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| Topic Started: Jun 7 2008, 07:40 PM (346 Views) | |
| Tristan da Cunha | Jun 8 2008, 08:07 PM Post #26 |
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Not only social structures explicitly based on the state concept, but any social structure that is based on any sort of power relationship, will result in these tyrannical results. "Property is theft" -- Proudhon Now, I believe as much as the next man that Proudhon is Antichrist. But he is at least correct in discerning that the enterprising among humanity will never fail to "constantly and consistently strive to enhance its reach, widen its range, and increase its scope," even through violence and theft.
The Bilderbergers would rather quickly be hanged for simply (but not simple) treason. Collusion with foreign powers, on the other hand, is not necessarily treasonous. In fact it can be downright patriotic. If I were a private American citizen of some power and influence, I would not hesitate one second to enter secret negotiations with certain foreign governments with the intent of subverting the current Federal regime, doing damage to many parts of the Constitution, and generally tearing down the rotten structure that is the modern American social-cultural-political system. That is, I would not hesitate to break the Logan Act (which by the way is nothing more than an Orwellian "Alien and Sedition Act") and I don't think any patriotic and serious American would hesitate to do so either. |
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| Ukabanea | Jun 8 2008, 08:27 PM Post #27 |
The Resident Evil?....Mayhap?
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yeah what the hell happened to the other 5 videos? |
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| Comrade Queen | Jun 8 2008, 08:33 PM Post #28 |
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There are plenty of armed Americans in this country that would make such an act unnecessary. And in any case, you described precisely what the Bilderbergs have been doing for a hundred years, but the other way around. |
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| Comrade Queen | Jun 8 2008, 08:35 PM Post #29 |
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Huh? |
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| Ukabanea | Jun 8 2008, 08:51 PM Post #30 |
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The Resident Evil?....Mayhap?
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oh never mind my computer was saying they were down for some reason |
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| The CNNP | Jun 8 2008, 08:53 PM Post #31 |
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I see someone has read up on Ted Turner and John D. Rockefeller's population control. It really is no surprise to me that our "fair and balanced" media hasn't reported on it...the same as they did with the SPP and Ron Paul. It is a shame, that 300+ million Americans are falling for the same ageless tricks. Rome has the best documented case when you purposely inflate the currency, have no border control, and give power to a select few or one! Anyway, I digress! :( |
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| Tristan da Cunha | Jun 8 2008, 09:00 PM Post #32 |
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My greatest fear is that these days, the American people would be too easily divided and conquered, even the armed ones. Many Americans only care about what is in their front yard and back yard, and will only raise a finger to defend that; nothing more. Instead of launching a counterattack against the Bilderbergs, the average armed American, say living in Montana, would just hole up in their house, declare themselves seceded from the Union, and hope the Bilderbergs in faraway Washington DC or New York City don't come bother them. Just the other day I was in a gun shop, overheard a conversation. "The moment the 2nd Amendment is repealed, I'm moving out West and seceding from the Union," said one gun nut in the conversation. A truly patriotic gun nut would've said, "The moment the 2nd Amendment is repealed, I'm moving out East to overthrow the government." |
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| The CNNP | Jun 8 2008, 09:08 PM Post #33 |
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Well, just take a look at how polarized society has become...when I go to Facebook and see people and groups shouting out "I don't care who you vote for, vote Democrat (or Republican)". Houston we have a problem. Karl Marx wrote eloquently about the "false conscientiousness". Then you add Edward Bernay's Propaganda and we have a nice collection a citizens beggin to become corporate employees. |
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| Tristan da Cunha | Jun 8 2008, 09:34 PM Post #34 |
