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Vampires vs Werewolves (Town-Win); An NSWR "Mafia" Game
Topic Started: Jan 26 2009, 04:05 PM (4,907 Views)
East Anarx
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OOC: Okay, I just posted the Known Town Roles, because the "I want to know" votes got a plurality, not a majority. For the rest of the roles, you'll just have to play to find out.

EDIT: I'm gonna wait just a couple more hours before I send out the roles and start the game.
Edited by East Anarx, Jan 27 2009, 05:36 PM.
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Paradise
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The town is certain to lose with these rules, unless there are very few "pure townies" who can transform into werewolves/vampires.

But well, it's your call. I assume you have thought that out...
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New Harumf
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1. You can vote without signing up.
2. You expect E to see clearly enough through the cloud of smoke that surrounds him to think things through?? :lol: :lol:
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East Anarx
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For what it's worth, I did think it through.
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Rafzakael
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So this is normal mafia with 2 cults. Did I go over cults?
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East Anarx
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It is now DAY 1.

As the villagers emerged from their houses that morning, they were shocked by what lay before them. In the middle of town, impaled on a massive spike, was Esternarx. Clearly, a great evil had come to Vale, Transylvania, and something had to be done.

Day 1 will end on January 29, 9:00 pm CDT, or whenever a lynch is achieved.


EDIT: Day lengthened by 24 hours by request
Edited by East Anarx, Jan 28 2009, 03:55 PM.
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Tristan da Cunha
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"KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL"

Vote: Raf
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Telosan
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TC, are you trying to be killed on day 1?
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Rhadamanthus
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No, he is starting with a vote so that we can judge reactions and see how people behave, i.e., to facilitate discussion.
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Paradise
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Well, since we don't know how many werewolves/vampires there are, we cannot know if it is statistically beneficial to vote a no lynch on the first day.

My guess (and it is a complete guess) is that, to balance the game, there must be 1 vampire and 1 werewolf. Another possibility would be 2 vampires and 2 werewolves, but in that case it means there are very few vanilla townies (2-3 or so).

Too much uncertainty, I do nothing for now.
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lebowski2123
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All I know is that I'm nervous.
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Paradise
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Here are my assumptions on the roles:
1 Doctor
1 Cop
1 Mayor
1 Vigilante
1 Werewolf
1 Vampire
2 "Special" townie roles (assumed "immune" to transformation)
4 Vanilla townies

I think lynching on day 1 is a must.

If we don't lynch, there is more than 50% probability (based on assumptions) that the "baddies" will gain at least 1 new "member" during the night, and that will make it even more difficult to win.

By lynching, we have (based on assumptions) 50% probability of lynching a vanilla townie or a baddy. Lynching a vanilla townie is good in that case because it will prevent the baddies transforming them.

We have no choice but to lynch someone, randomly if necessary.
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Menhad
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We can only guess.

That being said I say we lynch Paradise!

(Note I haven't voted yet)
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flumes
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This is just the kind of sneeky guy who I'd expect to be a werewolve/vampire. I'm also ruling out those who have posted thus far, taking out other shady characters.......

Vote: Quaon
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"Hmm," said Harumf, in character, "this really scares this shit out of me. Dracul, or Vlad, was known as "Vlad the Impailer." I think we are in deep shit. Now who voted to hang someone??????"
Edited by New Harumf, Jan 27 2009, 10:16 PM.
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Tristan da Cunha
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Jan 27 2009, 08:07 PM
No, he is starting with a vote so that we can judge reactions and see how people behave, i.e., to facilitate discussion.
Based on this statement I'm willing to persecute RD with the same zealousness that I persecuted Huesca last round. Who's with me?

If you're vampire/werewolf, vote RD because you'll kill a rival mafiate.

If you're town, vote RD because you'll hang a mafiate.

Unvote: Raf
Vote: RD
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Rafzakael
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Tristan da Cunha
Jan 27 2009, 11:07 PM
Based on this statement I'm willing to persecute RD with the same zealousness that I persecuted Huesca last round. Who's with me?

If you're vampire/werewolf, vote RD because you'll kill a rival mafiate.

If you're town, vote RD because you'll hang a mafiate.

Unvote: Raf
Vote: RD
In standard mafia, the Cult always begins with one person, so there are, I would believe, one of each Vampire and Werewolf in the game today.

