Vampires vs Werewolves (Town-Win)

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Vampires vs Werewolves (Town-Win); An NSWR "Mafia" Game
Topic Started: Jan 26 2009, 04:05 PM (4,893 Views)
flumes	Feb 6 2009, 02:40 AM Post #376
CLEVELAND ROCKS! Posts: 2,429 Group: Veterans Member #142 Joined: May 22, 2005	Allesandra Feb 5 2009, 10:03 PM Quaon mentioned something about Menhad in his post when he was claiming to be the cop. He said that Menhad was a "plain townie," but that was the only person he mentioned in his post, nobody else. But then he edited his post to just admit to being the Werewolf King and saying I was his cohort as a means of getting rid of me. Meh... So basically it comes down to he said/she said. I really think Allesandra is the most suspicious... We've considered her every round, and passed on her everytime. That may be what is killing us now?? Our scenario's as far as Allesandra goes... A. Today-Kill Allesandra (Scum) Win! B. Today-Kill Allesandra (Scum) Tonight-Mafia still alive, goes after doctor? This is why doctor shouldn't come out directly... Nor should the few of us with roles unstated, although hinting would be key. This would be key here. Tomorrow-Hang ?? Maybe Menhad? A Quaon like effort to throw us off? Fool me, once shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. C. Today-Kill Allesandra (Doctor) (Why doc should come out...) Tonight-Mafia kills RD Tomorrow-We assume Allesandra's telling truth about Menhad, hang him. 1. Menhad Dead, scum, game over. 2. Menhad Dead, scum, but game not over. Probably screwed if we're in this deep, but not for sure... 3. Menhad Dead, townie, probably screwed, but not for sure. I feel like Allesandra is more likely then anyone else to be scum, based on her shadyness throughout... Sound like our best shot? I'll hold off until thoughts are given.. Edit: I'm with TC! I want a winner already!!! Edited by flumes, Feb 6 2009, 02:41 AM.



Telosan	Feb 6 2009, 07:09 AM Post #377
The Foremost Intellectual Badass Posts: 3,893 Group: Map Makers Member #445 Joined: May 27, 2008	Yeah, this needs to move on. If we kill the doctor today, doesn't matter as the doctor has a good chance of dying tonight anyway. Allesandra has no real defense set up, and only used the doctor excuse to give us pause. VOTE: Allesandra



Paradise	Feb 6 2009, 08:15 AM Post #378
Resident bureaucrat Posts: 2,268 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: December 23, 2003	I hope you guys are right about this. Vote: Allesandra



New Harumf	Feb 6 2009, 09:25 AM Post #379
Bloodthirsty Unicorn Posts: 9,638 Group: Forum Mods Member #177 Joined: October 8, 2005	I have a real nervous feeling right now about Lebowski and Menhad. If I survive the night I will test my theory tomorrow.



Rhadamanthus	Feb 6 2009, 09:35 AM Post #380
Legitimist Posts: 12,945 Group: Admin Member #19 Joined: January 13, 2004	Telosan Feb 6 2009, 07:09 AM Yeah, this needs to move on. If we kill the doctor today, doesn't matter as the doctor has a good chance of dying tonight anyway. Allesandra has no real defense set up, and only used the doctor excuse to give us pause. VOTE: Allesandra I've had her pegged as the Doctor since Day 3. This wasn't a casual excuse she just threw out to give us pause. It was something she hinted at since Day 1. It is one of exactly two things: 1) Something she tried to hint at earlier that she has now stated publically to better protect herself, or 2) A well planned alibi/false-roleclaim that she had planned as early as the first damn day. By the way, did none of you guys actually pick up on here hints (whether true or false) earlier? Allesandra, Post 263 Day 3 If you guys wanna vote for me, fine. I promise it'll be a loss for the town, though. If you actually read back through the posts at what I've said, you might catch what I mean. After seeing that, I read back through all her posts and found this, in the famous "same here" post: Allesandra, Post 167 Day 1 plays with scalpels quietly in a corner So basically, she has been hinting at/claiming to be the doctor since Day 1; I only picked up on Day 3. And now she has officially roleclaimed on Day 5. That doesn't make it necessarily true or false, but it is not any kind of hasty defense set up at the last moment.



