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Why Are Some People So Childish?
Topic Started: Jul 3 2008, 04:33 PM (635 Views)
Comrade Queen
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"I don't like someone in the group and will not discuss it like an adult. Pick me or him, GM."

http://kojiro-james.livejournal.com/474284.html

http://kojiro-james.livejournal.com/474400.html

I haven't seen such behavior since... high school!
Edited by Comrade Queen, Jul 3 2008, 04:54 PM.
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Damn..

Just goes to show that people are inherently douchebags by nature... I'm a douche bag, he's a douche bag... Hell.. You might be a douche bag. :lol:

Well, I wish you the best of luck for getting a job... and will most likely plaster this motherfucker with a shitload of spam if I have the time.
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What brought this all to a boil in the first place?
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Assholes abound. At least he's not your boss!!
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Jul 3 2008, 05:05 PM
What brought this all to a boil in the first place?
I wouldn't know, and I frankly don't care to find out, as I fear the answer will dent my IQ for even hearing it.
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those bastards what was he talking about any way? oh by the way ignatius lovein the avatar :lol:

sucks about the whole job thing man hope ya find one soon
Edited by Ukabanea, Jul 3 2008, 05:25 PM.
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Jul 3 2008, 05:22 PM
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Jul 3 2008, 05:05 PM
What brought this all to a boil in the first place?
I wouldn't know, and I frankly don't care to find out, as I fear the answer will dent my IQ for even hearing it.
Well, to answer the question in your topic title...

Some people just have to have their power trip. They have to have power over someone. All I can really tell you is to ignore them, or do as I have done in the many jobs I have worked requiring regular dealings with assholes...

"Yeah, I took the pennies, but I'd be damned if I took anything else off of them!"
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I think this guy has a point.

Scy... you're a douchebag. And I don't mean that in the nicest possible way. I mean it as an insult.

You do not socialise well with others. You flip out over the smallest things. Frankly, I think bad references and worse interviews are the things stopping you getting employed. You are not suited for any job in the service industry. Or involving people. At all.

You are arrogant and inflexible.

‘Course... I like you. I know that might seem odd for some people to read... but I like Scy. Scy adds a touch of character to the forums, has interesting RPs.

So you want my advice (no? Better stop reading now then): apologise.

I imagine the situation is something like this:

Steve gives you lifts to your game night.
You don’t ever thank him. Because, let’s face it, you’re an asshole.
Steve doesn’t show one night. Maybe you’ve pissed him off. Maybe he’s sick or has a legit reason.
You take it personally and over-react. As you do with every situation.
Steve either complains to Eric or Eric decides to get on his high horse (Eric seems like a self righteous son of a bitch).
Eric sends you this bitchy e-mail.

Apologise to Steve and get him to have a word with Rich. Explain that you know that you don’t come across as the friendliest of people but you’re willing to work on your issues but that Eric is the one being an unreasonable diva over this – you’re willing to act like a responsible adult and make changes, does the group really want someone throwing a childish tantrum rather than someone who’s not perfect but is willing to change?

On the job front... seriously... don’t waste your time on jobs involving people skills. I don’t care if you think that you can act differently when you’re at work... you can’t. At least, not enough. Some part of the asshole that is you will shine through and ruin your chances. A job not involving people is what you need – and you’ve got a good chance of getting those.

Scy... It is a pleasure to RP with you here. If you were local to me, I’d be happy to game with you. But really... you ARE a rude little asshole, you ARE lucky anybody gives you a ride to game night, and (while you try not to) you DO sponge off other people.

You’re perfectly likable and you’re trying to earn money – it’s not like you’re intolerable scum. But this Eric hasn’t said anything about you that doesn’t seem to be true.


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Tristan da Cunha
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Nag, you should become a psychiatrist. You are much more competent than the Jews.
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Nag Win.
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Jul 3 2008, 07:15 PM
Nag Win.
as always
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Nag Ehgoeg
Jul 3 2008, 06:32 PM
I think this guy has a point.

Scy... you're a douchebag. And I don't mean that in the nicest possible way. I mean it as an insult.

You do not socialise well with others. You flip out over the smallest things. Frankly, I think bad references and worse interviews are the things stopping you getting employed. You are not suited for any job in the service industry. Or involving people. At all.

You are arrogant and inflexible.

