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A Meeting of the Serpentine Pact
Topic Started: Aug 11 2008, 09:37 PM (1,003 Views)
Ukabanea
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Menhad
Aug 20 2008, 06:23 PM
Ukabanea
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ah yeah... i don't much remember mehad being invited...
OOC: Thus the message...
yeah but...oh fuck it
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Ulgania
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OOC: If you guys need an OOC Comments topic... yeah. Anyway...

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"It is true that Paradise is one of the few remaining great military forces, but as it stands the WMD is working against other pacts, much like this one. The Shanghai Pact is, as it stands a militant alliance that is facing war with the WMD. Against its muscle, there is little it can do alone. If the Shanghai Pact is defeated, the Dominion would remain to be the only superpower in the region. What happens then, do they move on to consolidate power elsewhere, or just sit and turn into a pumpkin from internal strife? I still hold the position of a formal protest, and possible embargo of goods from Dominion states."

Tres cleared his throat. "Also, in light of things, would there be any interest among the assembled group to try and bring the Pact closer to the Muslim Brotherhood? I understand how religion can be an obstacle to peace all to well, as anyone witnessing the recent war with the Hegemony knows. Still, having stronger relations, extending as far as a mutual defense pact could prove beneficial, albeit necessary to the events unfolding around the world. I know the MB is currently dormant, but all the same its members are still in their own positions of power."
Edited by Ulgania, Aug 20 2008, 09:56 PM.
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Ato Mesfin Seyoum finished his Ciroc drink and had just finished lighting up a cigar when he began to speak.

A war between member nations of the same alliance is a bit peculiar to say the least, but it is the Ministry's position that Ukabanea and Sedulion can resolve this without casting the other off in the name of membership. On that note, the United States would have to vote for the status quo and we would be more than obliged to host a peace conference between Sedulion and Ukabanea.

The concern in regards to the Dominion is grave. However, we must be cautious in dealing with the Dominion. Making the Serpentine Pact into a militaristic organization will only paint a bullseye on all member nations. I believe peaceful protests should be as far as we go in our demonstration of disdain for the Dominion, at least for now. We cannot give them reason to start a war.

I would be very hesitant to support an embargo or trade reductions with Dominion states on the grounds that those are pre-war measures and the Dominion would almost certainly take it the next step. I think we need to open diplomacy with the Dominion and ascertain their true intentions through negotiations.

The United States of Morrocon is NOT opposed to allowing Moslem Brotherhood nations into the Pact or allying with them. The Caliphate of Paradise would be the greatest asset to have in containing Dominion aggression.

But I must reiterate the Iraq War. The Ministry has put this issue off for far too long. The nuking of an enemy fleet NEEDS to be addressed. Since this was a war that involved the coalition of Serpentine Pact nations we should all have had a say in such affairs. Morrocon wants to make this clear, possession and deployment of weapons of mass destruction is a national right; but because of the nature of this conflict and the fact the said deployment was over one of the most important waterways and millions of people are irrefutably affected by the fallout of this device...disciplinary actions need to be taken of some kind.
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Abbot became flustered

"You men do not understand, as it stands now the Dominion is more powerful than any alliance or nuclear warhead could ever become. Should you block their trade they may take this as a hostile action and crush us all and I ask you what’s to stop them? They will not halt their advance simply because you wag a finger at them or throw back some goods they sent to you. Why should they stop simply because a smaller pact tells them to do so regardless of how it looks on the world stage. The fact is that the only way to defeat the Dominion is the collaboration of the nations that still wish to resist its rule but at the moment these nations remain split apart by petty religious differences and hundred year feuds long over. Trust me gentlemen let us be true with ourselves we all live under the shadow of Gassel and not many of us much like it but we must have patience. Outright Dominion opposition is asking for a death sentence and should it come to pass it shall be the end of us all"

Abbot sat back down in his seat.

"Though improved relations with the muslim brotherhood would be a good first step, regardless of how weak it is. I would go as far as joining the two.

"Addressing the Sedulion conflict, the enemies capital is within our grasp the closing days of the war are at hand and their government will soon either surrender or will fall to the unfortunate, and unpredictable, fury of the Emperor himself.

(OOC: we'll talk about the Al Qalaa thing soon, i just wanna heat things up a bit :P)
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“The Abbot has just reminded me of something that I wish to address later,” said Tres. “As there are several observing nations in the Pact, many of which are in attendance today, I would like for the convened group to come up with a set of rules that define observing nations, but that can wait for later. For now, I will say that I fully understand that the might of the Dominion can not go unmatched. While it is a first step, bringing the Brotherhood and the Pact closer is still a step, but now I must ask, is it in the best interests of the Pact to become a counter to the Dominion down the road? I have made my own statements clear, and have made it known that Ulgania is firmly against Dominion expansion, but would only wish to steer the Pact in that direction as well if other parties wished to move it that way.”
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We must reiterate caution. Like the honorable delegate from the Combine, we see the Dominion as an insurmountable force. Direct or foreseen opposition against the Dominion will have consequences. Those consequences are unmistakably annihilation.

We must explore all options of diplomacy and Abbot is correct. It will take the world pitted against the Dominion in order for victory to be achieved. An unprecedented level of global cooperation will be necessary, such as the world has not seen in many years; if at all!

