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| Jambalai Island Mafia (Town Win); Game Three | |
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| Topic Started: Jan 15 2009, 09:27 PM (3,171 Views) | |
| Telosan | Jan 19 2009, 03:25 PM Post #101 |
The Foremost Intellectual Badass
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So now I'm mafia because I won't listen to TC. Of course, he has no evidence to prove this other than I won't listen to him, though he very well may be mafia himself. My plan is the same as RD's. Lynch RD to prove whether or not he is townie or mafia. If he is a townie, then TC is mafia. If not, well then we just got a mafiate. Right now the only ones saying/doing anything is RD, TC, and I. Everyone else needs to come forward and change their votes. To many people have just 1 vote, and there's no arguement against or for them. Instead of wasting a vote, you can spend it on either TC or RD. I say we follow RD's plan because regardless of what happens, we will have at least 1 mafiate dead. Though it may sound like I'm trying to start a bandwagon, I'm saying that everyone who voted TC should now vote RD. Also a question. If no one reaches 6 votes by the end of the day, is there no lynch? Or will it be the person with the highest number of votes? |
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| flumes | Jan 19 2009, 03:34 PM Post #102 |
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Fools! It is clear TC and RD are both mafia at this point... Both are trying to cast equal suspicion on the other so we don't have a lynch today! I'm staying with TC as he has been especially scummy since the game's start... RD also seems to mention the fact I just mentioned......... But I'll switch to RD if it means a lynch today. Edited by flumes, Jan 19 2009, 03:34 PM.
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| Tristan da Cunha | Jan 19 2009, 03:41 PM Post #103 |
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Telosan, your "logic" makes absolutely no sense. There is no logical relationship between RD's status and TC's status. If RD is mafia, it does not necessarily mean TC is a townie. If RD is a townie, it does not necessarily mean TC is mafia. Telosan is trying to confuse people with a series of logical fallacies. Telosan is mafia. |
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| Telosan | Jan 19 2009, 03:44 PM Post #104 |
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If they're both mafia, killing RD first and then TC second will have us 2 dead mafia in 2 days. That could be a record for a game of mafia. If RD isn't mafia and we kill him, then TC most definatly is. If TC isn't mafia and we kill him first, then RD is definatly mafia. EDIT: TC posted while I was typing this up. I'll answer him here rather than make a double post.
It would mean exactly that. You two are claiming the other to be mafia, and either of you could be the real mafiate trying to get us to kill the other. You COULD both be townies, but we have know way of knowing until after the fact. If you're both townies, we can save 1 of you by having the cop investigate the survivor tonight. If the cop finds the survivor as a townie, then we all made a mistake. We should have learned by now in the last games that just because people make a mistake and kill a townie, doesn't mean they are mafia. This is the first round. As RD knows, and has pointed out, we have anywhere from a 10/12 to a 8/12 chance of killing a townie. Therfore, we are very likely to be killing a townie. You claim that I am a mafiate, Huesca is a mafiate, and RD is a mafiate. In the first round, that is IMPOSSIBLE to figure out 3 out of a max of 4 mafiates. There may even be 2 mafia and you're claiming to have found 3. If I was mafia do you think I would risk getting killed so early in the game? Edited by Telosan, Jan 19 2009, 03:53 PM.
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| flumes | Jan 19 2009, 03:47 PM Post #105 |
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As my philosophy teacher would say Your logic is good.... But the premesies for your logic are bad. Just because one is/isn't, that doesn't make the counterpart not guilty or guilty. They could be playing us, or they could both be off with their arguments... These flaws and your persistence is kinda making you look shady... I'm still going for TC. He has been consistently scummy. |
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| Tristan da Cunha | Jan 19 2009, 03:52 PM Post #106 |
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Flumes, Telosan's strike against him is his relentless defense of Huesca. Huesca is the most guilty party of all. Huesca's the one who absolutely refused to compromise on a first day "no vote" in the Roxy Inn Mafia and now his vote is as loose as a 10 dollar hooker. Telosan's attempt to turn this into an RD vs. TC referendum is complete confirmatory proof of his guilt. This is a Huesca vs. TC referedum. Vote against me, or vote against Huesca. We can take care of the RD problem later. |
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| Tristan da Cunha | Jan 19 2009, 03:59 PM Post #107 |
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You're just trying to draw out the cop so you can kill him.
It's POSSIBLE in extraordinary circumstances, when there is extraordinary evidence as I've presented. When I get lynched I'll repeat my last will and testament again: Huesca, Telosan, RD. Edited by Tristan da Cunha, Jan 19 2009, 03:59 PM.
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| Union | Jan 19 2009, 04:00 PM Post #108 |
Pyrenees Republic
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Why me or you? Why try to limit the choices? The only reason I did not vote no one this round, is because Raf's argument last round for why that is a bad idea convinced me. If learning from mistakes is scummy behavior, then so be it. I quite honestly have no idea who to vote for - TC or RD. They both seem to be working together, to tell the truth. Edited by Union, Jan 19 2009, 04:02 PM.