‘Course... I like you. I know that might seem odd for some people to read... but I like Scy. Scy adds a touch of character to the forums, has interesting RPs.

So you want my advice (no? Better stop reading now then): apologise.

I imagine the situation is something like this:

Steve gives you lifts to your game night.
You don’t ever thank him. Because, let’s face it, you’re an asshole.
Steve doesn’t show one night. Maybe you’ve pissed him off. Maybe he’s sick or has a legit reason.
You take it personally and over-react. As you do with every situation.
Steve either complains to Eric or Eric decides to get on his high horse (Eric seems like a self righteous son of a bitch).
Eric sends you this bitchy e-mail.

Apologise to Steve and get him to have a word with Rich. Explain that you know that you don’t come across as the friendliest of people but you’re willing to work on your issues but that Eric is the one being an unreasonable diva over this – you’re willing to act like a responsible adult and make changes, does the group really want someone throwing a childish tantrum rather than someone who’s not perfect but is willing to change?
And Nag shows his ignorance of the issues and channels Eric.

I did thank Steve for the rides. Frequently. Just because Eric didn't hear them because he's never rode with us doesn't mean they didn't happen. Furthermore, I've been very civil at every game we had. I role played my characters, rolled my dice, chatted occasionally on the sidelines about movies or books or whatever. Aside from the casual swearing that one lets loose when in leisurely activities (such as "fuckin' awesome" or variants thereof) with friends, I've been a perfect gentleman.

Furthermore, when I emailed the group on the night for an explanation of why I wasn't picked up, while grumpy, I attacked no one in particular at all. I even mentioned the possibility of wondering whether Steve got in a car accident. He was able to answer hours later that he was fine and he just had a crisis at work and should have notified everyone when he didn't. I expressed my relief that he was okay.

I owe no apologies. Eric is simply a self-righteous douche with a stick up his ass.

Furthermore, I've had very civil interviews. And it's not just me that can't get work. My mother comes home from her shitty part time job with stories about mothers coming through her aisle talking about how their 20-something children can't find work either. Ergo, this implies the local economy and nothing I've done myself.

Also, I have great references. My previous boss stated I was one of the best workers she ever had. And she was a great manager. I was not the only employee that quit when she was fired. That Burger King had to refill a lot of positions afterward.

So Nag not win. Nag fail.

So kindly go fuck yourself.
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Jul 3 2008, 08:43 PM
Nag Ehgoeg
Jul 3 2008, 06:32 PM
I think this guy has a point.

Scy... you're a douchebag. And I don't mean that in the nicest possible way. I mean it as an insult.

You do not socialise well with others. You flip out over the smallest things. Frankly, I think bad references and worse interviews are the things stopping you getting employed. You are not suited for any job in the service industry. Or involving people. At all.

You are arrogant and inflexible.

‘Course... I like you. I know that might seem odd for some people to read... but I like Scy. Scy adds a touch of character to the forums, has interesting RPs.

So you want my advice (no? Better stop reading now then): apologise.

I imagine the situation is something like this:

Steve gives you lifts to your game night.
You don’t ever thank him. Because, let’s face it, you’re an asshole.
Steve doesn’t show one night. Maybe you’ve pissed him off. Maybe he’s sick or has a legit reason.
You take it personally and over-react. As you do with every situation.
Steve either complains to Eric or Eric decides to get on his high horse (Eric seems like a self righteous son of a bitch).
Eric sends you this bitchy e-mail.

Apologise to Steve and get him to have a word with Rich. Explain that you know that you don’t come across as the friendliest of people but you’re willing to work on your issues but that Eric is the one being an unreasonable diva over this – you’re willing to act like a responsible adult and make changes, does the group really want someone throwing a childish tantrum rather than someone who’s not perfect but is willing to change?
And Nag shows his ignorance of the issues and channels Eric.

I did thank Steve for the rides. Frequently. Just because Eric didn't hear them because he's never rode with us doesn't mean they didn't happen. Furthermore, I've been very civil at every game we had. I role played my characters, rolled my dice, chatted occasionally on the sidelines about movies or books or whatever. Aside from the casual swearing that one lets loose when in leisurely activities (such as "fuckin' awesome" or variants thereof) with friends, I've been a perfect gentleman.

