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| Topic Started: Nov 14 2008, 07:42 AM (301 Views) | |
| Filo | Nov 14 2008, 07:42 AM Post #1 |
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How can i ask to come to study and work in America? Thanks |
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| Union | Nov 14 2008, 08:19 AM Post #2 |
Pyrenees Republic
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visit US embassy. |
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| Paradise | Nov 14 2008, 01:41 PM Post #3 |
Resident bureaucrat
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I hope this is helpful: http://www.unitedstatesvisas.gov/studying.html |
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| Filo | Nov 14 2008, 06:18 PM Post #4 |
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A consulate is the same? |
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| Rafzakael | Nov 14 2008, 07:32 PM Post #5 |
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Sorta. The Embassy is usually located in the capital of another country, consulates are representatives of the embassy in another city. There's only one British embassy in the US (in DC) but there are consulates in LA, New York, and other cities. |
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| Filo | Nov 15 2008, 08:03 AM Post #6 |
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I cannot reach the ambassy in rome, but i'll try to talk with Florence Consul. |
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| New Harumf | Nov 15 2008, 08:30 AM Post #7 |
Bloodthirsty Unicorn
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The council in Florence should be able to provide you with all the info Rome could. I wish you success!! |
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| A.Q. | Nov 16 2008, 08:37 AM Post #8 |
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If you reeeeaallly wanted to do it, you could always do like my brother-in-law did and marry an American. (He's an Aussie.) |
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| Draxis | Nov 16 2008, 09:09 AM Post #9 |
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I <3 my British Consulate in SF. I have no clue what I would do without them. Then again I also <3 my Biritish embassy in DC as they give me my passport. when I need a new one. :P B) |
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| Filo | Nov 16 2008, 03:07 PM Post #10 |
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I'll try next week and then i'll report to you NH thanks... |
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| NRE | Nov 16 2008, 11:29 PM Post #11 |
Map Tsar and Southern Gentleman
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wait you're a brit? :huh: |
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| Tristan da Cunha | Nov 16 2008, 11:43 PM Post #12 |
Science and Industry
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:o :o :o Plot twist of the century |
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| New Harumf | Nov 17 2008, 09:41 AM Post #13 |
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Bloodthirsty Unicorn
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Up the Rebels! Down the British. Stone him!! |
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| Draxis | Nov 18 2008, 07:07 AM Post #14 |
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I hereby revoke the declaration of independence the 49 states of America (excluding Utah for her majesty does not fancy it) are now the 49 colonies of the United Kingdom. Universal Health Care will be implemented. Though you will of course be required to pay back taxes for the last 232 years of non-payment. If you wish to gain independence you must file the proper paperwork with Parliament as Canada did... though please note it only took them 115 years to become fully independent, though you would not notice it looking at their currency. B) NRE, how could you not know that, I have stated that simple fact many a time here. Though I doubt many took note of it, seeing as we have CE and Nag prancing around (I use prancing in a complimentary way). :P And Yes TC, this is a plot twist on par with Keyser Soza is Verbal Kint, Norman Bates is actually the killer dressed in drag, The Statue of Liberty in Planet of the Apes, Raymond Shaw's controlling mother and Darth Vader as Luke's Father all rolled into one... at least using films made since the 1960's... don't make me mention Dr. Caligari and the damnable german expressionism (though metropolis is a good one). :evil: Draxis wonders if he should mention Memento... or if that would be overkill... Edited by Draxis, Nov 18 2008, 07:11 AM.