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| Rhadamanthus | Jan 19 2009, 04:03 PM Post #109 |
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To be honest, I don't really see how trying a different strategy in a different game of mafia is suspicious or scummy. If that's the case against Huesca, it doesn't even make sense. TC continually attempts to turn the lead of baseless, unnervingly certain, accusations into the gold of substantial proofs. This is why I will stick to voting TC. He behaves as if he knows exactly who is town and who is mafia. He is either mafia, or has been playing as a mafioso so long that he doesn't know how to sound like anything else. Telosan: Flumes and TC are technically correct. While I strongly suspect that TC is mafia and is fingering me for that reason, we could theoretically both be town or both be mafia. I still think though, that if you kill me and see that I'm town, that TC would be a great suspect for a brutal lynching the next day. That's the only way I can think of that my death will be useful, so I will keep promoting the idea. But really, TC has pulled out accusations from thin air with perfect certainty that he knows how many mafia there are and who they are. What the fuck? |
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| Tristan da Cunha | Jan 19 2009, 04:08 PM Post #110 |
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The "no vote" wasn't a bad idea and you're convinced it wasn't a bad idea. You knew the chances for killing a townie were far too high -almost certain, and that's why you voted conservatively as you did when you were a cop. You are not a cop this round, and your complete lack of caution marks you as mafia. |
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| flumes | Jan 19 2009, 04:12 PM Post #111 |
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TC, I'm with you on the suspicion of Huesca, but I think our suspicions are motivated by different reasons... I am a townie... Simply put. You on the other hand, Huesca was on your lynch bandwagon until only one vote was needed... He jumps off at that point, and takes us away from a much needed day one lynch. You to that point had been scummy, and while I figured the "I've been mafia the last two, the odds of it again are low" argument would surface at some point in these games, I don't think it applies here. Your back on Huesca now, so that his getting off your bandwagon at the end looks less suspicious... That last sentence was key EVERYONE. I don't like RD either... He could just as well be in on this conflict with you guys, and just using the fighting as an attempt to make us townies think that there is some good in that grouping... I'm not convinced on Teleson. His reasoning is off, but I don't think it is scummy yet at least... Eyes are on him though for sure...... My other big question. Where the heck is: NH Paradise Lebowski Menhad Raf They have disapeered! Could some of them be hiding just to promote fighting amongst us and a bad lynch? Want to hear from that group soon. |
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| Tristan da Cunha | Jan 19 2009, 04:28 PM Post #112 |
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Flumes, vote against Huesca this round. If he's innocent just lynch me the next day. But he won't be innocent at all. |
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| Telosan | Jan 19 2009, 04:36 PM Post #113 |
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TC, RD, Huesca, and I have said everything we could possibly say and are now down to repeating ourselves. Everyone else needs to come review these posts, make a decision, and finish the debate. This gets longer without needing to, so let's please just make a decision. |
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| flumes | Jan 19 2009, 04:38 PM Post #114 |
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I won't rule it out, but I'm not quite ready yet... Need to hear others thoughts on him first. Added to that list of missing: E He voted against me for basically IC reasons... But has otherwise gone unheard from. |
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| New Harumf | Jan 19 2009, 05:03 PM Post #115 |
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OOC: If you've seen E's picture under the picture post, you'll know why he has been tied up. :lol: I am not changing my vote. Also, same odds for every game as to if you are mofia or not. Once, or ten in a row, same odds for the 11th as for the first, so that argument is BS. Keep bandwagoning around, and you all look suspisious! And you fall into TC's web. |
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| Tristan da Cunha | Jan 19 2009, 05:11 PM Post #116 |
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I would like to let it be known that today I'd much rather TC lynched than RD lynched. This is because my lynching and not RD's lynching is immediately relevant to exposing Huesca's fraud. RD will be properly disposed of in due time. |
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| Telosan | Jan 19 2009, 05:16 PM Post #117 |
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I think I missed something...how does this expose Huesca? I'm not changing my vote. You came up with the same plan as RD did except with different people. Now I think you're just trying for the 'sacrifice' thing so that we don't vote for you, same as I said for RD. Staying with the original plan. Now stop posting and let the other's catch up and say their piece. |
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| Tristan da Cunha | Jan 19 2009, 05:16 PM Post #118 |
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Not possible. Raf specifically stated that he disqualified Telosan from being mafia in the first game. GM's can of course adjust the roles, and I don't believe Allesandra would allow someone to be mafia for 3 games in a row. |
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| flumes | Jan 19 2009, 05:21 PM Post #119 |
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Wait! :lol: That's E? I thought when I saw it that it was just some spammer since it is a new account. That does look like the pictures of him I recall. :o |
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| Rhadamanthus | Jan 19 2009, 05:23 PM Post #120 |
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:rolleyes: We have absolutely zero evidence to tell us that Allesandra made any such rules modifications. You, perhaps know the answer, but none of the rest of us have any plausible evidence that such a thing is true. We aren't going to disqualify you from being mafia in this game based on entirely unrelated games. NH called it right: the probability is the same. TC: The fact that you were mafia twice before is entirely irrelevant to this game. |
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| Menhad | Jan 19 2009, 05:25 PM Post #121 |
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Sorry, I could only get a quick look at the post(Been busy today) But I can't decide between TC or RD. I'm leaning towards RD but it is still a toss up.(Every one has pointed out good reasons) Edited by Menhad, Jan 19 2009, 05:29 PM.
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| Tristan da Cunha | Jan 19 2009, 05:29 PM Post #122 |
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In that case vote against me today and vote against Huesca the next day. Edited by Tristan da Cunha, Jan 19 2009, 05:30 PM.
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| Menhad | Jan 19 2009, 05:30 PM Post #123 |
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Please explain your logic behind that |
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| Tristan da Cunha | Jan 19 2009, 05:33 PM Post #124 |
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I presented evidence Huesca is mafia. There's already suspicion on RD, but strangely enough there is no cloud of suspicion on Huesca. I need to create suspicion against Huesca and that may have to involve my lynching today. |
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| Rhadamanthus | Jan 19 2009, 06:25 PM Post #125 |
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You know, I'm half inclined to try this Huesca thing just to see what TC is really up to. But I feel like I'd be letting him use me as a pawn... |
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