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Restoring Canton Stability
Topic Started: May 3 2008, 06:31 PM (3,011 Views)
Rafzakael
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OOC: Article 8 isn't what you specified. Also, wasn't that kind of a separate war, as was the Austro-Hungarian thing? The Syndicat was on Germany's side against Cerdone.
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ooc; Fixed. I'm sticking all the ToK conflicts into one simple treaty. It can only become law if everyone signs it, though, so if you want to amend it, propose away.
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May 20 2008, 08:32 PM
ooc; Fixed. I'm sticking all the ToK conflicts into one simple treaty. It can only become law if everyone signs it, though, so if you want to amend it, propose away.

OOC: I don't think that that is a way to handle it, seeing as the Syndicat is the only nation to participate in all three conflicts. No ToK nation other than Hungary ever formally declared war on AB, Hispania and the WRK fought in Iberia but not against Cerdone, and vice-versa for Germany, Yshurak, and people I'm probably forgetting. These were definitely three very separate wars.
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OOC: I fought in Cerdone. My navy closed up the Straits of Oresund, and fired missiles at Porcu, and under the mutual defense provisions of the ToK, I declared war on all who declared war on a ToK member (and vice-versa). Everyone was technically at war with one another, even if they didn't fight.
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OOC: That makes two. I don't recall Germany ever declaring war on Andorra, or anyone declaring war on A-B. They were three separate wars, and should be settled by three separate treaties.
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OOC: Through the ToK treaty, they all declared war on each other.
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OOC: The treaty actually says that member nations are required to respond with a declaration of war, not that they automatically do. And I think that a formal declaration of war is something that ought to be RP'ed. Anyway, my point was to ask if you wouldn't mind splitting it, because as it stands, I'm signing a peace treaty with a lot of people I helped.

EDIT: Better yet, you could remove Article 8, and have Hispania sign a separate treaty with the Syndicat. Since I was never technically at war, I think that that would be most appropriate, ya?
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Rafzakael
May 20 2008, 07:47 PM
OOC: The treaty actually says that member nations are required to respond with a declaration of war, not that they automatically do. And I think that a formal declaration of war is something that ought to be RP'ed. Anyway, my point was to ask if you wouldn't mind splitting it, because as it stands, I'm signing a peace treaty with a lot of people I helped.

EDIT: Better yet, you could remove Article 8, and have Hispania sign a separate treaty with the Syndicat. Since I was never technically at war, I think that that would be most appropriate, ya?

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Article VIII: Lithuania

The Republic of Lithuania ceases to exist. The leadership of that Republic will be tried for treason, under full penalty of law. "


Why remove article eight? I'm confused about what you guys are debating.
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May 20 2008, 07:07 PM
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Article VI: Porcu

Porcu will cede her African provinces to the Triune Kingdom of Sicily and Sardinia.


The Swiss-Roman Republic of Porcu would like to respectfully inform members of the Treaty of Konigsberg that the above article may not be possible. Fully considering the laws of Porcu, one would discover that the government in Stockholm has no such power at its disposal and, particularly, any internal decision or matter regarding any protectorate's national fate has been purposefully left up to the citizens of that protectorate and its governor.

Should the citizens of Swiss-Roman West Afrika vote in a free and fair referendum to drop its protectorate status and join with the Kingdom of Sicily and Sardinia then Porcu will humbly respect their wish. However, that decision is left up to those citizens and them only.
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OOC, @RD: Hispania has grouped the Andorran War, the Austro-Hungarian War, and the Cerdone war into one treaty. The Syndicat sent forces to Andorra (against the ToK), and to Hungary and Germany (for the ToK), so I shouldn't be signing a peace treaty with Germany and Hungary.
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OOC: Does Çerdoné need to sign the treaty, or does it have no such say in the matter?
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OOC: No.

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May 19 2008, 02:07 PM
We accept these terms in acception for number three. Though we did declare war on Germany our forces were not responsible for a single Germans death. No formal orders were given to engadge German forces and no offensives were made into German territory. The Damage that was done was inflicted by Mircanian Forces. Mircania's war debt is too large to fall on the shoulders of poland at this time. The PSU shall adheer to numbers one and two of this peace treaty but the debt of deaths and new land claims should rightfully fall upon Mircania.

Prime minister Tusk Kaczynski

OOC: didnt we resolve the whole land cession thing thus "new land claims should rightfully fall upon Mircania?".
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@Rafzakael: Your nation seems to be in awkward position fighting on different sides. But the Konigsbergers never viewed this as multiple wars, but as fronts in the same war, and I don't think it would make sense to treat this as multiple wars now. Perhaps, however, you could sign a separate peace with myself and Hispania?