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| New Harumf | Nov 18 2008, 09:38 AM Post #15 |
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Hey, I like Dr. Caligari. Not many examples of what the Bauhaus was trying to do around!! Uh, 49 states?? Which one are you leaving us? Oh, Utah! Well, thanks, I like Utah, but, er, would you at least take the Mormons?? |
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| Draxis | Nov 18 2008, 07:29 PM Post #16 |
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No NH, you get the mormons thanks to them donating millions and being the main foot soldiers for Proposition 8 in California which stripped away rights for the gay and lesbian community. Sure it is only the right to get married, but its still bloody tyranny of the majority and unjust discrimination. So you get to keep your god damned mormons. :angry: It barely passed with 52% of the vote. I think it only won by something along the lines of 400,000 votes. So I am fairly confident that it will be struck down by the courts as props with greater numbers of votes and percentages have been struck down as well. But I digress... You can find ways to deal with them yourselves, like making a forced conscription rule that only applies to people born to polygamists... there are ways around living with the mormons, you just have to be creative. Because remember the most sacred institution to mormons is marriage, which according to them should be between a man and his multiple wives. |
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| Sedulius | Nov 18 2008, 11:56 PM Post #17 |
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Warning, this may be offensive. I'm against gay marriage, but I'm more so against Mormons. If we got rid of the Mormons I'd be happy with letting the gays get married. :lol: I'm related to way too many Mormons to be saying this... I have too much disregard for people. :( |
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| East Anarx | Nov 19 2008, 12:03 AM Post #18 |
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So... lemme get this straight... In your opinion, one man and one woman getting married is fine, as is two men getting married, or two women getting married, but it violates your definition of the sanctity of marriage for more than two people to get married? And children born from these slightly more crowded marriage beds should be rounded up and enslaved? What was that about unjust discrimination? |
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| Draxis | Nov 19 2008, 01:10 AM Post #19 |
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Nope, but I'm against them defining marriage in any form via state legislation and changes to the state constitution. I just dislike mormons... |
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| East Anarx | Nov 19 2008, 01:30 AM Post #20 |
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So am I.
I've never met a mormon I liked. Then again, I've never met a mormon I disliked either. All the mormons I've ever met, (though most of them came off as being rather prudish,) were, for the most part, peaceful people. In fact, it's difficult to imagine any of the mormons, (or for that matter almost anyone,) I've ever met violently enforcing their particular definition of marriage on anyone else. Nevertheless, many of those same people have no problem asking someone else to use violence on their behalf, via the state. Perhaps one who opposes "bloody tyranny of the majority" might do well to also oppose the very institution that makes such acts of deferred violence possible? |
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| Draxis | Nov 19 2008, 01:53 AM Post #21 |
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Eh... I've got a year left in the US, not like my weird political leanings will mean anything soon. Then I'm going to be braving the cold canadian winters. Mormons as people... some are okay, some are not... but the LDS, I dislike. I tend not to dislike any religion in particular as they are all belief systems, but when the Mormons put as much weight behind prop 8 as they did the LDS put itself on my dislike list. The Catholic church also put quite a bit of weight behind it, but they were there early, expected, and did not put as much effort into it as the LDS. So as I was saying I hope the court does its job and views the case, as there are at least four lawsuits pertaining to prop 8 that I know of. And E, you know my political views contradict each other. While we do agree on some things via my weird libertarian/anarchist streak, we are opposed on many others via my very liberal leanings on many other issues. So fo rnow I will put my faith in the state to do the right and (IMO) moral thing and reject that legislation and allow civil marriages between persons regardless of gender to continue. If you want to have a religious marriage then it is up to you (IMO again) to find a church that will do the ceremony. But I think it will all sort itself out in a reasonable manner. If it does not, well... I'll get back to you one that. Probably from a bunker in an undisclosed location in Canada. :P |
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| New Harumf | Nov 19 2008, 10:41 AM Post #22 |