New Harumf	Feb 6 2009, 09:57 AM Post #381
Bloodthirsty Unicorn Posts: 9,638 Group: Forum Mods Member #177 Joined: October 8, 2005	Romanus Diogenes Feb 6 2009, 09:35 AM Telosan Feb 6 2009, 07:09 AM Yeah, this needs to move on. If we kill the doctor today, doesn't matter as the doctor has a good chance of dying tonight anyway. Allesandra has no real defense set up, and only used the doctor excuse to give us pause. VOTE: Allesandra I've had her pegged as the Doctor since Day 3. This wasn't a casual excuse she just threw out to give us pause. It was something she hinted at since Day 1. It is one of exactly two things: 1) Something she tried to hint at earlier that she has now stated publically to better protect herself, or 2) A well planned alibi/false-roleclaim that she had planned as early as the first damn day. By the way, did none of you guys actually pick up on here hints (whether true or false) earlier? Allesandra, Post 263 Day 3 If you guys wanna vote for me, fine. I promise it'll be a loss for the town, though. If you actually read back through the posts at what I've said, you might catch what I mean. After seeing that, I read back through all her posts and found this, in the famous "same here" post: Allesandra, Post 167 Day 1 plays with scalpels quietly in a corner So basically, she has been hinting at/claiming to be the doctor since Day 1; I only picked up on Day 3. And now she has officially roleclaimed on Day 5. That doesn't make it necessarily true or false, but it is not any kind of hasty defense set up at the last moment. OK, based on that evidence, I will: Unvote: Allisandra Now, as to my theory. E has always been a big vampyre buff, even said so on his Myspace page. As such, he is a purist. As such, he would set up a rule where VAMPYRES CAN ONLY BE ACTIVE AT NIGHT! How does this impact this game? My theory is that in his instructions to Vampyres they are prohibited from posting during day-light hours EXCEPT TO VOTE. If we realized this early on, it would have been easy to get that cult. Based on that theory, I am changing my vote: Vote: Lebowski



Paradise	Feb 6 2009, 10:25 AM Post #382
Resident bureaucrat Posts: 2,268 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: December 23, 2003	You theory doesn't seem to hold. First, lebowski did post without voting at these three occasions: Post #178 lebowski2123 Tristan da Cunha Jan 29 2009, 01:42 PM I need someone to withdraw his vote from me! I'm of critical importance to the town. Oh, maybe this will work if you say it for a twentieth time Post #189 lebowski2123 Telosan Jan 29 2009, 07:37 PM At least 1 of the 4 people who voted Allesandra, Paradise, and Raf need to pick TC or Quaon. If we're at a tie it goes till the tie is broken, right? I hope someone more familiar with the rules corrects me if wrong, but i think we ran into a similar situation in the first game, and when the day ends in a tie the last vote is removed. This would mean that Q is lynched, because it was Q's vote for TC that forced the tie. Post #292 lebowski2123 Well I'd tend to align myself with Paradise's vote (for pretty obvious reasons) until I can go back and read the thread. Huesca shouldn't get doctor protection either way, because being a simple townie shouldn't be enough to use so valuable a role. I'd vote for Huesca over Allesandra right now, but I'm going to read everything over and get back tomorrow, 3 PM EST, for those you keeping track of my activity. Second, according to my Excel table, lebowski voted twice for a werewolf. Third, if lebowski was vampire as you say and vampires can't post except for voting, then Rafzakael was certainly not respecting the rules set by Esternarx. Fourth, we already speculated (and I still do) that the vampires were eliminated, because Raf on night 1 attacked RD and he was lynched on day 2, letting him no time to get a new follower. Fifth, in all games, lebowski plays low profile, I can't remember a single time where he was particularly active. He is probably too busy to come here as frequently as we do. As Raf stated in last game, we cannot base our voting on the fact that a player is missing, last game he was not there and he was the doc! Lastly, lebowski, after day 1, always aligned his vote on mine (he said so) so I'd rather trust him right now. If anything, RD could investigate him on the next night to be 100% sure, but based on his usual behavior and on his behavior in this game, I'd rather trust him. EDIT: Right now, my two main suspects are Allesandra and Menhad. Edited by Paradise, Feb 6 2009, 10:27 AM.



