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| Topic Started: Aug 29 2008, 05:50 PM (577 Views) | |
| Porcu | Aug 29 2008, 05:50 PM Post #1 |
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"Work is the curse of the drinking classes."
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a G.I.L.F. simply put...McCain has solidified my support :lol: |
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| A.Q. | Aug 29 2008, 05:55 PM Post #2 |
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She was a very good choice. Still, between Obama and McCain (who have always been my favorites) I'm still goin for Obama. |
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| Rhadamanthus | Aug 29 2008, 05:58 PM Post #3 |
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Palin seems ok; she had good words for Ron Paul, which gets points. OTOH, I despise Joe Biden. |
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| Porcu | Aug 29 2008, 06:01 PM Post #4 |
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"Work is the curse of the drinking classes."
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Sure she's a great pick but I am most shocked at the fact that she is as attractive as she is at 44 and after 5 children. That's the reason I started this entire thread in the first place! :P But sure, if you all want to turn this into an intellectual discussion be my guests :D |
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| Tristan da Cunha | Aug 29 2008, 06:15 PM Post #5 |
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A woman possibly ascending to such high office in the republic is very immoral indeed, but to her credit this one woman is better than Obama and Biden put together. I'm a two-issue voter (guns and the Balkans); I might have to try and make the best out of a very bad situation and vote for this McCain-Palin ticket.
Edited by Tristan da Cunha, Aug 29 2008, 06:19 PM.
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| Kasnyia | Aug 29 2008, 07:16 PM Post #6 |
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typical. Anyways, I want Russian ultra-nationalist terrorists from Kazakhstan to take over air force one while Palin is in Washington and McCain is onboard. Then the conspiracy shall be complete. |
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| Quaon | Aug 29 2008, 07:27 PM Post #7 |
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A Prince Amoung Men-Shoot First and Ask Questions Later
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...is not qualified to be President. Both of the major Presidential candidates unfortunately have a good chance that they might die in office. They need good VPs. Obama made a good choice. McCain, on the other hand, may have just thrown the Presidency away. |
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| Rhadamanthus | Aug 29 2008, 07:44 PM Post #8 |
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Kas: Great post! Quaon: I disagree with you on both Palin and Biden, and find the idea of a Biden presidency generally horrifying as well as morally offensive. Edited by Rhadamanthus, Aug 29 2008, 07:44 PM.
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| Quaon | Aug 29 2008, 07:59 PM Post #9 |
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Could you please explain what exactly you find so appalling about Joe Biden? He seems to be a good man, and a brave man at that, dealing with the death of his wife and daughter with courage and dignity. He's experienced, and knowing people who know him vaguely, I can say that from what I've heard, he's a good guy. |
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| Rhadamanthus | Aug 29 2008, 08:23 PM Post #10 |
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((Sorry, I wrote this response once, but accidently clicked on a link and lost my post, so this is going to be truncated. Forgive me for that)) Mostly, his foreign policy. This is deathly important to me for two reasons: this is the area in which he is supposed to most support and influence the Obama ticket, and because I hate McCain's foreign policy but Biden makes that a toss-up. Joe Biden is just as belligerent and Russophobic as John McCain, seeking to confront Russia over a fight that is none of our business, and which could very well create great danger. He was also a major supporter of our terrible Balkans policy, and advocated putting all Serbs in, to use his words, "Nazi-style concentration camps." He is a strong interventionist, so while he criticizes the Iraq War after initially voting in favor of it, his foreign policy is just more of the same CFR-type crap that Americans are sick of. Oh and to add to that first point, he's among the major supporters of expanding NATO membership to Georgia. So yeah, as far as I'm concerned he's frightening for the same reasons McCain is. There are other reasons I disagree with his policies, like gun rights and economics, but I don't despise him for those policies though I oppose him. But the foreign policy stuff, (of which I've only sampled, since as I said, I lost my original post) he's a deal breaker for me, as bad as McCain or worse. |
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| Tristan da Cunha | Aug 29 2008, 08:24 PM Post #11 |
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Joseph Stalin notably dealt with the deaths of his wife and children with "courage" and "dignity." As Abraham Lincoln said, "Nearly all men can stand the test of adversity, but if you really want to test a man's character, give him power." Now, I'm not comparing Joe Biden with Uncle Joe Stalin, but I just want to point out that your judgment is remarkably incomplete and fallacious. Btw, all of Joe Biden's statements and political positions indicate that he is a warmonger and genocidal maniac. |
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| Tristan da Cunha | Aug 29 2008, 08:27 PM Post #12 |
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In addition to this Joe Biden strongly supported the invasion of Iraq in 2003, and today supports a unilateral American armed invasion of Sudan. |
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| Kasnyia | Aug 29 2008, 10:08 PM Post #13 |
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*bows* I'm here all week. :lol: |
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| NRE | Aug 29 2008, 10:09 PM Post #14 |
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I've personally chosen to go democrat, both in my voting style this year as well as perhaps declaring myself a party member. May the rise to my own presidency begin ^^ Oh and yeah I agree for a woman her age, she's not bad looking, McCain could have done worse, like say...oh I dunno....his wife for instance :P Edited by NRE, Aug 29 2008, 10:11 PM.
