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| The Serpentine Pact | |
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| Topic Started: Jun 11 2008, 03:10 PM (1,302 Views) | |
| Alberto | Jun 23 2008, 03:16 AM Post #26 |
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We vote AYE to both . |
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| A.Q. | Jun 23 2008, 04:00 AM Post #27 |
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Al Qalaa votes for the inclusion of Sahndaq and Bactria |
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| Ulgania | Jun 23 2008, 04:42 AM Post #28 |
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When other signatory nations are promoting what amounts to the colonialism of Africa it forces us to question what should be more important, an alliance, or the security of our already dark continent. Also, Ulgania votes aye to Bactria being an observer, as well as aye to Sahndaq's application of membership. Edited by Ulgania, Jun 23 2008, 04:43 AM.
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| The CNNP | Jun 23 2008, 07:43 AM Post #29 |
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In regards to Bactria and Sahndaq; Morrocon votes, AYE to both requests. In response to Ulgania's message: In the course of human events, it is necessary for imperialism to be condemned. For the United States of Morrocon, the decision to rid beloved Mother Africa of colonies is simple. Imperialism is the product of racism. For centuries, Africa has been carved up in the name of glory. It is all a facade. Racism and imperialism go hand in hand. To illustrate my point, in order to successfully colonize an area you have to show your superiority militarily first. Then we get down to the business of authority. In order to effectively subdue the populace, the colonizing power must then isolate the native group and promote nationalism for the occupying power. This in turn generates the feelings and beliefs, false consciously, of inferiority. Colonies equal racism. All colonies must go. The black man of Africa has waited countless centuries for self autonomy. No longer being held as serfs or slaves to the design of their unjust overlords. We find the Scythirian intervention disturbing but cannot simply adopt one singular policy for this on the following grounds: 1. Zolony is being occupied unjustly as a colony, plain and simple. Having defined our stance on colonialism the solution is the immediate withdrawal of the British from Africa. 2. A course has yet to be determined whether or not the Scythirians plan to stay. If they do, then we will mobilize immediately. If not, we should allow the colonizing swine get what is coming to them. |
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| Ukabanea | Jun 23 2008, 09:07 AM Post #30 |
The Resident Evil?....Mayhap?
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The Combine votes for the inclusion of Sahndaq. |
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| Devin Wire | Jun 23 2008, 10:48 AM Post #31 |
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In response to the United States of Morrocon message: The Anarchist Fiefdom of Zeelar has...delayed membership in the Serpentine Pact for the moment. We have much to consider. This is a giant leap forward or backward for our policy, especially when we have often remained neutral in specific conflicts. However, this does not change what amounts to offense. Are you suggesting that Caucasoid people whom dwell on the continent of Africa are racists? Furthermore, are you demanding that we leave? If anything is racism, it is this. |
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| Filo | Jun 23 2008, 12:00 PM Post #32 |
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We Tanks Ukabanea but the observe status is good for us. Be fully integrated in the pact may force us to use force in international realtions and we wish not disobbey to Buddha's teanchings. -- Alkibiades, foreign MInister of Bactria |
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| Deleted User | Jun 23 2008, 12:17 PM Post #33 |
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TO: Much Esteemed Members of the Serpentine Pact FROM: Minister Natalya Sagintayev (Foriegn Relations, Tourism and Basketball) SUBJECT: Joining the Pact After much discussion with his aides and Govoners, Glorious Premier Temirzhon al-Taraz declared Hedgerbanisistan must join the Serpentine Pact. Hedgerbanistan's economy is in full swing and its defense spending is on the rise. Hedgerbanistan hopes joining this alliance will help its relations with the reagional community. -- ns Signed, Premier Temirzhon al-Taraz Minister Natalya Sagintayev |
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| Ulgania | Jun 23 2008, 01:50 PM Post #34 |
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Ulgania votes for Hedgerbanistan's application, and sends its regards to the Premier. EDIT: OOC: Sorry, I meant to say Hedgerbanistan, not TIC... I was looking at your username and spaced about your country's title >_> Edited by Ulgania, Jun 23 2008, 09:19 PM.
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| A.Q. | Jun 23 2008, 05:43 PM Post #35 |
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Al Qalaa votes FOR Hedgerbanistan's inclusion in the Pact. |
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| Ukabanea | Jun 23 2008, 05:44 PM Post #36 |
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The Resident Evil?....Mayhap?
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The Combine votes for Hedgerbanistan's inclusion in the Pact. |
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| The CNNP | Jun 23 2008, 09:12 PM Post #37 |
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OOC: What are your nation's demographics? This is mere propaganda, I am simply rallying the battle cry for COLONIES to either become independent countries or be evacuated and return to local tribal control. I am perverting logical to equivocate racism to colonies. Edited by The CNNP, Jun 23 2008, 09:13 PM.