Rhadamanthus	Feb 6 2009, 10:32 AM Post #383
Legitimist Posts: 12,945 Group: Admin Member #19 Joined: January 13, 2004	Lebowski is the only person who has not posted since Allesandra roleclaimed Doctor. Logically, we should let him post too to see if he challenges her roleclaim with a counter-claim. I think there is a better chance of her actually being the Doctor if noone counterclaims.



New Harumf	Feb 6 2009, 11:14 AM Post #384
Bloodthirsty Unicorn Posts: 9,638 Group: Forum Mods Member #177 Joined: October 8, 2005	Well, him voting for warewolves does not mean he is NOT a Vampyre. However, I think you might be right about the Vampyre cult being dead, so, now, with RD's hunch about Allisandra, I am at a quandry. I still trust my instincts that she could be scum so I am going back that way. I appologize in advance for switching my vote so much but this is really quite impossible. So, Unvote: Lebowski Vote: Allisandra



flumes	Feb 6 2009, 11:28 AM Post #385
CLEVELAND ROCKS! Posts: 2,429 Group: Veterans Member #142 Joined: May 22, 2005	Blahhh... I don't know anymore. My best bet is that Allesandra is lying. I'm not all that confident though. We need a lynch here... And I can't pick a person in the game now with more suspiciousness against her constantly throughout the game. The other guys who have not to my knowledge been looked at so far have not really done anything to sway me either way. We need this to go our way. Vote-Allesandra



Allesandra	Feb 6 2009, 12:16 PM Post #386
Only Girl Actively Participating in Threads Posts: 418 Group: Members Member #389 Joined: December 3, 2007	I'm gonna go with what I saw before. Vote: Menhad



Tristan da Cunha	Feb 6 2009, 12:56 PM Post #387
Science and Industry Posts: 6,792 Group: Veterans Member #86 Joined: November 1, 2004	Vote Count: Allesandra: 5 (Menhad, Telosan, Paradise, NH, Flumes) Needed to lynch: 5 Edited by Paradise, Feb 6 2009, 01:36 PM.



Rhadamanthus	Feb 6 2009, 01:13 PM Post #388
Legitimist Posts: 12,945 Group: Admin Member #19 Joined: January 13, 2004	Goddamn Flumes!! Did you have to put in the death vote? I specifically asked earlier to wait for lebowski to post to see if he counterclaims Doctor before we lynch!



flumes	Feb 6 2009, 01:28 PM Post #389
CLEVELAND ROCKS! Posts: 2,429 Group: Veterans Member #142 Joined: May 22, 2005	What!?! My bad, I didn't see Menhad's vote for Allesandra. I figured we would be at 4, and Menhad could cast the 5th based on him being doctor or not... :(



New Harumf	Feb 6 2009, 01:28 PM Post #390
Bloodthirsty Unicorn Posts: 9,638 Group: Forum Mods Member #177 Joined: October 8, 2005	Why is TC posting in here? I thought he was dead?? TC . . . shush :nono: Edited by Paradise, Feb 6 2009, 01:36 PM.



Paradise	Feb 6 2009, 01:40 PM Post #391
Resident bureaucrat Posts: 2,268 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: December 23, 2003	Tristan da Cunha Feb 6 2009, 12:56 PM Vote Count: Allesandra: 5 (Menhad, Telosan, Paradise, NH, Flumes) Needed to lynch: 5 Ok TC, dead players cannot intervene in the game like you just did. I had to edit your post and NH's post accordingly. You have your own topic if you want to post commentaries. I don't think there is a problem if you make the vote counts, though... EDIT: this was a OOC intervention. If you don't know what I'm talking about, just forget this message. Edited by Paradise, Feb 6 2009, 02:37 PM.



Tristan da Cunha	Feb 6 2009, 01:41 PM Post #392
Science and Industry Posts: 6,792 Group: Veterans Member #86 Joined: November 1, 2004	My bad.



Telosan	Feb 6 2009, 02:58 PM Post #393
The Foremost Intellectual Badass Posts: 3,893 Group: Map Makers Member #445 Joined: May 27, 2008	That's the death vote?! Allesandra HAS dropped hints, I really didn't notice! When she originally mentioned the scapel part I noted that she could be the doctor, but forgot about it. Edited by Telosan, Feb 6 2009, 02:59 PM.



