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Middle East Map Commentary
Topic Started: Mar 29 2005, 11:39 PM (4,854 Views)
NRE
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If I have to, I'll update this map but NH has made no mention he no longer wishes to mapmaker he so its still being left to him.
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NRE
Jul 1 2009, 04:39 PM
If I have to, I'll update this map but NH has made no mention he no longer wishes to mapmaker he so its still being left to him.
Could I have the chance to become the new map maker?
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Kasnyia
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You're a bit too new for the position. Stick around awhile and then the mods would only be too happy to let you have the position, I'm sure.
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New Map of the Middle East

(Correction to The Sultanate of Al Fahdi)

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Kasnyia
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Technically even that map isn't correct except for your own country. Its been THAT long since its been updated.

Then again, with most of it under occupation, it doesn't matter much.
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Kasnyia
Jul 2 2009, 02:23 PM
Technically even that map isn't correct except for your own country. Its been THAT long since its been updated.

Then again, with most of it under occupation, it doesn't matter much.
I would.. if I could, just get everyone to PM me with a picture of what land they want and I would re-do it.. I actually enjoy drawing these maps.. I was going to edit the map and correct the numbers etc.. but nah, wanted confirmation first, but I'll wait.
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I have decided (on a lazy, dull day) to edit the map of the Middle East.

I have investigated all nations that are active and those that are not and have come to a conclusion of what the current climate of the Middle East looks like, All Grey areas signify the presence of unofficial nations and can be claimed although they are currently home to bedouin tribes.

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Brackets = Previous Nation Number
- (3) - 1 - Cyprus, Nicosia
- (4) - 2 - Morrocon, Addis Abba
- (6) - 3 - The Divided Nations of Georgia Principality of Kartli-Amazi, Sultanate of Kolchis-Lazistan, Independent City of Tlibisi
- (7) - 4 - Nag Ehgoeg, Syntha Prime
- (10) - 5 - Kiensland, Rkayllkisford
- (11) - 6 - The Land of New Harumf, New Zion
- (14) - 7 - Sedulion, Damascus
- (15) - 8 - Paradise, Riyadh
- (18) - 9 - Scythirus, Jihamed
- (20) - 10 - Royal City of Alexanderhaven, Alexanderhaven
- (21) - 11 - The Ottoman Empire, Erzurum
- (22) - 12 - Sutekh-Te-Ankh, Ankhwugaht
- (34) - 13 - Al-Qalaa [Paradise], Al-Qalaa City
- (36) - 14 - Sultanate of Al Fahdi, Ras Al Khaimah

I did not record the nations names for ones that do not exist or no longer in our region but these are the numbers, refer to previous map (Page 4) to find the nations;
2, 5, 8, 9, 12, 13, 16, 17, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 35
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Ulgania
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The Sultanate of Al Fahdi
Jul 3 2009, 09:27 AM
I have decided (on a lazy, dull day) to edit the map of the Middle East.

I have investigated all nations that are active and those that are not and have come to a conclusion of what the current climate of the Middle East looks like, All Grey areas signify the presence of unofficial nations and can be claimed although they are currently home to bedouin tribes.
Well, technically those areas would just be in general anarchy.

However you kinda don't have Zeelar/Sahndaq (which I control). I don't If you look at the African map it makes sense, but Zeelar/Sahndaq are the Middle Eastern portion of my Federation

not that it'll matter after the war I guess
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NRE
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With all due respect to you Al Fahdi, the official map posted has been updated to reflect what the Middle East should look like now (well now as in after the Dominion's occupation). Although certainly taking out dead nation is part of the work, there are other things to consider such as lands Paradise gives to other are given back to Paradise when those nations die (such as the land you occupy should you get bored with our world a leave).

Its not something a player new to our world can pick up on in a day or a week for that matter. That is usually why mapmakers are chosen out of both a willingness to make the map and also from seniority so it is ensured that they understand the region and keep a good notion of who controls what nations.

No worries, stick around long enough (and if the position is open, which it isn't right now) and still show an interested in it and I don't see why you couldn't be considered, as Kas stated previously.
Edited by NRE, Jul 3 2009, 10:42 AM.
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I understand what you both mean. I take a keen interest in the Middle East, and I will not be leaving, I can assure you that. I have played NationStates for around two years now, however, with different nations and different regions. But this region seems to be the best I have experienced in my time on NationStates. I understand that I cannot simply remove dead nations etc. I was just clearing it up, and showed everyone that this map, DESPERATELY needs updating, because obviously it looks completely different to previous nations. My nation represents the Middle Eastern equivalent to European Switzerland, therefore I would hopefully like to help other nations in any way I can with peace, trade, and just general administration work in the Region which I would be more than happy to do.

Salaam Alaykum.
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Nag Ehgoeg
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While NRE is completely correct, I just wanted to thank you for your efforts.

