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| Topic Started: May 3 2008, 06:31 PM (3,011 Views) | |
| Rafzakael | May 20 2008, 07:30 PM Post #151 |
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OOC: Article 8 isn't what you specified. Also, wasn't that kind of a separate war, as was the Austro-Hungarian thing? The Syndicat was on Germany's side against Cerdone. |
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| Union | May 20 2008, 07:32 PM Post #152 |
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ooc; Fixed. I'm sticking all the ToK conflicts into one simple treaty. It can only become law if everyone signs it, though, so if you want to amend it, propose away. |
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| Rafzakael | May 20 2008, 07:36 PM Post #153 |
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OOC: I don't think that that is a way to handle it, seeing as the Syndicat is the only nation to participate in all three conflicts. No ToK nation other than Hungary ever formally declared war on AB, Hispania and the WRK fought in Iberia but not against Cerdone, and vice-versa for Germany, Yshurak, and people I'm probably forgetting. These were definitely three very separate wars. |
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| Union | May 20 2008, 07:37 PM Post #154 |
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OOC: I fought in Cerdone. My navy closed up the Straits of Oresund, and fired missiles at Porcu, and under the mutual defense provisions of the ToK, I declared war on all who declared war on a ToK member (and vice-versa). Everyone was technically at war with one another, even if they didn't fight. |
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| Rafzakael | May 20 2008, 07:43 PM Post #155 |
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OOC: That makes two. I don't recall Germany ever declaring war on Andorra, or anyone declaring war on A-B. They were three separate wars, and should be settled by three separate treaties. |
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| Union | May 20 2008, 07:44 PM Post #156 |
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OOC: Through the ToK treaty, they all declared war on each other. |
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| Rafzakael | May 20 2008, 07:47 PM Post #157 |
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OOC: The treaty actually says that member nations are required to respond with a declaration of war, not that they automatically do. And I think that a formal declaration of war is something that ought to be RP'ed. Anyway, my point was to ask if you wouldn't mind splitting it, because as it stands, I'm signing a peace treaty with a lot of people I helped. EDIT: Better yet, you could remove Article 8, and have Hispania sign a separate treaty with the Syndicat. Since I was never technically at war, I think that that would be most appropriate, ya? |
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| Rhadamanthus | May 20 2008, 07:58 PM Post #158 |
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" Article VIII: Lithuania The Republic of Lithuania ceases to exist. The leadership of that Republic will be tried for treason, under full penalty of law. " Why remove article eight? I'm confused about what you guys are debating. |
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| Porcu | May 20 2008, 08:02 PM Post #159 |
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The Swiss-Roman Republic of Porcu would like to respectfully inform members of the Treaty of Konigsberg that the above article may not be possible. Fully considering the laws of Porcu, one would discover that the government in Stockholm has no such power at its disposal and, particularly, any internal decision or matter regarding any protectorate's national fate has been purposefully left up to the citizens of that protectorate and its governor. Should the citizens of Swiss-Roman West Afrika vote in a free and fair referendum to drop its protectorate status and join with the Kingdom of Sicily and Sardinia then Porcu will humbly respect their wish. However, that decision is left up to those citizens and them only. |
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| Rafzakael | May 20 2008, 08:04 PM Post #160 |
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OOC, @RD: Hispania has grouped the Andorran War, the Austro-Hungarian War, and the Cerdone war into one treaty. The Syndicat sent forces to Andorra (against the ToK), and to Hungary and Germany (for the ToK), so I shouldn't be signing a peace treaty with Germany and Hungary. |
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| Toussaint | May 20 2008, 08:05 PM Post #161 |
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OOC: Does Çerdoné need to sign the treaty, or does it have no such say in the matter? |
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| Union | May 20 2008, 08:09 PM Post #162 |
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OOC: No. :lol: |
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| Ukabanea | May 20 2008, 08:12 PM Post #163 |
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OOC: didnt we resolve the whole land cession thing thus "new land claims should rightfully fall upon Mircania?". |
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| Rhadamanthus | May 20 2008, 08:20 PM Post #164 |
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OOC: @Rafzakael: Your nation seems to be in awkward position fighting on different sides. But the Konigsbergers never viewed this as multiple wars, but as fronts in the same war, and I don't think it would make sense to treat this as multiple wars now. Perhaps, however, you could sign a separate peace with myself and Hispania? @Porcu: Speaking OOC, I don't particularly seek any territorial games in this war, though I naturally am gratefuly for my allies looking out for me. You can keep your protectorate. in my opinion. I would be content to in its place solicit a full, unconditional recognition of my Libyan claims (see thread in African Continent) from all defeated nations. |
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| Rafzakael | May 20 2008, 08:24 PM Post #165 |
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OOC: I think that's what we're doing, as the article regarding me is gone. |
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| Rhadamanthus | May 20 2008, 08:27 PM Post #166 |
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The West Roman Kingdom would like to propose an addition to the Apologies/War Guilt clause. All defeated nations should be required to officially denounce the ideology of "militant republicanism" (as opposed to peaceful or non-interventionist republicanism). |
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| Porcu | May 20 2008, 08:46 PM Post #167 |
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OOC: Haha, alright thanks...I'll post in the African continent right away and should it be decided that defeated nations must also denounce "militant republicanism" then I shall do that as well... |
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| Union | May 20 2008, 08:58 PM Post #168 |
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Amended. |
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| Porcu | May 20 2008, 09:02 PM Post #169 |
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The Swiss-Roman Republic of Porcu hereby accepts all terms of the Treaty of Cerdonville. Richard M. Nixon President of the Swiss-Roman Republic of Porcu |
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| Tristan da Cunha | May 20 2008, 11:52 PM Post #170 |
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OOC: This is the most abominable map I have seen in many years. |
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| Union | May 20 2008, 11:55 PM Post #171 |
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OOC: Why's that? |
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| Draxis | May 21 2008, 12:10 AM Post #172 |
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OOC: Agreed. |
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| Leonidas91 | May 21 2008, 06:31 AM Post #173 |
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OCC: (to Ukabanea) look at the treaty. I've ceded a part of my enclave and pratically they occupy also the other half of the enclave so I think ik ceded some lands, too. IC: The United States of Mircania accept very article of the peace treaty proposed by Hispania as well ceding the city of Konisgsberg to Germany. Felix Adar President of the United States of Mircania |
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| Tristan da Cunha | May 21 2008, 07:11 AM Post #174 |
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OOC: It is ugly and violates all the laws of aesthetics, much like a face with cleft palate left untreated. |
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| Ukabanea | May 21 2008, 02:22 PM Post #175 |
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ooc: yes but that was in reperation for deaths and damages.The Polish would also pay for damages and eqipment lost but, if i am not mistaken, Germany and the psu agreed that land cession would not be nessiscary as PSU forces were not responsible for directly invading and damaging German lands. Oh and hispania its PSU not UPS :lol: |
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