NSWR MAFIA - COMMENTS TOPIC - Current game is dead?

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NSWR MAFIA - COMMENTS TOPIC - Current game is dead?; Minimal analysis only
Topic Started: Nov 2 2008, 10:38 PM (2,017 Views)
Rhadamanthus	Nov 23 2008, 03:54 PM Post #126
Legitimist Posts: 12,945 Group: Admin Member #19 Joined: January 13, 2004	Ah, interesting. Would you tell us if such roles existed in our game, or is anything fair game, so to speak?



East Anarx	Nov 23 2008, 04:29 PM Post #127
Anarchitect Posts: 4,788 Group: Multi Member #210 Joined: January 16, 2006	Romanus Diogenes Nov 23 2008, 03:54 PM Ah, interesting. Would you tell us if such roles existed in our game, or is anything fair game, so to speak? Please don't tell us. It's more fun if we don't know.



Rafzakael	Nov 23 2008, 05:03 PM Post #128
Beelzebub Posts: 377 Group: Members Member #412 Joined: February 8, 2008	Romanus Diogenes Nov 23 2008, 03:54 PM Ah, interesting. Would you tell us if such roles existed in our game, or is anything fair game, so to speak? Did I tell you about the SK in NSWR Mafia? ;)



Rhadamanthus	Nov 23 2008, 05:10 PM Post #129
Legitimist Posts: 12,945 Group: Admin Member #19 Joined: January 13, 2004	No, I guess you didn't :lol: This should be interesting.



Telosan	Nov 23 2008, 08:44 PM Post #130
The Foremost Intellectual Badass Posts: 3,893 Group: Map Makers Member #445 Joined: May 27, 2008	You won't tell us if there's any masons, but what about a cult? Did we decide not to do that?



Rafzakael	Nov 24 2008, 02:44 AM Post #131
Beelzebub Posts: 377 Group: Members Member #412 Joined: February 8, 2008	Telosan Nov 23 2008, 08:44 PM You won't tell us if there's any masons, but what about a cult? Did we decide not to do that? Cults don't work well in games smaller than 20 people, but there's always a chance. Also, there's the first no lynch. Enjoy it, scum.



Rhadamanthus	Nov 24 2008, 09:27 AM Post #132
Legitimist Posts: 12,945 Group: Admin Member #19 Joined: January 13, 2004	Okay Raf, I made your argument, in game, that a no lynch benefits the mafia. Clearly I didn't make it very well, because I ended up being convinced of the alternate argument that we are likely to kill an innocent the first round, so we would most likely help the mafia. So here is the thing: you clearly think that counter-argument is wrong, but I don't understand why it is wrong (which is why I switched my vote). If you don't want to answer that while the game is going on, that's understandable. Also, I just realized that maybe I'm not supposed to be in this thread since I'm alive :shy:



Rafzakael	Nov 24 2008, 12:55 PM Post #133
Beelzebub Posts: 377 Group: Members Member #412 Joined: February 8, 2008	If everyone votes no lynch, the day ends immediately, discussion stops, and no mafiates die. Sure, there's a chance that the cop will turn up a scumbag, but the chances that he'll be able to turn it into a lynch are quite slim. Pushing hard for a lynch on day 2, with little or no reason, is going to be scummier than usual. A roleclaim is just stupid, as it either puts him straight in the line of fire (He can hope that the Doc can protect him, but odds are that the mafia will get the Doc before the Cop can find all the scum.), or will lead to him getting lynched for a seemingly false roleclaim. Admittedly, the dynamics here may be different from the games I usually play. EDIT: To restate this more clearly: Without being able to see people directly, discussion and voting is the only way the average townie can root out the scum. Anything that shortens discussion without killing a supposed mafiate is inherently bad for the town. Edited by Rafzakael, Nov 24 2008, 12:57 PM.



Tristan da Cunha	Nov 24 2008, 01:11 PM Post #134
Science and Industry Posts: 6,792 Group: Veterans Member #86 Joined: November 1, 2004	Rafzakael Nov 24 2008, 12:55 PM Without being able to see people directly, discussion and voting is the only way the average townie can root out the scum. Anything that shortens discussion without killing a supposed mafiate is inherently bad for the town. OOC: Anything that shortens the discussion (like 9 consecutive "No One" votes) helps the mafia. However, a protracted lynch vote does not necessarily result in a lynching because people can tactically withdraw their votes toward the end of the day. Thus, evidence on voting patterns can be gathered without lynching a townie. However in our case we ended the day way too quickly.



New Harumf	Nov 24 2008, 01:13 PM Post #135
Bloodthirsty Unicorn Posts: 9,638 Group: Forum Mods Member #177 Joined: October 8, 2005	Tristan da Cunha Nov 24 2008, 01:11 PM Rafzakael Nov 24 2008, 12:55 PM Without being able to see people directly, discussion and voting is the only way the average townie can root out the scum. Anything that shortens discussion without killing a supposed mafiate is inherently bad for the town. OOC: Anything that shortens the discussion (like 9 consecutive "No One" votes) helps the mafia. However, a protracted lynch vote does not necessarily result in a lynching because people can tactically withdraw their votes toward the end of the day. Thus, evidence on voting patterns can be gathered without lynching a townie. However in our case we ended the day way too quickly. I agree, but I'm not supposed to be writing here.