Furthermore, when I emailed the group on the night for an explanation of why I wasn't picked up, while grumpy, I attacked no one in particular at all. I even mentioned the possibility of wondering whether Steve got in a car accident. He was able to answer hours later that he was fine and he just had a crisis at work and should have notified everyone when he didn't. I expressed my relief that he was okay.

I owe no apologies. Eric is simply a self-righteous douche with a stick up his ass.

Furthermore, I've had very civil interviews. And it's not just me that can't get work. My mother comes home from her shitty part time job with stories about mothers coming through her aisle talking about how their 20-something children can't find work either. Ergo, this implies the local economy and nothing I've done myself.

Also, I have great references. My previous boss stated I was one of the best workers she ever had. And she was a great manager. I was not the only employee that quit when she was fired. That Burger King had to refill a lot of positions afterward.

So Nag not win. Nag fail.

So kindly go fuck yourself.
hhmm he makes a good point, we cant really judge him if we don't know him

perhaps...can nag be wrong??? :o
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It's a high possibility, because the anonymity of the Internets turns everyone into an asshole. Example: 4chan.

I admit I have a temper, always had a temper, but I'm not going to let myself be spoken ill of when it isn't true.
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i know what you mean man but we try our best
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Scy, have you ever considered to become an autonomous worker? That way, you wouldn't have to "search" for a job. You'd be your own boss and decide how much work you want to do. There are numerous sectors where you can work autonomously: finance, construction, repairing computers, private teaching, janitorial services, landscape maintenance, etc.
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Jul 3 2008, 08:43 PM
Nag Ehgoeg
Jul 3 2008, 06:32 PM
I think this guy has a point.

Scy... you're a douchebag. And I don't mean that in the nicest possible way. I mean it as an insult.

You do not socialise well with others. You flip out over the smallest things. Frankly, I think bad references and worse interviews are the things stopping you getting employed. You are not suited for any job in the service industry. Or involving people. At all.

You are arrogant and inflexible.

‘Course... I like you. I know that might seem odd for some people to read... but I like Scy. Scy adds a touch of character to the forums, has interesting RPs.

So you want my advice (no? Better stop reading now then): apologise.

I imagine the situation is something like this:

Steve gives you lifts to your game night.
You don’t ever thank him. Because, let’s face it, you’re an asshole.
Steve doesn’t show one night. Maybe you’ve pissed him off. Maybe he’s sick or has a legit reason.
You take it personally and over-react. As you do with every situation.
Steve either complains to Eric or Eric decides to get on his high horse (Eric seems like a self righteous son of a bitch).
Eric sends you this bitchy e-mail.

Apologise to Steve and get him to have a word with Rich. Explain that you know that you don’t come across as the friendliest of people but you’re willing to work on your issues but that Eric is the one being an unreasonable diva over this – you’re willing to act like a responsible adult and make changes, does the group really want someone throwing a childish tantrum rather than someone who’s not perfect but is willing to change?
And Nag shows his ignorance of the issues and channels Eric.

I did thank Steve for the rides. Frequently. Just because Eric didn't hear them because he's never rode with us doesn't mean they didn't happen. Furthermore, I've been very civil at every game we had. I role played my characters, rolled my dice, chatted occasionally on the sidelines about movies or books or whatever. Aside from the casual swearing that one lets loose when in leisurely activities (such as "fuckin' awesome" or variants thereof) with friends, I've been a perfect gentleman.

Furthermore, when I emailed the group on the night for an explanation of why I wasn't picked up, while grumpy, I attacked no one in particular at all. I even mentioned the possibility of wondering whether Steve got in a car accident. He was able to answer hours later that he was fine and he just had a crisis at work and should have notified everyone when he didn't. I expressed my relief that he was okay.

I owe no apologies. Eric is simply a self-righteous douche with a stick up his ass.

Furthermore, I've had very civil interviews. And it's not just me that can't get work. My mother comes home from her shitty part time job with stories about mothers coming through her aisle talking about how their 20-something children can't find work either. Ergo, this implies the local economy and nothing I've done myself.

Also, I have great references. My previous boss stated I was one of the best workers she ever had. And she was a great manager. I was not the only employee that quit when she was fired. That Burger King had to refill a lot of positions afterward.

So Nag not win. Nag fail.

So kindly go fuck yourself.
Admittedly, I am in no position to offer any advice or counsel because I do not know enough of the situation. Nag and Scy have been here longer than I, so just by the nature of this conversation you 2 have had some forum run-ins before.