TC, would you like to give us some actual logic, instead of "I was right last game, so I must be right this time," and then actually calling for a bandwagon?

VOTE: TC
Edited by Rafzakael, Jan 27 2009, 11:24 PM.
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New Harumf
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Hmm, this is getting curiouser and curiouser. Let me try a few experiments:

** Holds up mirror and looks at everyone ** Hmm, interesting.

**Pulls out crucifix** "Ha!" Who's gonna flinch??

**Starts bouncing red ball with jingle bell inside** "Fetch" **Throws ball**

Based on my scientific method of research:

Vote: TC
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Telosan
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TC immediatly voted for Raf, then turned on RD. Now it's obvious that he's trying to draw out votes so we can decide what to do from there, but he could also be a mafiate trying to act as a townie, figuring that he'd use the logic of pulling out votes as a shield.

Not voting yet, but we must vote a lynch today.
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flumes
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I'll hold off on voting for TC seeing as I thought he was scummy last game and he wasn't... I mean, voting a guy out first round two games in a row is cruel and unusual (not to mention bad gameplay by you TC ;) )...
He is being scummy though....
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Rafzakael
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Telo, his vote for me wasn't too scummy, The first vote of the first day is generally just meant to draw out conversation, and it succceeded. Switching his vote from the conversation-starter to someone he thinks is mafia isn't scummy, either.

However, calling for a bandwagon on a baseless vote, well...
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East Anarx
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TC - 2 votes
RD - 1 vote
Quaon - 1 vote

(7 needed to lynch)
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Tristan da Cunha
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I have a very nice role which I can publicly state. I'm a Townie with Shotgun. I can only be killed if two or more people target me at the same time. Anyone (vamp, werewolf, vigilante, assassin, etc.) who tries to kill me alone, dies, and I survive. That means if you lynch me you'll lose a valuable town asset, because I can potentially take out a lot of mafia with my role.

I'm calling for RD's lynching because he said something that doesn't strike me as what a townie would say. Perhaps he's trying to warn his fellow mafiates not to speak up? Maybe that logic doesn't really make sense. Perhaps there is only one mafiate on a team right now. But as Paradise laid down the logic, we definitely should do a lynch and RD's a good candidate because he would be an extremely dangerous foe to contend with if he's mafia.
Edited by Tristan da Cunha, Jan 28 2009, 01:55 PM.
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Tristan da Cunha
Jan 28 2009, 01:45 PM
I have a very nice role which I can publicly state. I'm a Townie with Shotgun. I can only be killed if two or more people target me at the same time. Anyone (vamp, werewolf, vigilante, assassin, etc.) who tries to kill me alone, dies, and I survive. That means if you lynch me you'll lose a valuable town asset, because I can potentially take out a lot of mafia with my role.

I'm calling for RD's lynching because he said something that doesn't strike me as what a townie would say. Perhaps he's trying to warn his fellow mafiates not to speak up? Maybe that logic doesn't really make sense. Perhaps there is only one mafiate on a team right now. But as Paradise laid down the logic, we definitely should do a lynch and RD's a good candidate because he would be an extremely dangerous foe to contend with if he's mafia.
Shotgun doesn't do ya any good against a lynch, tho, does it???

You need to give me a better reason to change my vote. What specifically did RD say to raise atttention??
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Jan 28 2009, 01:45 PM
I have a very nice role which I can publicly state. I'm a Townie with Shotgun. I can only be killed if two or more people target me at the same time. Anyone (vamp, werewolf, vigilante, assassin, etc.) who tries to kill me alone, dies, and I survive. That means if you lynch me you'll lose a valuable town asset, because I can potentially take out a lot of mafia with my role.

I'm calling for RD's lynching because he said something that doesn't strike me as what a townie would say. Perhaps he's trying to warn his fellow mafiates not to speak up? Maybe that logic doesn't really make sense. Perhaps there is only one mafiate on a team right now. But as Paradise laid down the logic, we definitely should do a lynch and RD's a good candidate because he would be an extremely dangerous foe to contend with if he's mafia.
Are you "immunized" to werewolf/vampire "transformation", like the cop or the vigilante?

I cannot personnally state my role right now or I may become a primary target for the vampires/werewolves. Let's just say that my role is a "trump card" for the Town.

And yes, if we don't lynch someone right now it will become much harder to win because of that transformation thing.

I will come back later with my vote, I'm at work right now (on my break).
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