Telosan	Nov 25 2008, 07:12 AM Post #136
The Foremost Intellectual Badass Posts: 3,893 Group: Map Makers Member #445 Joined: May 27, 2008	Quote: Sorry I wasn't here to tally the votes, but the day ended with Allesandra's post. I hope that the page and a half of discussion was worth the mafia getting an unretributed kill. If the day ended so early, what about all the posts that were made after? Are they considered unsaid, or carried over to the next day? Edited by Telosan, Nov 25 2008, 07:12 AM.



Draxis	Nov 25 2008, 07:16 AM Post #137
Captain Posts: 1,356 Group: Map Makers Member #271 Joined: August 20, 2006	Telosan Nov 25 2008, 07:12 AM Quote: Sorry I wasn't here to tally the votes, but the day ended with Allesandra's post. I hope that the page and a half of discussion was worth the mafia getting an unretributed kill. If the day ended so early, what about all the posts that were made after? Are they considered unsaid, or carried over to the next day? I believe it just means that the votes don't exist. Though I did find your post ironic considering your actions that got you lynched in the last game.



Telosan	Nov 25 2008, 02:40 PM Post #138
The Foremost Intellectual Badass Posts: 3,893 Group: Map Makers Member #445 Joined: May 27, 2008	I had thought the last game doesn't count towards anything in this game. RPing makes everything different, too.



Draxis	Nov 25 2008, 06:45 PM Post #139
Captain Posts: 1,356 Group: Map Makers Member #271 Joined: August 20, 2006	Telosan Nov 25 2008, 02:40 PM I had thought the last game doesn't count towards anything in this game. RPing makes everything different, too. I'm just saying it is ironic. Yes the last games actions do not count towards this game, BUT I can consider the irony of you telling someone off for vote flipping.



Telosan	Nov 25 2008, 07:48 PM Post #140
The Foremost Intellectual Badass Posts: 3,893 Group: Map Makers Member #445 Joined: May 27, 2008	:lol: Now I see your point. Well, I wouldn't want someone to make the same mistake I did now would I?



Rhadamanthus	Dec 2 2008, 08:39 PM Post #141
Legitimist Posts: 12,945 Group: Admin Member #19 Joined: January 13, 2004	Well damn... I was hoping to go 2/2 on Mafia games, but I guess that was not to be :lol: And now my information is useless :(



Telosan	Dec 8 2008, 05:17 PM Post #142
The Foremost Intellectual Badass Posts: 3,893 Group: Map Makers Member #445 Joined: May 27, 2008	Hmm. TC and RD were last mafia of last game. Now they're the first down. TC's mafia! See? It's good to listen to me. :D ...occasionally anyway... :gnarkgnark:



Tristan da Cunha	Dec 8 2008, 05:32 PM Post #143
Science and Industry Posts: 6,792 Group: Veterans Member #86 Joined: November 1, 2004	Hello RD. Let's order some pizzas and wings for this dead people "shindig".



Rhadamanthus	Dec 8 2008, 06:02 PM Post #144
Legitimist Posts: 12,945 Group: Admin Member #19 Joined: January 13, 2004	Excellent plan; does Papa Johns deliver?



lebowski2123	Dec 8 2008, 06:03 PM Post #145
Resident? Posts: 1,535 Group: Members Member #257 Joined: July 22, 2006	Romanus Diogenes Dec 8 2008, 06:02 PM Excellent plan; does Papa Johns deliver? That's awesome :lol: .



Tristan da Cunha	Dec 8 2008, 07:42 PM Post #146
Science and Industry Posts: 6,792 Group: Veterans Member #86 Joined: November 1, 2004	DO NOT click the following as it may contain a possible game spoiler. This is only OOC discussion for dead people. If you click the following and you aren't dead then you are a dishonest bastard. DO NOT CLICK Spoiler: click to toggle Fucker I told you not to click this! DO NOT CLICK Spoiler: click to toggle You are truly degenerate. Please don't click the next one... DO NOT CLICK Spoiler: click to toggle It would seem everyone who voted to lynch me have been absolved of guilt :(



Telosan	Dec 8 2008, 08:15 PM Post #147
The Foremost Intellectual Badass Posts: 3,893 Group: Map Makers Member #445 Joined: May 27, 2008	:lol: I hit each spoiler before I even saw the message at the top of your post.



Tristan da Cunha	Dec 8 2008, 09:26 PM Post #148
Science and Industry Posts: 6,792 Group: Veterans Member #86 Joined: November 1, 2004	:angry: :lol:



Rhadamanthus	Dec 8 2008, 09:31 PM Post #149
Legitimist Posts: 12,945 Group: Admin Member #19 Joined: January 13, 2004	So does that make Telo a cheater? :evil: :P



East Anarx	Dec 8 2008, 10:55 PM Post #150
Anarchitect Posts: 4,788 Group: Multi Member #210 Joined: January 16, 2006	I'm so tempted to click those little blue bars... So tempted...


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