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The Cerdone Problem
Topic Started: May 19 2008, 04:31 PM (394 Views)
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As Cerdone degenerates into anarchy, and her allies desert her, the question fo what to do with the territory arises. Leaving it without a ToK presence risks allowing Cerdone to survive and threaten the world another day. Hispania would advocate a partition of the nation into member-state operated security zones, until further notice. The nation of Canton Rouge should also be given a fair share of Cerdonian coastline, as compensation for Cerdonian aggression.

Meanwhile, Madrid is set to fall any day now, and the unification of Spain will finally occur. Hispania plans to pen up a ToK Atlantic Naval Projection Base in Ferrol, and feels a similar naval base should be made in the Baltic, to police those seas until peace is true.
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Germany wholeheartedly supports the division and subsequent governance of Cerdone, as chaos will yield only a stronger enemy which we will once again be forced to subjugate in a day far from now.
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The CRQ proposes this division:

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Further, we propose making Canton Rouge a Belgian protectorate, forcing Porcu to cede its African protectorates to the Triune Kingdom and giving Quaon and Germany East Prussia under joint administration.
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"We purpose that Menhad takes command of a larger area, we feel that Quaon and Germany will have to spend more effort on the rebuilding of their countries, and that the Cerdon citizens are more likely to revolt while Germany and Quaon are spending their efforts else where. Also Menhad has more military capability, and will be much more able to suppress rebellion."


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Quaon
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The CRQ will not back away from its claims.

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OOC: Just a suggestion: The Syndicat would be happy to rent out National Security on the cheap to those nations who might need the supplemental men.

Also, I find it odd that, OOC, people object to me annexing some territory to my tiny little nation, but already established and large nations are taking these huge areas.
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Rafzakael
May 19 2008, 05:57 PM
OOC: Just a suggestion: The Syndicat would be happy to rent out National Security on the cheap to those nations who might need the supplemental men.

Also, I find it odd that, OOC, people object to me annexing some territory to my tiny little nation, but already established and large nations are taking these huge areas.

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What territory that you wanted to annex are you referring to?
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Spain [Hispania] advocates the creation of a ToK governered port to patrol the Baltic, outside the control of any one nation. We would also like to advocate similar ports along the Danish Strait, Gibraltar, Ferrol, Iceland, and Sicily.
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May 19 2008, 05:51 PM
"We purpose that Menhad takes command of a larger area, we feel that Quaon and Germany will have to spend more effort on the rebuilding of their countries, and that the Cerdon citizens are more likely to revolt while Germany and Quaon are spending their efforts else where. Also Menhad has more military capability, and will be much more able to suppress rebellion."


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While Germany will not cede its claim to the territorial allocation the CRQ has proposed, it would be willing to offer Menhad a region of joint custody encompassing northern German holdings and southern Menhadian holdings in the spirit of camraderie.

Also, we are in talks with the government of Mircania concerning possession of the area formerly known as the Therusian Enclave, and in the event of our acquiring such territory, we would be more then happy to offer this land area as a jointly administered ToK port and territory.

OOC EDIT: And that my friends, is post #1,000. It's been a pleasure RPing with you all, and I hope to continue my residence here :D .
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May 19 2008, 07:03 PM
Rafzakael
May 19 2008, 05:57 PM
OOC: Just a suggestion: The Syndicat would be happy to rent out National Security on the cheap to those nations who might need the supplemental men.

Also, I find it odd that, OOC, people object to me annexing some territory to my tiny little nation, but already established and large nations are taking these huge areas.

OOC:

What territory that you wanted to annex are you referring to?

OOC: http://z3.invisionfree.com/nationstates/in...?showtopic=5779

Post #19 on the first page. The area is less than half of what Q is proposing he administer from Cerdone. Draxis, 'Bowski, and NRE via PM all mentioned that it was apparently a lot of land.

EDIT: I should mention that the planned expansion has been since modified, so as not to offend Hungary or Helmetia.
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OOC:

Couple things. First I think your proposed expansion looked big relatively because of its size in proportion to your existing country. Some don't like that. Second, we don't know what NRE would say about this proposed carving up. I imagine he might not want these to be permanent. Third thing to consider: major powers of the region carving up their defeated rival... not a place to look for fairness, you know?

Of course, I seem to have missed your expansion when you proposed it so I'm probably not much of a help :lol:
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OOC: A little compromise: If any nation requested land in Scandinavia, they would be given it, but otherwise it would be under the control of the parent nations.

So we'd need a new type of legend. Maybe just keeping it gray with the national numbers on it, and no definitive borders marked out, or something.

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Quaon
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OOC: I want to directly annex at least Cerdoville.
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Hungary is right with this, but asks support against Austro-bayern proditory attacl.

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Quaon
May 19 2008, 05:53 PM
OOC: I want to directly annex at least Cerdoville.

OOC: Y'know, I'd like the same for my section. Yshurak hasn't expanded its borders since... ever.
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