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OK, I need to explain a few things to all of you: 1. The Mormons were expected, as were the Catholics, and were not responsible for the passage of Prop 8. The problem came from a large black majority (70%) that voted for Prop 8 since they do not view gay marriage as a Civil Right issue. This is also preached to them from the pulpit of black churches. So, although the Gay community supports black civil rights issues by a factor of 90%, there is no quid-pro-quo. Got to do some educat'n there, since it is usual for liberals to just count on the knee-jerk support of the black community and take it for granted. 2. Marriage is a sacrament, performed by all religions. Marriage should NEVER be sanctioned by any state because of the seperation clause of the Constitution, but no one seems to get this. Civil Unions should be granted by the states if they so feel the need, to ensure the legal rights of two people entering into a contract, and this should be done regardless of the sex, orientation, race or existance of previous contracts. Then, the Federal Government should live by its Constitutional obligation to assure contracts granted in one state are accepted in all other states. 3. Churches should be able to accept or deny anyone looking to recieve a sacrament of marriage. |
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| East Anarx | Nov 19 2008, 02:35 PM Post #23 |
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QFT. But we don't have separation of church and state in this country. You're thinking of some place else... |
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| Sedulius | Nov 19 2008, 05:08 PM Post #24 |
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This. It all goes back to freedom. Can't force people to go against what they believe because that'd be a breach of rights. People get mad over gay marriage because it's called marriage. Change the wording to civil union and many of them stop their whining. On polygamy... the Muslim tradition has been long standing and is part of the Arab people's culture. It is not legal to have more than one wife in the US, but if you are Muslim and marry outside of the US, you are allowed four lives by Muslim law, and can legally bring all of them to the US and stay married. I think that is perfectly fine since that is their culture and tradition. Mormonism on the other hand... Mormonism is one big scam started by Joseph Smith to make money and get as much sex as possible (if you've studied in depth, this is obvious), and it was carried on by Brigham Young, and so forth by the church leaders. Polygamy in the Mormon church has only been for the purpose of taking advantage of females. I could go more in depth about it, but I'm sure you don't want to hear me go on about the Mormons. EDIT: By the way, it's odd that this came from being a talk about getting Filo to America to being a talk about polygamy. Crazy people. Edited by Sedulius, Nov 19 2008, 05:09 PM.
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| Draxis | Nov 19 2008, 09:58 PM Post #25 |
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Yes and no. Yes the mormons were expected to show up. But not expected to show up late (Okay so they have been planning something like this since 1999 after their last prop against gay marriage failed thanks to the courts) and all guns blazing raising many, many, many millions of dollars and being the VAST majority of the staff and volunteers of the Yes on 8 groups. Thanks to the mormon funding they were able to do a lot more, run a better organized campaign, tv commercials, radio commercials, there was a blitz from them starting in lateish (at least in the bay area, I can't claim for the rest of the state) september/early october. NH also left out the large Latino (Catholic) vote which helped in the passing of this proposition, but the fact of the matter is, the bill still barely passed with 52% of the vote. In CA there have been propositions that passed with 60+% and still been taken out by the courts for doing less than what prop 8 does. And yeah the black community is very homophobic in general. The reason Prop 8 got through is in no small part thanks to the record numbers of voters at the polls, had there not been so many voters the prop probably would have just gone down as was expected. There were quite a few factors that went into the prop getting passed, but I like to blame the LDS as they seemed to forget what freedom of speech meant when they suffered from protests and then told people not to protest them as they were just exercising their freedom of speech. They seemed to figure it meant that they could say whatever they chose and made a large move to pass legislation in another state and then go on like nothing happened. Considering that the Mormons raised over $20 million for prop 8, and that mormons who are 2% of the state population accounted for nearly the majority of contributions to the campaign... I'd say they did quite a lot. Then of course that is forgetting the campaign more or less trying blackmail to get donations as well. Thankfully for me I live in one of the few counties which voted in the vast majority to shoot down prop 8. So the culling of that 52% will have to start elsewhere. Siad, why not just remove the term marriage away from everything, We will rename it religious union and civil union. That should kill the debate completely. Then again we might as well at that rate get rid of religion and marriages as well. One causes both suffering and misery and the other just causes misery... I won't say which. IMO, changing the name is not enough, its basically the same as the separate but equal. Its an either or here, either the gay and lesbian community is equal or they are not. |
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