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The fundamental problem is individualism, taken to the ridiculous extremes it has been taken to in this country and culture. Nowadays we have people who sincerely don't give a damn about the society they live in and about other people around them. All people want today is to be left alone to their own devices, and as long as they are left alone, the rest of the world can go to hell for all they care. "To be left alone" is the highest goal of American culture now. People will be happy to get born, live, and die, the whole time "being left alone." But in fact this short sighted mentality, indifference- even ignorance and unawareness of the complex, precious, and very fragile societal structure that sustains them - will only leave those "left-alone" to be manipulated and swept away, bent to the will of extremely malicious and powerful forces whom they cannot possible resist, because they can't even unite their resistance for fear that they will no longer be "left alone" but rather be participating in something greater and noble. And in the end the propserous, but very very fragile societal structure that affords us the tremendous luxury of individualism and selfishness will be used against us by the cunning and the ruthless, like the Bilderbergs. Call me a conspiracy nut but I truly wouldn't be surprised of the Bilderbergs consciously introduced modern individualisms (youth-culture, feminism, etc) to make the common people more self-centered, short-sighted, blinded to the "commonwealth", and thus less likely to band together to fight against great evils. It's as if the Bilderbergs culturally sterilized American masses, rendering it impotent, and completely open to the political and perhaps even military divide and conquer strategy. The Founding Fathers of this country did not build this country on rampant individualism. They built this country intending for it to be run by responsible, dutiful, community-minded people - whose individual choice was not based on a notion of being "left alone" and doing whatever the hell you want - but who would make choices from a rather limited matrix of possible choices constrained by the duty-based and shame-based cultural understanding of 18th century civilization. Given the circumstances of the American Revolution when so many sacrificed their lives and property for a greater and noble cause, how could the Founding Fathers foresee that 200 years later the Americans will make choices from an ever-expanding "palette" of false and stupid choices leading to their own destruction? |
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| Comrade Queen | Jun 8 2008, 11:45 PM Post #35 |
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That's why we need to make those complacent Americans aware of what's happening around them like the protest that I've been posting in this thread. Demonstrations against their heinous acts attract attention, and the more attention that's attracted, the less complacence fills the nation. |
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| Tristan da Cunha | Jun 9 2008, 06:52 AM Post #36 |
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I'm pessimistic about the fitness of the American people to resist. Awareness really isn't enough; a cultural and social sea-change needs to take place. That's because too many Americans have a vested interest in the social system and way of life that the Bilderbergers invented. That is to say, nowadays, Americans prefer the Bilderberger way of life. The middle class materialist ideal and the individualist ideal touted by the Bilderbergers for the last century has lulled Americans. Nowadays Americans are interested in accumulating personal wealth and satisfying their personal pleasures, and pursuing the illusory state of "being left alone". As long as the Bilderbergers are able to supply Americans with economic prosperity, very few Americans would be interested in resisting a system and way of life they themselves believe are beneficial. At this point, even if he sees with his own eyes the acts of the Bilderbergers, the middle class, gainfully employed, materially acquisitive American will merely laugh and prefer to go on with his life as usual. Why would he be interested in overthrowing the globalist Bilderberg system that allows him to enjoy his middle class accoutrements, like his McMansion, cheap "Made in China" electronics, imported cars, etc.? Collaboration with the Bilderbergs is comfortable; resistance is difficult and uncomfortable. The only way to reinstill the spirit of resistance in the American people is to attack the very fundamentals of the corrupt American culture itself - we must attack the American Dream itself. The American Dream - everyone's wish to own a nice 2 storey house out in the suburbs, own multiple shiny new cars, send their children to a high quality suburban school district, to "be left alone" - is the embodiment of the materialist-based social values that the Bilderbergers have indoctrinated into the American people, using the cheapest trick in the book - Shiny New Things - to distract them and render them uninterested in the truth. What we need is to tear down the American Dream. The American Dream is something invented by Bilderberg marketers, and not the Founding Fathers who if alive today would abhor the ruthless and greedy acquisitive "American Dream". Americans need to be able to adopt an utter indifference to the materialistic values imposed upon us by the Bilderbergers. We've seen how Americans can be so attached to, and dependent upon, their riches, their nice home, nice cars, etc. But Americans need to let go of their attachments, because to be attached is to already be ensnared by the Bilderbergers. Only at the point when to lose one's home and one's comfortable middle class life is viewed as no different than to sacrifice everything for a nobler cause, accepting homelessness or hardship in pursuit of an ideal, that is the only time the American people will be able to snap out of their enslavement by the Bilderbergers and finally be able to resist. It was achieved in 1776 when so many gave up so much to pursue something for all time. Sadly it's far more difficult and perhaps even impossible to achieve today. |