Until such intelligence or current events unveils such compromises of national pettiness, opposition in its current state will only result in destruction for nations standing in the way. To compliment the Ulganian delegate, getting the Moslem Brotherhood; particularly Paradise, on our side is a major step in the right direction. However, before the Caliphate can be of use, we must all recognize a Caliph that is sympathetic to our cause.
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I have remained silent thus far, and I realize Zeelar is not formally a member of any international organization or organism, the Serpentine Pact withstanding in that. However, I would like to say that if you were to choose a pretender to the seat of the Caliphate, you could inadverently draw yourself into a trans-Islamic war.

And I am sure that the Dominion would not mind that sort of infighting. In fact, they would probably encourage it for the sheer fact that it would weaken us from within. That would make our lands even more ripe for the taking.

Therefore, perhaps only stability in the Caliphate should be seen. We do not need extra bloodshed when it can simply be avoided.
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My wording was perhaps misconstrued. What I was aiming for in regards to Paradise was stability. Since there are 2 Caliphs, one official the other not, we may have to get militarily involved for the sake of stability. First, we need to determine which Caliph the Moslem Brotherhood endorses and from there we can begin the diplomatic and military overtures necessary to win them over to our side.
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"There is only one Caliph, and he now resides in Al Qalaa City, under my protection. The Pact must get involved in removing the usurpers, if only to stop states like Alexanderhaven from taking advantage of the situation. Menhad still looms, and whether or not we choose to oppose the Dominion, there are other enemies that Paradise holds in check"
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"I concur with the Al Qalaa'i diplomat (don't exactly know his name) thus far the states of Alexanderhaven and Menhad have been a thorn in our side, either we bring them to our cause or make war on them, in either case there will be bloodshed involved. Though now this begs another question. As many as you know a "new Roman Empire", of which my people fully denounce, has arisen in the middle east and other places on the globe. Now while this isn't exactly an Empire it is more or less a federation, much like the Dominion. Upon its forming which happened no more than a week ago the state of Sedulion had surrendered its sovereignty to this new "Empire", which was formed out of the western Roman kingdom. Now, how can a member of another...alliance, if you will, join our pact while still having loyalties in the New Empire?
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OOC: The empire isn't really supposed to be a federation at this point.
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OOC: yeah i know but thats how Titus has portrayed it to be to the Ukabaneans
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OOC: It's the Emir HERself.
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OOC: oh my b, missed her entering
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OOC: Technically, Sedulion didn't surrender its sovereignty, it simply fulfilled its purpose. It's entire purpose was somewhat to bring back the Roman Empire and unify the Holy Lands. It has helped do so, and is now Syria, a main province. The O.N.S. (Brotherhood of Saint Siadhail) which rules in Syria and Eire still completely maintains its sovereignty, and is the real nation in its own right. It, however, cannot attack from Roman territory without Roman approval. Attacks from anywhere else keep Rome blameless. ^^
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OOC: Considering the insulated nature of this conference, should we act as though we know what just happened with Paradise?

Just remembered it was a 'secret' meeting
Edited by Ulgania, Aug 23 2008, 05:20 PM.
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OOC: i vote that the meeting adjourn for the evening, and by morning time, news will have broken.
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OOC: Enough has happened in general lately to make that viable.

IC:

Weary from several long hours of discussion, Tres cleared his voice and said, "I believe it would be prudent for us to adjourn for the evening. It is late, and I believe there is much for the representatives present to consider."
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OOC: Yaknow am not really sure why people like to respond to my IC comments in OOC but i don't really need to be reminded that the sovereignty of sedulion is still full, this i know. Just wanted to get that across no disrespect ment anyway siadhail u should send a diplomat and we could really get this thing going :evil:
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OOC: Have I obtained observer status? Would I be able to send a diplomat to this meeting?
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As night fell, Emir Al-Shahrazad spent most of the night on a heavily encrypted Qalaa'i defense network, learning of the Caliph's deal with the Dominion. She arose the next morning dreading having to defend it.
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OOC: i would say so, 5/1 margin.
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OOC: As an observer, yes. However if you were to try and be a participating member at this time, things would be very different. I'd like to establish a definition for observing parties later.

IC: Tres was interrupted from his slumber by way of an abrupt knock. "Yes, what is it?" he said with a raised voice.

One of his Middle East advisers came into the room in a hurry with several printouts. Most of them appeared to be online articles, but the one that caught Tres' eye was the intelligence briefing.

"Sir, we have an issue that we feel you have to know, immediately," she said, handing him the briefing. "The Caliphate..." she started to say.

"Which one?" Tres said abruptly.

"The one you endorsed, the legitimate one," she said quickly. "They've brokered a deal with the Dominion."

"What? Let me read this," he said. As she started to walk off he quickly motioned for her. "No, stay. Listen, this non-aggression pact is serious business. If this briefing is true, then I'm sure the Emir of Al Qalaa will have more information than this briefing. And what are these news reports for?" he asked.

"Just some items of interest concerning the state of the war between the Combine and Sedulion. It appears close to ending, and..."

"Wonderful!" Tres said.
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OOC: I consider the War of a Fallen Brother to take place before my expansions and before the formation of the new Rome, so there's a bit of a time conflict here. Wouldn't make sense for me to have actively expanded during the war, nor for Rome to not aid me in lifting the siege of Damascus. Soooo, I think I'm just going to stay out of this thread for now. Wait till things align and make sense.
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As delegates assembled in the conference room, Tres stood at his seat at the end of the table.

"I believe it would be prudent for us to begin. We have much to cover, much of it involving our previous discussion of Paradise concerning its Caliph, as well as the status of Sedulion. However, just this past night events have unfolded that I believe the Emir of Al Qalaa would be wise to address."

OOC: Well, I think we have a few things to talk about ^^
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