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| Topic Started: Jul 5 2008, 04:17 PM (190 Views) | |
| lebowski2123 | Jul 5 2008, 04:17 PM Post #1 |
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Well it's that time. |
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| Eleytheria-Duo | Jul 5 2008, 07:54 PM Post #2 |
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Resident Bystander
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No other choice for me to choose; Republican. :rolleyes: |
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| Comrade Queen | Jul 5 2008, 08:17 PM Post #3 |
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Comrade Bitchqueen
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Register Republican and vote Libertarian. They hate that. |
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| NRE | Jul 5 2008, 10:33 PM Post #4 |
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Map Tsar and Southern Gentleman
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I'm registered as "unaffiliated" and can therefore go either way when it comes election time. However, during primaries you have to side either dem or rep or (at least in my state/county) you only get two local positions to vote for and you can't vote on your choice for president. |
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| Paradise | Jul 6 2008, 12:42 AM Post #5 |
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Why would you vote Republicans? They keep scrapping your economy... The Democrats during Clinton eliminated the deficit, and Bush scrapped it with his wars and years of bad management. You elected back the Republicans in 2004 so that they could scrap even more the economy, and they have succeeded. Bankruptcy is rampant, your money worths now as much as the canadian dollar (yes, this is an insult), and unemployment is climbing. Your public debt is now so huge, the next governments will have both hands tied. Now you want to elect again the Republicans so that they can finish off your economy? Americans are so masochistic. |
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| A.Q. | Jul 6 2008, 01:21 AM Post #6 |
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I completely agree with this, and would vote Democrat if I were old enough, despite Democratic leadership being politically inept domestically. Republicans have the tactic of taking advantage of the electorates fears, and the Democrats have yet to find a tactic that wins for them. At least as long as I have been political. Obama is changing this, he's going after traditionally Republican evangelicals, and attempting to take former Republican strongholds, like Virginia (ego plug here) |
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| New Harumf | Jul 6 2008, 07:32 AM Post #7 |
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Bloodthirsty Unicorn
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I suggested Republican, however, in my state you only need to declare during primaries by asking for the specific ballot at the time. I know in other states you must be previously declared. Paradise, will you get over the republican bashing and get aware of the history? It was Newt Gindrich's "Contract with America" that turned the economy around during the Clinton years, not Clinton. There was a republican congress that was very active, unlike the current democratic congress. The House of Representatives passes laws and creates budgets, not the president. All the president can do is use the Bully Pulpit to advocate. It has been since the house went democratic that the economy has collapsed, and the house went democratic over the Iraq war, and for no other reason. |
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| Sedulius | Jul 6 2008, 07:34 AM Post #8 |
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Meh, McCain is not so bad. He's a moderate in conservative clothing. Any seasoned politician should see that he's lying through his teeth about how he's conservative and all these sudden change-of-hearts. You can tell, McCain is really bad at lying, and it never ends well for him. I'd rather he wins than Obama, who only seems to have made it as far as he has by pure charisma, while he has no real plan, and hollow promises. I'd rather have someone in office who I know I can predict. The truth is: McCain is not Bush, no matter how much the democrats want to say he is. McCain is simply playing to the conservative crowd lately. While I am disappointed in him for dishonesty, he has not lost my support. I have been supporting his campaign even before it seemed to be failing last summer, and he is still a good man. Dishonesty is part of politics, eh? But he'll probably lose. Too many damn hollow minded college students following Obama blindly, simply because he promises change, yet says nothing about what the change will be. If he wins, I'm gone. He will kill any hopes of having a good military career, and take away our benefits. He will leave Iraq in its unstable state, while still fighting a proxy war through contractors, continuing to lose just as much money as Bush. He will downsize the military, making it weak for the greater wars to come. Obama, in this regard, is either a fool or a genius. He either knows not what he does whatsoever, or he is purposely aiming at weakening this country. Or maybe it is even more sinister than we know... In any case, McCain is in MY best interests, and I believe he is in the US best interests, no matter how much they want to deny it. He says things people do NOT want to hear, which is exactly why he is right. Now, am I a republican or a democrat? I am neither. It is an insult to call me a conservative or a liberal. I find it laughable to find people proud to call themselves such. Politically I am a moderate. If you wanted to label me party-wise, the closest you could get is socialist. And yet policy-wise I am strongly imperialist. You could say I am fully independent of those foolish things called parties, though not the fun type, ahhhhhhhh! Therein lies but one problem of the US. A two party system. Worse, each party is on an extreme end from the other. The US is in constant decay now, and I don't think the system will ever be corrected. Perhaps the economy can be corrected, perhaps the superpower status can be kept, but the idea of what the US stands for will die soon enough, for it has already been being killed slowly by this partisan extremism. Soon enough the US will be a sham of democracy, if it isn't already. I love what the US used to be, but it is not what it was. I can hear my homeland calling. I think Europe, particularly Ireland, will prove a far better place. |
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| The CNNP | Jul 6 2008, 09:43 AM Post #9 |
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Hmmm, I wouldn't give the "contract with America" too much credit. Reaganomics had a bit more to do with it than anything Clinton or the Republican Congress did. I will give them this, they did balance the budget for only the 3rd time in the past 50 years! Although, what we did with the surplus, at least on my part, got lost in translation! I wouldn't say that the current Democratic Congress is inactive, they just haven't done what they were elected to do, despite them saying openly that they weren't going to end the war in Iraq. Spending is still out of control, much to the delight of the Fed and inflation...so I would say yeah, they're working hard at continually screwing the American working man. Democrats - openly screw the public Republicans - screw only when they are not looking At least, this is what is happening now! But you are correct about the presidency. The office really has no true powers, although misreading or lack thereof, has given the office more power than the Constitution allows. Edited by The CNNP, Jul 6 2008, 09:44 AM.
