want, I'm just a plain townie anyway. No powers or nothing. Waste of lynch, especially since you won't really see who gets killed off (they'll just be converted quietly), or else they'd be the primary target for town.
Posts like this tick me off.
:dry:

That said, I'm going back to where I started... Still unsure
Vote: Quaon
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Allesandra
Jan 29 2009, 12:42 PM
Same here.

*plays with scalpels quietly in a corner*
:dry:

Again... Other games coming out as a plain townie didn't matter... This one it does! I thinks one of you two are getting a vote tomorrow... Maybe the villigante can help us out.
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Tristan da Cunha
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I'll go with Quaon.

Unvote: Allesandra
Vote: Quaon

I need someone to withdraw his vote from me! I'm of critical importance to the town.
Edited by Tristan da Cunha, Jan 29 2009, 01:43 PM.
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Current Vote Tally

TC - 3 (Telosan, Rafzakael, lebowski)
Allesandra - 3 (Paradise, Menhad, NH)
Quaon - 3 (RD, flumes, TC)
flumes - 1 (Quaon)
Rafzakael - 1 (Huesca)
Paradise - 1 (Allesandra)

(7 needed to lynch)
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flumes
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Alright, we're starting to get somewhere near that critical time range...
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Nobody int this game look scummier than TC. I have no reason to change my vote.
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Paradise
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I doubt TC is vampire/werewolf. He just does not fit the "low profile" necessary to be in the Cult.

It's true he has been acting weird, but he ALWAYS plays like that (and he usually ends up being lynched in the very first days even if he is innocent).

In other words, those who have voted TC should either vote Quaon or Allesandra.
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Tristan da Cunha
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I recommend vote Quaon.
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