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Von Doom to Austro-Bayern proposition
Topic Started: Mar 25 2008, 06:44 AM (200 Views)
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From Budapest

Forgot, my fellow austro-germans friends the discussion you should have with Horty.
I'll wish to come personally to Munich to smooth over our difference and sanate the wounds provocate by the Horty administration.
Obviusly my administration wish confirmed the agrement about Old Croatia and eventually extend it toward eastern Hungary.
We wish not a war(also because OCC talkin i surely i have no time).
Now that( i suppose) DU is been untied Hungary can follows its own political paths.
So due to the simpathy about Hungarian Peoples and German ones i propose a non aggretion treaty.

-- Von Doom First Minister of Hungary.
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The Hungarian propossition are the this:

Horty was dangerous to peace in Europe, as new first minister chosen by prince Ludwig i offer you an agrement to preserve peace and stability.

I ask the border of 1919(RL Hungary) with the obviusly exclusion of present day Austro-Bayern.
a formal renunciation toward Transilvania and Croatia(RL Croatia) and only a little compensation in Slovakia.

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OOC: If I'm reading what you're asking right, then you have GOT TO BE KIDDING ME.

We JUST nearly went to war over your expansions. We JUST made a treaty resolving the issue. Your supposed "expansion guy" JUST fell out of power. And now you're trying to do it all over again?! What?!

If you could make a map showing what you're talking about, then I could look at this offer more clearly, but I'll warn you beforehand that odds seem very poor that this "agreement" will be accepted <_<
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OCC: I not undertand exactly why are so amazed.
Horty is been replaced by Von Doom because i have not time to do a war, but i wish play anyway.
Von Doom proposed you an extension of Hungary to RL borders to resolve once for ever the question of expansion.
Von Doom wish expand Hungary but only via pacific ways.
If you refuse Von Doom administration will serch better time to talk with you about Hungary exapansion in its RL borders and anyway will procede to ask a formal treaty of peace and secure the borders between the principality and the Confederation.
However Von Doom assures that if Confederation dident wish allow Hungary expand east no Hungaian force will move
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To: Confederacy government
From: Hungarian First Minister

Herr chancelor, studing with attention the map of Europe we have recognize that exapanding Hungary to the dreamed imperial one is impossible.
However we seen that our own borders are free and we wish take our homeland back.
I cannot, exactly, understand well why Confederacy opposes to our right claims but i can assure you, herr Chancelor, that i will move no a tank, a soldier o neither a nurse outside tha actual borders of Hungary.
Only i wish you to look upon our situation.
Once upon a time, before the WWI, my country was great and powerfull, we lost all fighting alonside the weak Austrian monarchy.
We lost many lands that, rigthly, belong to us: Banat, Croatia, Transilvania, Slovakia.
Banat and Croatia were annexed by the Pačacy and Slovakia from Cecks; Transilvania degenerate in a powder of authonomous comunities.
Now that Hungary is allied with ToK nothing can prevent us to take back Slovakia and Transilvania, but i'll wish not do such thing.
I, only wish take was left us after Trianon: What we call Hungary of 1919.

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Red areas - Hungary of 1919

I belive that, at least our homeland, the provinces we call home, should be part of our nation.
However i wish arrive to an accord with you, because my wish, and my prince too, is peace over anyother thing.

So i again propose you to talk about eastern Hungary.
Now that you are in Madrid Pact and Danubian Union is no more, you should have no fear to be sorrounded and the agrement of western Hungary leaves your capital well shielded against an eventual invasion of ours.

We wish only the our own home and in exchange of it i'll ready to do greater concession.

1) Forever lay claims over Slovakia, Transilvania and Banat.
2) Smilitarized borders between our own nation
3) Forever lay claims over AU provincies storically belonging to Hungary.
4) Non agression treaty, unless our alliance, to them goes our own fidelty, are not in war eache other.

Obviusly this is a sketch and you are allowed to change it or refuse it "en masse".
As i promise no a soldier will move to take that land withour Confederacy's Concordance.

-- Victor Von Doom, First Minister of Hungary
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Herr minister of diplomacy, can you, if possible motivate this undestendable refusal to our, i belive human and right, to our ancestral land?.
If you can explain me, i'll report it to my liege: the Prince and to my First Minister and may we find an accomodation.
In Budapest, we have many times menaced war because your opposition to our claims, Von Doom wish not move war, but this opposition remain hard to understand and generate much grudge in common Hungarians.

However we have here a plan for a cease fire and stability in region that block our nations in this present state.
Von Doom is ready to not take back our homeland, but ask what we'll gain if we stay here and stop.

-- Janos Walker, Foreign Minister
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"The Confederation will not be bullied by Hungary for the sake of its appeasement."
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Mar 28 2008, 01:47 PM
"The Confederation will not be bullied by Hungary for the sake of its appeasement."
-Georg-Peter Eder
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I dont understand while AU will take any words of the ours in a wrong way.
We wish negotiate our own land back.
Austro-Bayern says no.
Well no.
We ask why no, we have not answer if not insultes and our action are been misinterpreted.
Von Doom says that we will not move in eastern Hungary if confederacy wish not, but ask to answer to this simple question: Why AU opposes to our intent to take our land back?

I wish that is been clear that we are bulling no one and that ours are simple requests to see if there is a possibility of a tractative.

We find only a hard oppositions and word rounds about the question: Why not?

However, if interested Hungary will continue to propose a friendship treaty.

-- Janos Walker, Foreign minister of Hungary
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OOC: Why is AB, which clamors for the return of old states, opposing the recreation of the Hungarian state? It doesn't really make sense from an OOC perspective. :huh:
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OCC: Me too!
I not understand well his motivation.
I'll cannot conduct a war because i'll have not time to send messages and the other war stuff, but anyway i'll be glad to understand why he doesn't wish Hungary back.
I can understand when DU was still live...but now?
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Mar 28 2008, 02:10 PM
OOC: Why is AB, which clamors for the return of old states, opposing the recreation of the Hungarian state? It doesn't really make sense from an OOC perspective. :huh:

OOC: Ah, but there already IS a Hungary, isn't there?

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Mar 30 2008, 03:53 PM
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Mar 28 2008, 02:10 PM
OOC: Why is AB, which clamors for the return of old states, opposing the recreation of the Hungarian state? It doesn't really make sense from an OOC perspective. :huh:

OOC: Ah, but there already IS a Hungary, isn't there?

OOC: Wait, what?
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OOC: If I'm not mistaken, Hungary is, in fact, Hungary. Yes?
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OOC: I have no idea what you mean. If you mean the unoccupied territory on the European continent map, that can be any smal;l, unrecgonized state that you wish to make it. What is there is not exactly defined, if you understand what I mean.
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OOC: Uh, you're reading too much into this. I mean, there already IS a Hungary.
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OOC- Then what does this entire arguement have to do with the annexation of land by filo to make Hungary as according to its RL borders.
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OCC: Yes Hungary is Hungary...whatever else should be?
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