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Vampires vs Werewolves (Town-Win); An NSWR "Mafia" Game
Topic Started: Jan 26 2009, 04:05 PM (4,897 Views)
Rhadamanthus
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Can we get a vote count? I was going to vote Huesca in the last post, but I don't want this day ending as fast as the previous one.
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Huesca: 2 (Paradise, Telosan)
Allesandra: 2 (flumes, Menhad)
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Rhadamanthus
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Ok, since we aren't in the danger zone, I'll put my vote in.

VOTE: HUESCA
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Huesca: 3 (Paradise, Telosan, RD)
Allesandra: 2 (flumes, Menhad)
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Feb 2 2009, 05:31 PM
I do think we need to slow this down. I want to hear from Menhad and Quaun.

Unvote: Huesca
Don't forget Lebowski...

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RD,
I was more pointing to TC as far as the flip flopping goes... Raf wasn't as much, and I thought it was pretty obvious through his postings he was dirty. That said I thought and still think some of the quiet ones are the most suspicious.

All I'm saying about the flip-flopping is be careful. We potentially still have 1 and 1 as far as both cults go. If that is the case, the flip flopping would make no sense what so ever for mafiates.... The reason they flip flop is usually to draw attention away from a friend when a lynch looks like a for sure, correct? Or is there some other reason... That is why I really don't think Huesca is a mafiate. He could be for sure, I'm just saying that if he was telling the truth about being vanilla originally, there are some others who I see as more likely to have gotten bitten. I mean if your a mafiate, wouldn't you save the out of the closet vanilla's for later if they have come out as such, knowing that the town will accuse them sooner or later? My vote for Allesandra over Huesca is simply because I think she lied about being Vanialla, unlike Huesca who I think is vanilla.

Really want to hear from the quiet ones still...
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Both Huesca and Allesandra have a fairly suspicious habit of making very few posts and generally trying to avoid being noticed.

Allesandra, I suspect, is not all that great a player. No offense intended to her, but I've seen remarkably poor tactics from her in previous games. I think it's likely that she's a vampire and keeping her head low because of that. Therefore, while still suspicious of Huesca, I'm voting for her.

Vote: Allesandra
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IMHO, Huesca is much more suspicious than Allesandra.

And Quaon, what makes you believe she would be a vampire especially?
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flumes
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How many are needed today to lynch? After reading through again, Huesca or Allesandra are both okay with me. I think Allesandra is the better bet though for the town.
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Was just going to ask that. We need to keep a careful eye on the danger level here.

Should someone jump up and throw a vote on either of them before we can react, thus killing them, it'd be like assasinating a witness before they can reveal anything. At least to me anyway. Let's try discuss votes that would put them in the danger zone BEFORE they are made.
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Paradise
Feb 2 2009, 07:52 PM
IMHO, Huesca is much more suspicious than Allesandra.

And Quaon, what makes you believe she would be a vampire especially?
Her play style. She's hiding something, and she's hiding it badly.
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Quaon
Feb 2 2009, 08:39 PM
Paradise
Feb 2 2009, 07:52 PM
IMHO, Huesca is much more suspicious than Allesandra.

And Quaon, what makes you believe she would be a vampire especially?
Her play style. She's hiding something, and she's hiding it badly.
No, what I mean is why would she be a vampire especially instead of a werewolf?
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Don't think he meant specificaly one cult or the other. I understood it as a general term, referring to both.
Edited by Telosan, Feb 2 2009, 08:54 PM.
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Rhadamanthus
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Paradise
Feb 2 2009, 08:48 PM
Quaon
Feb 2 2009, 08:39 PM
Paradise
Feb 2 2009, 07:52 PM
IMHO, Huesca is much more suspicious than Allesandra.

And Quaon, what makes you believe she would be a vampire especially?
Her play style. She's hiding something, and she's hiding it badly.
No, what I mean is why would she be a vampire especially instead of a werewolf?
Perhaps Q knows something we don't.
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Romanus Diogenes
Feb 2 2009, 08:58 PM
Paradise
Feb 2 2009, 08:48 PM
Quaon
Feb 2 2009, 08:39 PM
Paradise
Feb 2 2009, 07:52 PM
IMHO, Huesca is much more suspicious than Allesandra.