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| The CNNP | Jun 9 2008, 07:28 AM Post #37 |
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Rockefeller has already openly admitted that he bankrolled the women's rights movement with the sole purpose of destroying the American family. Being an educator the family is the backbone of a child's educational drive. When I look at the number of kids who are being raised in single-parent homes or worse yet, being raised by uncles, aunts, and grandparents (grandparent)...there is a strong correlation between school performance and such environments. Now this doesn't mean that people raised in single parent homes are doomed, or raised in non-conventional homes, but the deck is stacked against you. Scy, you are right; America needs to WAKE UP to these traitors. But when you have Congressmen and an American public that openly admits they don't care about the Constitution we have an enormous problem. |
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| The CNNP | Jun 9 2008, 06:04 PM Post #38 |
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Here is some food for thought: The institutions that play a central role in money and funding markets – including the main globally active banks and investment banks – need to operate under a unified framework that provides a stronger form of consolidated supervision, with appropriate requirements for capital and liquidity. To complement this, we need to put in place a stronger framework of oversight authority over the critical parts of the payments system – not just the established payments, clearing and settlements systems, but the infrastructure that underpins the decentralized over-the-counter markets. Because of its primary responsibility for the stability of the overall financial system, the Federal Reserve should play a central role in such a framework, working closely with supervisors in the US and in other countries. At present the Fed has broad responsibility for financial stability not matched by direct authority and the consequences of the actions we have taken in this crisis make it more important that we close that gap. Finally, we need a stronger capacity to respond to crises. The Fed has put in place a number of innovative new facilities that have helped ease liquidity strains. We plan to leave these in place until conditions in money and credit markets have improved substantially. Timothy Geithner -New York Federal Reserve Chairman in Monday's Financial Times. So why the need for secrecy? From June 5 until June 8, the world power elite met in Chantilly, Va, a few miles from Dulles International Airport. The Bilderberg group was founded in 1954 by the world's top financial and corporate personalities. The group was so secret, that they do not have an official name. They were named after the Bilderberg Hotel where they held their meeting. Since then, they have met every spring, and every four years, they come to North America. That was until the last three years. For the first time ever, the group met in North America two out of the last three years. The shadowy group started to gain some mainstream media attention in 2006 when Alex Jones was arrested at Canadian customs while traveling to cover the group's meeting in Ottawa. This year, there was a complete media blackout. The only ones who covered the meeting were alternative media. What's wrong with this picture? When the top financial and corporate people of the world are meeting in secret along side the editors of the Washington Post, New York Times and political figures like Mark Sanford, Governor of South Carolina and Henry Paulson Secretary of the Treasury, then something is wrong. Aside from the fact that it is illegal under the Logan Act for elected officials to meet in secret with members of other governments without express permission from the Congress or the President, it is morally objectionable for these political heads and Federal Reserve chairmen to be meeting in secret to decide our futures without our knowledge or consent. Ben Bernanke was videotaped leaving the event three days ago. Paulson is a regular attendee. One day after the meeting ended, Geithner conveniently writes his piece in the Financial Times claiming that the Federal Reserve needs more power, and that the world banking community needs to come under a global regulatory system in order stop financial crisis. Wait a minute! Wasn't it the Federal Reserve (under Alan Greenspan) who set the irresponsible policy of low low interest rates in the post 9/11 America to artificially make the economy sound in the troubled times. This influx of money into the economy went along with another bad monetary policy the Federal Reserve set and that is the lending policies dealing with sub prime mortgages. Just like 1907, when JP Morgan and Co. caused the crash to usher in the passage of the Federal Reserve Act in 1913, and just like 1929 when the Federal Reserve crashed the economy through major currency contraction to gain even more power through the National Banking Act of 1935, the bankers are back again to tell us they need even more power to protect us from their flaud policies. How many times will we fall for it? It really doesn't matter. The majority of the American people have absolutely no idea of the meeting that took place last week. They know who won the Celtics game and which horse came up lame at the Kentucky Derby, but they have no idea that David Rockefeller, a man who in his own autobiography swore to destroy United States sovereignty was in Virginia setting policy for the next year and beyond. Most American people did not read Financial Times this morning either. Even if they did, it would be hard for them to put it into context, because they don't realize that the policies Geithner described were set in stone over the last week. Geithner was not asking the American people for their blessing on a new banking system. He was telling us what was coming, and he was saying you are either with us or against us. As long as the people have no clue as to what's going on behind closed doors, they will never fully understand what is going on out in the open. 1. We will see committees formed on the possibility of a world regulatory system on banking headed by governors from the Federal Reserve banks, members of the Treasury, world bank and more than likely a figure such as Henry Kissinger. 