The only real advice given the evidence is to ignore those who hate you. As a Latin American youth, I had to put up with a lot in public schools in Memphis. Even as a schoolteacher, I am somewhat powerless when a student puts me on the spot with comments like: "Why are known as a dago?" or my personal favorite, "Can you say 'speak' correctly for me?" - trying to get me to self demean myself. Scy, people in general can be vatos! Sometimes, like in my situation, all you can do is calmly diffuse the situation. Pick and choose your battles.
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Jul 3 2008, 09:17 PM
Scy, have you ever considered to become an autonomous worker? That way, you wouldn't have to "search" for a job. You'd be your own boss and decide how much work you want to do. There are numerous sectors where you can work autonomously: finance, construction, repairing computers, private teaching, janitorial services, landscape maintenance, etc.
illicit pharmaceutical sales, etc.
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Nag is likely dead-on in his analysis.

Scy, you probably twisted your gaming buddies the wrong way with some misplaced comment or joke or behavior, or a series of such comments/behaviors over a long period of time. Something that you did which seemed innocuous and gentlemanly in your mind may have offended and alienated a "normally social" person. (I contrast "normally social" with you based on your self-professed antisocial tendencies) No doubt your intentions were sincere and well, but you might have had difficulty conveying them to others in a social context.

This sort of thing (that is, unintentional alienation of others) happens to the best of us. Perhaps it happens more often in your life, considering your self-described "hatred of the human race," extreme bitterness against your school days, purposeful avoidance of close human contact, and other things you've told us about yourself indicating your social maladjustment. Perhaps you belong to that class of personality that rather easily offends and alienates others without your realizing.

Also, a civil interview does not necessarily mean a successful interview. Much civility in this society is insincere, unfortunately. Furthermore, most interviewers/bosses/HR people are quite capable of wearing a falsely civil demeanor at all times, mainly to avoid an AK-47 office rampage when they give someone the pink slip.

All that said, we all do still love you Scy. Once I get my underground survivalist bunker up and ready, when the wandering refugees in the wasteland outside come knocking on my concrete blast-resistant doors begging for a scrap from my ample stockpile of tinned beans and spam, I'd turn away a lot of people before I turn you away.
Edited by Tristan da Cunha, Jul 3 2008, 10:55 PM.
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Because of my of lack background knowledge on this event I will offer no input.

That said, I will offer my input on how you are on the forums(I've been here since I was 13, and next week I'll be 17...), and well, my input wouldn't be any different that TC's or Nag's.

You seem to be inflexible, and even arrogant at times.

But you add color to this forum and you are on of the reasons this place has survived the test of time, you have add much more than I have, and you always will.
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I think a number of you would have to spend a day with me to truly know me. I've been told sincerely by those who're my actual friends, and even teachers and doctors I've had that I'm quiet and soft spoken. There've even been those who've called me shy.

Ergo, I know I did nothing out of line, because as it even stands... I rarely speak.

Most of my rants, as it stands, are just that. Rants. I'm venting most of the frustrations that I otherwise don't show with my quiet, stoic nature. Your perceptions of vented frustration cannot argue with the things that I've been told by people who've truly taken the time to know me in person.
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"Quiet", "shy", and "soft spoken" are probably not the most informative descriptors. One may be quiet and shy yet exude an aura of kindheartedness, graciousness, and/or other endearing characteristics. Likewise, another one may be just as quiet and just as shy as the first one, yet exude an aura of distantness, vindictiveness, and/or other such off-putting characteristics. Yet another quiet and shy person may have any combination of such pleasant and unpleasant characteristics in different amounts. These deeper and more definitive thoughts and feelings of course may seep into everyday behavior, no matter how subtle, and make an impact socially even if one is unaware or unintending.
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Now you just seem to be trying to get the last word in.
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Here you go, Scy, take two and call me in the morning.

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Take to increase attention span, creativity, empathy, and to improve general mood.

Temporary side effects may include a feeling of slowing down/speeding up, increased appetite, and coughing.

Long term side effects may include depression, fatness, stupidity, apathy, and harassment by authority figures.
Edited by East Anarx, Jul 4 2008, 01:53 AM.
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Jul 4 2008, 12:17 AM
Now you just seem to be trying to get the last word in.
No, you just have to think about it.
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