If anyone wants to post unofficial updates to maps in the map commentary threads, then I'd like you to feel free. It's a great way of finding out who would make a good map maker.
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Map of the Sultanate of Al Fahdi

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(A bit small, sorry)

Key;

Red = City
Orange (In Sea) = Oil Stations
Purple (On Land) = Oil Fields
Pink = Bedouin Tribes (Sunni)

1 - Umm Al Quwain
2 - Sharjah
3 - Ras Al Khaimah
4 - Fujairah
5 - Al Akhaal
6 - Khal Arkhal
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The capital of Al Qalaa is Al Qalaa City, located at IRL Kuwait City. :D
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What do we actually do with these lands not controlled then, because, let's face it these nations that are no longer on Nationstates or have moved regions aren't going to come back and STAY COMMITTED! So.. I propose that we deal with this map making issue. I think it's like the most important thing on this forum :)
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The Sultanate of Al Fahdi
Jul 3 2009, 01:51 PM
What do we actually do with these lands not controlled then, because, let's face it these nations that are no longer on Nationstates or have moved regions aren't going to come back and STAY COMMITTED! So.. I propose that we deal with this map making issue. I think it's like the most important thing on this forum :)
Hilarious.

Stick around a few years. People come and go... and come back (and if they're TC, they'll go and come back) and go again.

We give people who let their nations elapse a little leeway because sometimes you forget these things. I've been playing NationStates since 2002 and even I've accidentally let Nag Ehgoeg die.

The blank space isn't a problem either. Be it ruled by weak states of no importance, anarchy or inhabited by wandering Bedouin tribes the point is that it's not important. It's blank creative space to be used as we wish. Better yet, it's seeped in the history of the dead nations who once inhabited it.

What exactly is the issue as you see it?

If you think the map should be updated more often then you should understand that we're in the middle of a shake up and cut the mapmakers some slack (seeing as NRE is doing the job of three people). But I agree with you.
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Kasnyia
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Sent you a PM on the map, NRE.
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Rhadamanthus
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That last version of the map that someone posted removed the Empire completely. Can it please be properly and fully restored to the next update of the map? My nation "The Resplendent Dawn" can be used to represent the Empire, as I still have it active in the region!

I would consider returning to the Middle East map in the next couple months perhaps, if NRE doesn't want it. I think I did a good job with it when I had it, didn't I?
Edited by Rhadamanthus, Jul 8 2009, 03:40 PM.
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Sedulius
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"Sedulion" should be made part of the Roman Empire. Then again, if you're trying to keep the map current with the Dominion, I suppose that would be accurate.

FYI, I've moved Nationstates Sedulion to Europe to be the new Ireland. RP will be done soon enough.

EDIT: However, I have made new considerations into keeping an Order presence in Antioch. I'll keep you informed as I discuss it with RD.
Edited by Sedulius, Jul 9 2009, 09:30 PM.
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Okay, new development. I've OKed it with RD. I've decided to leave a contingent of Hibernian Knights behind in Antioch. Consider it a "colony" of Ireland.

It'll be called the Principality of Antioch, with its capital at Antioch.

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=antiochen is the link to the nation.

I want the land of Antioch as shown in this map:

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Jul 11 2009, 02:38 PM
Okay, new development. I've OKed it with RD. I've decided to leave a contingent of Hibernian Knights behind in Antioch. Consider it a "colony" of Ireland.
I sent you a PM.
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Sedulius
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Alright. Rediscussed. I'll be taking Edessa instead. I'll take the land as shown on that map if that's okay.

It'll be called the County of Edessa with Edessa as the capital.

I'll draft up another nation and post the link here in an edit.

EDIT: Nation link: http://www.nationstates.net/nation=edessae
Edited by Sedulius, Jul 11 2009, 03:20 PM.
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Abnar
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Is there any open coastline on the Red Sea coast or Arabian Peninsula at the current time? The ME and African maps seem to be out of sync.
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Abnar
Jul 14 2009, 09:19 PM
Is there any open coastline on the Red Sea coast or Arabian Peninsula at the current time? The ME and African maps seem to be out of sync.
Yes you are right, the maps are out of sync but not for very much longer. That said there is officially a small track of land between New Harumf and the Roman Empire (3 and 5 on the Middle East Map) that is open. Also though Paradise controls almost the entirety of the Arabian Peninsula he has been known from time to time to get away small tracks of land for new nations. You can PM him and discuss the situation with him. If he agrees just PM me with the details and I'll be happy to add you to the map.
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NRE
Jul 16 2009, 10:18 AM
Yes you are right, the maps are out of sync but not for very much longer. That said there is officially a small track of land between New Harumf and the Roman Empire (3 and 5 on the Middle East Map) that is open. Also though Paradise controls almost the entirety of the Arabian Peninsula he has been known from time to time to get away small tracks of land for new nations. You can PM him and discuss the situation with him. If he agrees just PM me with the details and I'll be happy to add you to the map.
Thanks, although I just got a new home in Europe, so I think I'm set.
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Abnar
Jul 16 2009, 10:22 AM
NRE
Jul 16 2009, 10:18 AM
Yes you are right, the maps are out of sync but not for very much longer. That said there is officially a small track of land between New Harumf and the Roman Empire (3 and 5 on the Middle East Map) that is open. Also though Paradise controls almost the entirety of the Arabian Peninsula he has been known from time to time to get away small tracks of land for new nations. You can PM him and discuss the situation with him. If he agrees just PM me with the details and I'll be happy to add you to the map.
Thanks, although I just got a new home in Europe, so I think I'm set.
Ah ok, I didn't know whether you want to put a second nation here or what. Well the Middle East is always opened if you'd like to. ^^
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