2. We will see the "war on terror" take a dangerous rout into the world of the "white terrorist." This means a crackdown on supposed domestic terrorism probably through the internet. You will see more American Citizens arrested on terror charges. 3. The war on Iran hinges upon whether Iran decides to flood the world with cheap oil undercutting the oil companies of the world. When they do this as they have promised, they will peg their oil to the Euro. This would lead to a collapse of the U.S. economy through a major influx of dumped debt. 4. The oil bubble will more than likely bust. Since prices are largely being driven by "experts" who tell the oil producing nations what they will give them for oil on a particular day, it is likely that they will name a price in the next few months that will be significantly lower than $130 a barrel. At the same time, these people who control the gold market as well will crash the gold bubble. The oil bubble burst will be so devestating to the oil producing nations that in order to keep food on the tables of their peoples, they will have to sell gold they bought at $800 and ounce for $200 or $300 an ounce. 5. All the while, the United States government will be increasing the police state funding so that they can "keep us under control" when the makets are crashed and the oil, gold and food bubbles all go bust. |
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| Comrade Queen | Jun 11 2008, 08:05 PM Post #39 |
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Um... I should point out that the Bilderbergers have been dismantling the Middle Class by corrupting what the American Dream was originally suppose to be and systematically destroying our currency. Look around. Our Middle Class is dying. The Rich-Poor divide is growing dramatically. Soon, if not stopped, we'll just have the Upper Class and the Lower Class. The Middle Class will only be remembered as a thing of the past. The Bilderbergers didn't invent the Middle Class. The Bilderbergers hate the Middle Class. Anyway... the last of the protest footage. |
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| Tristan da Cunha | Jun 11 2008, 10:13 PM Post #40 |
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The American middle class are a tool of the Bilderbergers. Comfortable Middle Class Americans are the lubricant in the Bilderberg machine. The Midde class constantly make the path to their final world domination easier. The middle class does this by encouraging the growth of the globalized economy, and in the process destroy themselves. Americans love buying things, filling their homes with merchandise - all made in the global economy run by the WTO, the IMF, all the other organs of Bilderberg power. The only way to combat the globalized financial system and globalized economy is to quit it forever - we must refuse to indulge our materialistic urges borrowing money through devious financial schemes engineered by the Rothschild and Rockefellers, and then using this ill gotten money to buy more and more from the Rothschild and Rockefeller's own store - the global economy. Yet we are so addicted to the fruits of this global economy that it is nigh impossible to give it up altogether. It will take true moral discipline, and mass action and rejection of American middle class values. No more participation in the global economy, no more participation in the global financial system, no matter how tempting it is. And I say American middle class values because the American type of middle class, endlessly materialistic and thus self-destructive, was entirely invented by the Bilderbergers and their predecessors. Now our middle class is heavily indebted to the Bilderbergs, not only economically but even culturally. We even buy into the so called "American Dream" , a farcical concept invented in the 1930s, a concept that the Founding Fathers of this country would abhor. It is this American Dream that has caused the middle class to fall in the trap that is the Bilderberg's "global economy". What would be the American Dream if not a huge house bought with a bad mortgage, cheap imported merchandise, foreign cars, and the family destroyed by divorce, marital strife, and all the cultural values of individual "happiness" promoted by the Bilderberg Conferece? |
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| The CNNP | Jun 11 2008, 10:38 PM Post #41 |
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I think we can all agree that yes, the Bilderbergers and all their illustrious predecessors play on the middle class. Yes, the middle class to them is the enemy. And yes, they have the middle class digging their own graves, paying for them, while the Bilderbergers are getting them to sign a life insurance policy as the Bilderbergers as the beneficiary. |
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