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| Kasnyia | Aug 29 2008, 10:16 PM Post #15 |
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His wife doesn't exist. She's one of the two escaped women from Death Becomes Her. |
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| East Anarx | Aug 30 2008, 12:18 AM Post #16 |
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*vomits* |
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| Sedulius | Aug 30 2008, 01:56 AM Post #17 |
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She used to be Miss Alaska. I jumped for joy when I first heard this news. McCain has it in the bag. Obama did the stupidest pick possible with Biden. Yes, pick a guy who has outright said you aren't ready to be president and still stands by his statement even though he is VP nominee. Idiot. |
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| lebowski2123 | Aug 30 2008, 08:51 AM Post #18 |
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I'm just sad there isn't a single mainstream conservative candidate in this race. I was hoping McCain would choose Mitt Romney as a VP, but it would appear that he has sold his integrity in order to blatantly steal feminist voters who feel scorned by the Hillary loss. In short, I'm not a fan of the Palin. However, as RD seems to agree, Joe Biden is a menace, and his presence on the ticket alone ensures that I'll be voting Republican. |
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| New Harumf | Aug 30 2008, 09:21 AM Post #19 |
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I think it is clear that the McCain-Palin ticket really represents change for Washington, and watch how Palin wipes up the floor with Biden in the VEEP debate. In her short time in politics she has already left a string of bodies that have opposed her. Bold choice; bold woman. Osama Obama has totally discredited his "change" message by selecting Biden, the single most inside Washington insider of all insiders! I cannot vote for any polititian from the South Side of Chicago - corrupt by definition. Too many senators on the Dem ticket too! |
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| Alberto | Aug 30 2008, 09:42 AM Post #20 |
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Sarah Palin is a convinced anti-abortionist, is for death penalty and is convinced of the necessity of continuing teh engagement in Iraq. I'm not enthusiastic with her . |
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| Quaon | Aug 30 2008, 01:02 PM Post #21 |
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She wasn't Miss Alaska. She was the beauty queen for her local area, not Miss Alaska. NH, this is a woman who would like to see the right for you to love the person you love outlawed. She has no real experience whatsoever, and considering that McCain has the unfortunate possiblity of dying in office, I do not trust this woman with the Presidency for a second. On everything but the death penalty, I agree with you. I gotta say, I really think come November you guys are gonna be dissapointed. But seriously, nobody anyone on the interwebs has explained to me how Sarah Palin is qualified to be President. Someone explain this to me. Please. |
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| Tristan da Cunha | Aug 30 2008, 02:13 PM Post #22 |
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Her qualifications are litany. She's anti-abortion, anti-gay marriage, pro-gun, pro-traditional conservative values. She expressed support for Pat Buchanan back in the 90s, and Pat Buchanan endorses her today. Note that Pat Buchanan is the greatest living American political figure. She did fine as governor of Alaska (though her successes there should be largely attributed to the recent boom in energy prices rather than the efforts of any one person, whether Sarah Palin or anyone else)
Oh c'mon, that's ridiculous. Don't believe the ridiculous media hype that "experience" counts for anything whatsoever - whether that hype is coming from John McCain or Barack Obama. The average American voter has an exceedingly short attention span, is appalingly ignorant, completely immoral, and therefore thinks that "experience" means something in their candidates. Fact: Experience means jack shit. Actually, it's probably the case that the less experience a politician has with the CFR, K Street - i.e. the neoliberal-neoconservative Washington establishment - the better. George W. Bush was an Experienced governor of the second largest state and his cabinet was packed with Experienced "Experts" who have been in the highest levels of government and highest echelons of geopolitics since the 1960s. Now just look at where all that Experience got us in the past 8 years. In the past 8 years, this dear country of ours has been driven off a cliff by the Highly Experienced People in charge. Donald Rumsfeld was Experienced. Here was a guy who was elected to public office in the 1960s and was the Secretary of Defense for President Gerald Ford, before becoming SecDef again in 2000. Dick Cheney was Experienced. Here was a guy who had been in the House of Reprsentatives and in the staffs of multiple Presidential Administrations, before becoming VP in 2000. Joe Biden was Experienced. Here was a guy who apprenticed in the art of warmongering and mass murdering by working tirelessly on behalf of Bill Clinton's firebombing campaigns in Europe, Asia, and Africa in the 90s, before leading the war effort against Iraq and now Sudan in the 2000s. McCain was Experienced. He is basically the Republican identical twin of Joe Biden. Sarah Palin - who was the mayor of a 7,000-head town and governor of Seward's Folly: VERY inexperienced compared to all the incompetent nincompoops listed above. As you can clearly see: Experience means jack shit. Experience is the LAST thing anyone in Washington DC needs these days. Palin would make a better president than Obama, Biden, AND McCain. Edited by Tristan da Cunha, Aug 30 2008, 05:58 PM.
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| Alberto | Aug 31 2008, 06:11 AM Post #23 |
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Probably America and Italy have in commun the worst political class of this world . :dry: |
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| New Harumf | Aug 31 2008, 09:26 AM Post #24 |
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...as for her opposition to gay marriage, so what. Until the Federal Courts recognise gay marriage for federal benefits is doesn't mean jack shit. She signed a bill giving domestic partnership benefits to Alaska state employees, she does NOT want to dictate who can love whom. As for experience . . . . . the less DC experience, the better. I'd rather have someone with a record of fighting corruption and dishonest politics than any other qualification (and remember, not once has Obama stood up against corruption - he was a pawn of the Daily machine in Chicago politics for crying out loud!). |
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| Union | Aug 31 2008, 10:06 AM Post #25 |
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She's under investigation for corruption herself. |
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