@Porcu: Speaking OOC, I don't particularly seek any territorial games in this war, though I naturally am gratefuly for my allies looking out for me. You can keep your protectorate. in my opinion. I would be content to in its place solicit a full, unconditional recognition of my Libyan claims (see thread in African Continent) from all defeated nations.
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OOC: I think that's what we're doing, as the article regarding me is gone.
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The West Roman Kingdom would like to propose an addition to the Apologies/War Guilt clause. All defeated nations should be required to officially denounce the ideology of "militant republicanism" (as opposed to peaceful or non-interventionist republicanism).
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May 20 2008, 08:20 PM
@Porcu: Speaking OOC, I don't particularly seek any territorial games in this war, though I naturally am gratefuly for my allies looking out for me. You can keep your protectorate. in my opinion. I would be content to in its place solicit a full, unconditional recognition of my Libyan claims (see thread in African Continent) from all defeated nations.

OOC: Haha, alright thanks...I'll post in the African continent right away and should it be decided that defeated nations must also denounce "militant republicanism" then I shall do that as well...
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Treaty of Cerdoville

Reaffirming their desire to live in peace with all peoples and all governments,

Desiring further to strengthen their efforts for collective defense for the preservation of peace and security in the region,

The parties of this treaty agree to the following articles,

Article I: End of Hostilities

The parties of this treaty hereby end all hostilities among one another.

Article II: Apologies

The Madrid Pact and her allies hereby apologizes for provoking needless war and strife across the continent, and takes full responsibility for the Great European War. All signatories recognize the Triune's Kingdom claim in Libya, and abandon militant republicanism.

Article III: Cerdone

The territory formally known as Cerdone will be divided into five different security zones, as indicated on the map (appendix of the treaty). The five major powers responsible for the Scandinavian victory will uphold the peace of the land, and oversee the governance of Cerdonian territory, as indicated on the map. Canton will be made a protecterate of Belgium, and a part of Belgian Scandinavia.

Article IV: Andorra

The Free State of Andorra will be made a formal and integral part of the Kingdom of Spain. The State of Xerxes & Catalonia will be made a protecterate of the Kingdom of Spain.

Article V: Therusian Enclave

The city of Konigsberg, and the surrounding territory, will be ceded by Mircania to the German Empire. Mircania will be forbidden from placing troops in Konigsberg, but may maintain a minor garrison in the enclave. The German Empire will be responsible for the military protection of the enclave.

Article VI: United Polish Seperatists

The UPS will cede the western most portion of the nation to the German Empire, as indicated on the map.

Article VII: Lithuania

The Republic of Lithuania ceases to exist. The leadership of that Republic will be tried for treason, under full penalty of law.

Article VIII: Austro-Bayern

Austro-Bayern will immediantly withdraw from Hungary, and pay reperations.

Article IX: Enactment

The provisions of this treaty will come into force upon signing.

Article X: Appendix

Following is a map of Europe, as it will look, post-war:

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/5527/eu...mappeaceqy6.png

Article XII: Signatures

The following parties have approved of the Treaty of Cerdoville:


Amended.
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The Swiss-Roman Republic of Porcu hereby accepts all terms of the Treaty of Cerdonville.

Richard M. Nixon
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Tristan da Cunha
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OOC: This is the most abominable map I have seen in many years.
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OOC: Why's that?
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May 20 2008, 08:52 PM
OOC: This is the most abominable map I have seen in many years.

OOC: Agreed.
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OCC: (to Ukabanea) look at the treaty. I've ceded a part of my enclave and pratically they occupy also the other half of the enclave so I think ik ceded some lands, too.

IC: The United States of Mircania accept very article of the peace treaty proposed by Hispania as well ceding the city of Konisgsberg to Germany.

Felix Adar
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Tristan da Cunha
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OOC: It is ugly and violates all the laws of aesthetics, much like a face with cleft palate left untreated.
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May 21 2008, 06:31 AM
OCC: (to Ukabanea) look at the treaty. I've ceded a part of my enclave and pratically they occupy also the other half of the enclave so I think ik ceded some lands, too.

IC: The United States of Mircania accept very article of the peace treaty proposed by Hispania as well ceding the city of Konisgsberg to Germany.

Felix Adar
President of the United States of Mircania

ooc: yes but that was in reperation for deaths and damages.The Polish would also pay for damages and eqipment lost but, if i am not mistaken, Germany and the psu agreed that land cession would not be nessiscary as PSU forces were not responsible for directly invading and damaging German lands.

Oh and hispania its PSU not UPS :lol:
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