Menhad	Feb 6 2009, 04:44 PM Post #394
ET2(IDW) Posts: 2,681 Group: Veterans Member #143 Joined: May 22, 2005	Telosan Feb 6 2009, 02:58 PM That's the death vote?! Allesandra HAS dropped hints, I really didn't notice! When she originally mentioned the scapel part I noted that she could be the doctor, but forgot about it. Ah! Unvote: Allesandra



flumes	Feb 6 2009, 05:00 PM Post #395
CLEVELAND ROCKS! Posts: 2,429 Group: Veterans Member #142 Joined: May 22, 2005	Menhad Feb 6 2009, 04:44 PM Telosan Feb 6 2009, 02:58 PM That's the death vote?! Allesandra HAS dropped hints, I really didn't notice! When she originally mentioned the scapel part I noted that she could be the doctor, but forgot about it. Ah! Unvote: Allesandra Well that's a bad sign. Does the vote count then at the moment I voted? Or is it undone now?



Menhad	Feb 6 2009, 05:03 PM Post #396
ET2(IDW) Posts: 2,681 Group: Veterans Member #143 Joined: May 22, 2005	flumes Feb 6 2009, 05:00 PM Menhad Feb 6 2009, 04:44 PM Telosan Feb 6 2009, 02:58 PM That's the death vote?! Allesandra HAS dropped hints, I really didn't notice! When she originally mentioned the scapel part I noted that she could be the doctor, but forgot about it. Ah! Unvote: Allesandra Well that's a bad sign. Does the vote count then at the moment I voted? Or is it undone now? I DON"T KNOW But I think Allesandra is scummy, because she put those hint out there not to look scummy and to look good. Edited by Menhad, Feb 6 2009, 05:04 PM.



Rhadamanthus	Feb 6 2009, 05:04 PM Post #397
Legitimist Posts: 12,945 Group: Admin Member #19 Joined: January 13, 2004	flumes Feb 6 2009, 05:00 PM Menhad Feb 6 2009, 04:44 PM Telosan Feb 6 2009, 02:58 PM That's the death vote?! Allesandra HAS dropped hints, I really didn't notice! When she originally mentioned the scapel part I noted that she could be the doctor, but forgot about it. Ah! Unvote: Allesandra Well that's a bad sign. Does the vote count then at the moment I voted? Or is it undone now? Its up to Esternarx, but I'm pretty sure a lynch is supposed to happen when you hit the threshold. So hopefully you guys were right about her. Edited by Rhadamanthus, Feb 6 2009, 05:05 PM.



Paradise	Feb 6 2009, 05:54 PM Post #398
Resident bureaucrat Posts: 2,268 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: December 23, 2003	It must be curiosity, but I hate that when we have to wait like this lol. Btw, I'd like to GM the next game (hopefully this game will end right now). I came up with an interesting concept, the title will be: "In space, no one can hear you scream". I can't tell you more, but the title gives out a good idea :lol:



Telosan	Feb 6 2009, 05:59 PM Post #399
The Foremost Intellectual Badass Posts: 3,893 Group: Map Makers Member #445 Joined: May 27, 2008	Quote: Btw, I'd like to GM the next game (hopefully this game will end right now). Ah! You beat me to it! I've been thinking up a nice Romeo and Juliet one ever since I learned of cults. I call afterwards then. Quote: Does the vote count then at the moment I voted? It's the way it's happened so far, so I'd assume so.



flumes	Feb 6 2009, 07:05 PM Post #400
CLEVELAND ROCKS! Posts: 2,429 Group: Veterans Member #142 Joined: May 22, 2005	Paradise Feb 6 2009, 05:54 PM It must be curiosity, but I hate that when we have to wait like this lol. Btw, I'd like to GM the next game (hopefully this game will end right now). I came up with an interesting concept, the title will be: "In space, no one can hear you scream". I can't tell you more, but the title gives out a good idea :lol: :unsure: I like it. ... And I am the exact same... I'll be on the computer, and i keep checking the site every five minutes or so hoping for an update. Edited by flumes, Feb 6 2009, 07:05 PM.


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