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| Devin Wire | Jun 24 2008, 01:19 AM Post #38 |
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OOC: Just about half East African, half Caucasian. I realize its propaganda, but you can't convince Zeelari authorities of that =P |
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| Alberto | Jun 24 2008, 05:33 AM Post #39 |
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We vote FOR the adsion to the pact . OOC : So what are we doing for the war of Iraq ? |
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| Filo | Jun 24 2008, 06:56 AM Post #40 |
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Bactria, again, ask the stutus of observer to the serpentine pact |
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| The CNNP | Jun 24 2008, 07:54 AM Post #41 |
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The Anarchist Fiefdom of Zeelar consists of a happy mixture of Swahili and non-Africans. Zeelar has shown its commitment to the democratic ideology of freedom and non-imperialism. Therefore, this does not apply. If the non-African population wins a particular election, then at least you the democratic tradition to justify it. However, the Anarchist Fiefdom of Zeelar is its own sovereign. An independent country. A colony is but a mere possession. A possession that requires outright military conquest, and political subversion of its native populace. That equates into racism. The idea of colonialism requires the teaching of inferiority and superiority of one group over another. In this case, the mother country promotes superiority over the native populace. The Swahili are a proud people, and their rights under God has been trampled. Surely Zeelar can see the folly of imperialism? Zeelar is a democratic, independent nation. African Menhad is an autocratic extension. Caucasoids who dwell in Africa should enjoy their chosen life. However, when Caucasoids, or any racial group for that matter, are coming from another country attempting to subdue the local populace in Africa...that is racism! Menhad is also a proud member of the Middle Eastern community. The Middle East currently has a policy of no colonies, yet they have decided that Africa is a perfect place for a colonial empire...a violation of the libertarian doctrine the proud nation of Zeelar has exemplified time and again. OOC: Is this Caucasian people Arabic or European...not that it will matter because Zeelar is an independent country and I am targeting colonies. I also believe the Swiss-Romans also have a colony. Plus, there are events in Africa that are only going to further this policy. Edited by The CNNP, Jun 24 2008, 07:59 AM.
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| Ukabanea | Jun 24 2008, 08:49 AM Post #42 |
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The Resident Evil?....Mayhap?
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The Combine votes for Bactra's status as an observer in the pact. |
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| Alberto | Jun 24 2008, 10:04 AM Post #43 |
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I guess Bactria is in . |
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| Ulgania | Jun 24 2008, 02:39 PM Post #44 |
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Points can be made over matters of race and colonialism, however other points can be made on the matter of an individuals ties to the land. Many countries expand, and soon after allow its citizens to settle those lands. It does not take long for those people become tied to those lands, and typically after a generation or so become so attached that they would die in its protection. That's where African Menhad is, and as such with such a population is not simply a colony. However, we do not see African Menhad as an independent state either, but we do see it as a hybrid state with powerful connections to Menhad. Ulgania further condems the actions of Scythirus, and will be enacting a trade embargo on it in due time. |
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| Menhad | Jun 24 2008, 04:40 PM Post #45 |
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OOC: I hope you guys know that one of the Three Families is Black, The Natekyas are from Africa. |
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| The CNNP | Jun 24 2008, 04:42 PM Post #46 |
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OOC: Well, in that case Barack Obama will simply play the Uncle Tom card! :D |
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| A.Q. | Jun 24 2008, 06:49 PM Post #47 |
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OOC: well, some of the Emir's best friends are black |
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| Menhad | Jun 24 2008, 07:10 PM Post #48 |
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OOC: They rule Menhad... (The Three Families do, Menhad is rule by three different men.) |
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| Ulgania | Jun 25 2008, 02:00 PM Post #49 |
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OOC: This. I've been defending African Menhad for pretty much that reason. It has a completely equal say (AFAIK) in all of Menhadian politics, the people are treated the same, and again, people are dying by the thousands to defend it. EDIT concerning Al Qalaa's post below this one: Didn't read that one right in the Iraq War thread then. I thought it was just a general bombing campaign from the air, and not involving troops. Edited by Ulgania, Jun 25 2008, 06:17 PM.
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| A.Q. | Jun 25 2008, 06:03 PM Post #50 |
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OOC: and nobody disputes that. I'm pissed IC because they sent soldiers into my country to sabotage my oil fields and my military. It's not a moral issue, it's a military one. under different circumstances, I wouldn't have a problem with Menhad, especially seeing as how he's a cool enough guy OOC. |
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