Ukabanea, Georgia and Orthodoxy

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Ukabanea, Georgia and Orthodoxy; Split from "The Triumph of Orthodoxy"
Topic Started: Feb 11 2008, 06:29 PM (487 Views)
Ukabanea	Feb 11 2008, 10:23 PM Post #26
The Resident Evil?....Mayhap? Posts: 494 Group: Members Member #402 Joined: January 19, 2008	OOC: why dont you just split the OOC?



Kasnyia	Feb 11 2008, 10:23 PM Post #27
Chairman of the Bank Posts: 12,339 Group: Veterans Member #164 Joined: July 15, 2005	OOC- I meant split it to become a legit RP thread of its own. Alas, if it seems to not be able to split properly, then I guess thats how it is. However, to stop this tangent wouldn't be good either. We were gonna have to make some RP move regarding Ukabanea's betrayal of the Orthodoxy anyway. EDIT- Because thats not the issue, Uka. The tangent itself is the issue.



Rhadamanthus	Feb 11 2008, 10:26 PM Post #28
Legitimist Posts: 12,945 Group: Admin Member #19 Joined: January 13, 2004	OOC: I split it after the Russian Tsar said that Ukabanea could not attend. Feel free to continue this interesting RP here.



Kasnyia	Feb 11 2008, 10:31 PM Post #29
Chairman of the Bank Posts: 12,339 Group: Veterans Member #164 Joined: July 15, 2005	OOC- And now a split n' lock of the OOC? :lol: IC- Georgia is an integral part of the Russian Empire, and highly strategic for Russian interests. In anycase, it is not up to you to decide what land is worthy for conquest and what isn't. You also claim to have joined of your free will to fight alongside the heathen enemy. To willingly associate yourself and your countrymen with evil will win you no reprieve here. -Archbishop Michael of Alexanderhaven



Rhadamanthus	Feb 11 2008, 10:35 PM Post #30
Legitimist Posts: 12,945 Group: Admin Member #19 Joined: January 13, 2004	OOC: No, I certainly see no need to split the OOC :P



Ukabanea	Feb 11 2008, 10:45 PM Post #31
The Resident Evil?....Mayhap? Posts: 494 Group: Members Member #402 Joined: January 19, 2008	(OOC: i was just talking about The Triumph of Orthodoxy thread) You seem to forget Michael that i am not the one who has started this war, the combine is simply attempting to reap the benefits of this conflict. -Emperor Michiel Alexander, The Golden Eagle of Ukabanea



Rhadamanthus	Feb 11 2008, 10:48 PM Post #32
Legitimist Posts: 12,945 Group: Admin Member #19 Joined: January 13, 2004	OOC: I was responding to Kas' joking suggestion to split the OOC after I split the thread. IC: "You may not have started the war but that does not mean you have no culpability in it. By participating in it, you split the blood of the brethren in Georgia. How can this possibly be squared with the Lord's commandments? Dear monarch, do not succumb to the pressures. We know how great the temptation is, to join the powers of the Earth in striking at the weak and the defeneseless. But the Lord is Georgia's armor, and this is no simple war. We beg you to choose right over wrong, to choose good over evil. Please, for your soul, and the souls of your people, return to the bosom of the Church." - Theophylect, Archbishop of Syracuse



Kasnyia	Feb 11 2008, 10:52 PM Post #33
Chairman of the Bank Posts: 12,339 Group: Veterans Member #164 Joined: July 15, 2005	You have not earned the right to call me by my name. You will address me as Archbishop. It does not matter if you started it or if you joined in the eleventh hour. The very fact that you have decided to selfishly attempt to gain from an attack on Orthodox lands immediately forfeits any innocence on your part. You are the slave of the Scythirans, not a conquerer. You will reap no benefits, you will recieve respect from no one, and your people will have died in shame and in vain. - Archbishop Michael of Alexanderhaven



Ukabanea	Feb 11 2008, 11:08 PM Post #34
The Resident Evil?....Mayhap? Posts: 494 Group: Members Member #402 Joined: January 19, 2008	(OOC: signing off for tonight) I apologize archbishop i seemed to have forgotten that i have been excommunicated. I may not benefit directly from the war but the delayed gratification of my involvement will come. I would gladly go to hell for my country but at least i would know that i saved it from certain doom. One day after this is long over perhaps if given the chance ukabanea will rejoin orthodoxy. -Emperor Michiel Alexander, The Golden Eagle of Ukabanea



Kasnyia	Feb 11 2008, 11:27 PM Post #35
Chairman of the Bank Posts: 12,339 Group: Veterans Member #164 Joined: July 15, 2005	Tell me, WHAT benefit would there be for you? Tell me, WHAT 'doom' were you facing by staying neutral even if you could not use your military arms to support Georgia? Scythirus was not threatening you, for you are not a European power. Enough of your lies. - Archbishop Michael of Alexanderhaven.



Union	Feb 12 2008, 08:36 AM Post #36
Pyrenees Republic Posts: 3,219 Group: Forum Mods Member #307 Joined: December 27, 2006	I would merely like to comment on the na�vety of the Ukabanean head of state if he truly thinks Scythirius gives a rat ass about Ukabanea, and will actually allow it to expand. The Scythirian governments wants influence over the entire Middle East, local, and foriegn. Ukabanea is just another state standing in the way of its goals. Do not be friends with a man-eating tiger, for when he is hungry again, he goes after you. King Hannibal II, King of Hispania, Exarch of the Roman Isles



Ukabanea	Feb 12 2008, 09:35 AM Post #37
The Resident Evil?....Mayhap? Posts: 494 Group: Members Member #402 Joined: January 19, 2008	Indeed i know this, Scythirius could toss me aside like a broken toy and even IF something as unfortionate as that were to happen it would least be one step closer to global unification. --Emperor Michiel Alexander, The Golden Eagle of Ukabanea



Union	Feb 12 2008, 11:01 AM Post #38
Pyrenees Republic Posts: 3,219 Group: Forum Mods Member #307 Joined: December 27, 2006	So, you do not speak out of Ukabanean interests, as you have earlier stated, but rather a puppet regime of Scythirius. Why does Ukabanea not simply integrate itself into Scythirius, and save cartographers the trouble of mapping it as an independent entity, and diplomats from adressing it as such?