And Quaon, what makes you believe she would be a vampire especially?
Her play style. She's hiding something, and she's hiding it badly.
No, what I mean is why would she be a vampire especially instead of a werewolf?
Perhaps Q knows something we don't.
That's what I was thinking.

Since the beginning, we're using the general word "cultist" and now he brings "vampire"? He must know something.
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Yes, I think that his whole line of attack in this last conversation suggests that he is not revealing something he knows.
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I meant "Vampire" as cultist. I keep forgetting that it's Vampires vs Werewolfs, not just a Vampires game (in real life, I've never played with Werewolfs in a game). It's in the same vein as the Nag accusation. :lol:
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Well I'd tend to align myself with Paradise's vote (for pretty obvious reasons) until I can go back and read the thread. Huesca shouldn't get doctor protection either way, because being a simple townie shouldn't be enough to use so valuable a role. I'd vote for Huesca over Allesandra right now, but I'm going to read everything over and get back tomorrow, 3 PM EST, for those you keeping track of my activity.
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Quaon
Feb 2 2009, 09:46 PM
I meant "Vampire" as cultist. I keep forgetting that it's Vampires vs Werewolfs, not just a Vampires game (in real life, I've never played with Werewolfs in a game). It's in the same vein as the Nag accusation. :lol:
I see...
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I think you guys are being a bit paranoid about this, jumping on a single word.

Although a slip-up can tell alot, regardless of how small. If he knows something, that makes him the cop, or a cultist. If he's a cop, we may have just killed him.
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Feb 2 2009, 05:52 PM
During the night games, I've seen Huesca and Telosan stay on for a long period of time, along with RD and NH.
OK, pure Bullshit. I have not been lurking about during the night games.

Therefore:

Vote: Allesandra

P.S. I will NOT change that vote.
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Vote count
Allesandra: 4
Huesca: 3

Needed for a lynch: 6

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Come on guys, Huesca claimed to be a townie on day 1. It is highly probable that he is cultist right now.
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Feb 2 2009, 03:01 PM
After re-reading this all, I'm going to go with my hunch on Allesandra. She has disappeared, making me think she is lying low. Huesca has at least made some defenses and was in fact the key to the big lynch yesterday as RD said. Doctors protection for him might not be a bad idea...

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Again flumes, you're thinking in two dimensions and you need to think in three.

Huesca's defence is only based on his own claim. This is not a strong defence.

Huesca may have been the key to the big lynch of day 2, but he may also have been infected by the other Cult (that would be the werewolves since Raf was vampire). If that's the case (and it's most probably the case), then his interests coincided temporarily with the Town. This is not a proof of his innocence.

There is too much uncertainty around Allesandra right now.

EDIT: Menhad, I also think you should consider switching your vote.
Edited by Paradise, Feb 3 2009, 04:32 PM.
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I second NH. Honestly, Allesandra is trying to divert attention from herself.

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Feb 3 2009, 04:39 PM
I second NH. Honestly, Allesandra is trying to divert attention from herself.

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Irony.
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Paradise
Feb 3 2009, 04:30 PM
flumes
Feb 2 2009, 03:01 PM
After re-reading this all, I'm going to go with my hunch on Allesandra. She has disappeared, making me think she is lying low. Huesca has at least made some defenses and was in fact the key to the big lynch yesterday as RD said. Doctors protection for him might not be a bad idea...

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Again flumes, you're thinking in two dimensions and you need to think in three.

Huesca's defence is only based on his own claim. This is not a strong defence.

Huesca may have been the key to the big lynch of day 2, but he may also have been infected by the other Cult (that would be the werewolves since Raf was vampire). If that's the case (and it's most probably the case), then his interests coincided temporarily with the Town. This is not a proof of his innocence.

There is too much uncertainty around Allesandra right now.

EDIT: Menhad, I also think you should consider switching your vote.
Well if the cop investigates her then I'm fine with it. The whole third team makes this so much harder.

Unvote: Allesandra
Vote: Huesca
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