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| lebowski2123 | Jul 6 2008, 10:34 AM Post #10 |
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Unless you pull an Andrew Jackson and just not enforce any laws or decisions by the other branches you don't agree with |
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| The CNNP | Jul 6 2008, 02:07 PM Post #11 |
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If I am not mistaken, he was eventually censored (sp?) for his actions. That being said, I am a huge Andrew Jackson fan...save a few of his perceptions. |
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| Tristan da Cunha | Jul 6 2008, 02:12 PM Post #12 |
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Good God in heaven!! You call yourself a socialist and imperialist. You want to complete the transformation of this country from a Cincinnatian republic into a demonic "welfare-warfare" state. God save the United States from the likes of you! It's actually a very, very fortunate and blessed thing that there is no socialist-imperialist party for you to vote for! So many contradictions in your post. What's so great about Europe? You sure wouldn't be able to wring a "good military career" out of the limp wrists of the EU! I suppose though, even if you're an unemployed mercenary in Europe you'll still be able to leech off the European welfare system - that is, just for the next few years before their economy completely capsizes and they're forced to cut their entitlement programs. Furthermore, Ireland's prospects are especially poor. Ireland's economy has recently hit the gutter. In your unique case it's better to stay in the US and vote Republicrat than to entertain your fanciful ideas about socialism and imperialism! Edited by Tristan da Cunha, Jul 6 2008, 02:21 PM.
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| East Anarx | Jul 6 2008, 02:41 PM Post #13 |
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None Of The Above. |
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| Paradise | Jul 6 2008, 03:41 PM Post #14 |
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Republicans went to war, not democrats. See the facts. I do not know about "Contract with America", but I know that during Clinton's administration deficits were eliminated and that they were back with Bush's administration. |
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| New Harumf | Jul 6 2008, 04:20 PM Post #15 |
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"Only Congress can declare war." So, let's see, the congress was Republican, by a very slim margin. Since then, it has turned democratic and voted for the inflated war budget three times out of three years! You make the same mistake most of the world does, and most Americans do - you give the President too much credit, and you give the President too much blame. A history lesson - after Abe Lincoln until Teddy Roosevelt the Presidents of these United States had NO POWER. They were stripped of all power by congress except for the bare minimum allowed by the constitution, and the Speaker of the House ran the Government. For that entire period, 1865 to about 1912 the Congress was Republican, and there were NO declared foreign wars with the lone exception of the little thingy in Cuba. Since then there have been exactly 2 declared wars, both under democratic congresses and presidents. In addition, Korea, Vietnam, and a bunch of little thingys like all the messes Clinton got us into, all with Dem, Dem governments. Finally, a Republican gets into a war, and suddenly the Democrats are the party of peace???? Scrotum sweat! |
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| The CNNP | Jul 6 2008, 04:33 PM Post #16 |
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<<Pops open a bottle of the Cognac>> 3 cheers for NH! |
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| Paradise | Jul 6 2008, 05:25 PM Post #17 |
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President and his ministers form the executive branch of the government. They are the ones making the budget, although I think it must indeed be approved by the Congress (that would make sense). Democrats were screwed up, they had to vote for because the US were already in Iraq, thanks to the Republicans, and it would have been a humanitarian mistake to leave right now. NH, do not live in the past, live in the present. Right now, the Republicans are not what I would call a competent party. You're actually suffering yourself from this incompetence with your house value and the difficulty to find jobs! I'm not even biased in all this. I despise to death the Liberal party of Canada. |
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| Comrade Queen | Jul 6 2008, 06:35 PM Post #18 |
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Comrade Bitchqueen
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Just a note... I do not believe either the Republican or the Democratic Parties are competent. In fact... SAME SHIT. |
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| Union | Jul 7 2008, 07:42 AM Post #19 |
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Pyrenees Republic
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Actually, NH, I'd say that image is the fault of the Republican machine. |
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