Ukabanea	Feb 12 2008, 11:14 AM Post #39
The Resident Evil?....Mayhap? Posts: 494 Group: Members Member #402 Joined: January 19, 2008	Because the combine IS a independent entity, you seem to fail to grasp the simple subjects of expansion, independence and patriotism. Ukabanea joined this war not only because of the diplomatic benefits but it was also due to our duty to the middle east. -Emperor Michiel Alexander, The Golden Eagle of Ukabanea



Union	Feb 12 2008, 12:50 PM Post #40
Pyrenees Republic Posts: 3,219 Group: Forum Mods Member #307 Joined: December 27, 2006	No... I understand perfectly. Expansion? You are foolish if you think Scythirius will allow you to expand freely. You are more foolish still if you think Scythirius holds Ukabanea in their best interests. Independence? You have spoken out against it. What of the independence of Georgia from other Middle Eastern powers? What of the independence of the territory Ukabanea intends to expand into? What of Ukabanea's own independence? Your words, "If something as unfortionate as that were to happen it would least be one step closer to global unification" Patriotism? What patriotism? You are not in this war for Ukabanea, you are in this war for Scythirius. If you were in this war for Ukabanea, you'd be fighting to end Scythirian influence, and thus gaining the independence you crave. When Scythirius loses this war, their sphere of influence will crumble, Ukabanea with it. It is the Combine that has shown it cares not for religion, nation, or creed, so long as the wishes of the Scythirian state are fufilled. The Combine is a puppet regime, whether it cares to acknowledge it or not. At least I call it as it is. King Hannibal II, King of Hispania, Exarch of the Roman Isles



Ukabanea	Feb 12 2008, 03:01 PM Post #41
The Resident Evil?....Mayhap? Posts: 494 Group: Members Member #402 Joined: January 19, 2008	It may seem this way to you but the indepence i spoke of was that of Ukabanea. Scythirus is far Beyond the power of either you or me. I joined this war for the continuation of the combine, if i had not entered Georgia then by wars end i would have had hardly any relations with my neighboring countries. Over time the doorway into asia that i seek to pass through now would eventually close, Ukabanea would become land locked and the total domination by scythirius would eventually come to Ukabanea. At least by entering this war on the side of scythirus Ukabanea has a chance. -Emperor Michiel Alexander, The Golden Eagle of Ukabanea



Kasnyia	Feb 12 2008, 03:08 PM Post #42
Chairman of the Bank Posts: 12,339 Group: Veterans Member #164 Joined: July 15, 2005	Where is the proof of this? There is none. As a non-European nation, you would have survived and prospered as Alexanderhaven has. And you don't seem to realize that even if what you say was true, Scythirus would not allow you to be independant merely because you provided cannon fodder for their campaign. You have no independance. You have no honor. Your nation will be forgotten as a puppet state of Scythirus.



Ukabanea	Feb 12 2008, 07:40 PM Post #43
The Resident Evil?....Mayhap? Posts: 494 Group: Members Member #402 Joined: January 19, 2008	-Other than Ukabanean Involvement in Georgia the combine has had no prior dealings with scythirus. You have neither justifiction nor proof to call the Combine a "puppet state" of Scythirus. -Emperor Michiel Alexander, The Golden Eagle of Ukabanea



Rhadamanthus	Feb 12 2008, 07:49 PM Post #44
Legitimist Posts: 12,945 Group: Admin Member #19 Joined: January 13, 2004	"The involvement in Georgia is enough. It shows that Michiel Alexander has no capacity for moral reasoning other than those of a base animal: craven fear and lust." - Theophylect, Archbishop of Syracuse



Ukabanea	Feb 12 2008, 10:28 PM Post #45
The Resident Evil?....Mayhap? Posts: 494 Group: Members Member #402 Joined: January 19, 2008	If i am such a thing in your eyes then you have forgetten a beasts main instinct, survival! If i have no more reasoning than a animal then truly i would not be able to at least try to create a better future for the combine and the world. -Emperor Michiel Alexander, The Golden Eagle of Ukabanea



Kasnyia	Feb 12 2008, 10:30 PM Post #46
Chairman of the Bank Posts: 12,339 Group: Veterans Member #164 Joined: July 15, 2005	You were surviving just fine before you entered this war. Now, you are cursed to lose everything for the Orthodox world will not forget this trechary.



Rhadamanthus	Feb 12 2008, 10:33 PM Post #47
Legitimist Posts: 12,945 Group: Admin Member #19 Joined: January 13, 2004	Ukabanea Feb 12 2008, 09:28 PM If i am such a thing in your eyes then you have forgetten a beasts main instinct, survival! If i have no more reasoning than a animal then truly i would not be able to at least try to create a better future for the combine and the world. -Emperor Michiel Alexander, The Golden Eagle of Ukabanea "You have not even an instinct of survival, and certainly no attempt to better your country or the world. Instead you have just jumped into hellfire for trivial things." -Theophylect, Archbishop of Syracuse



Ukabanea	Feb 12 2008, 10:53 PM Post #48
The Resident Evil?....Mayhap? Posts: 494 Group: Members Member #402 Joined: January 19, 2008	-Have you not been listening to what i have told you? I have sided with the middle east to gain recognition so that i may eventually settle the land east of the combine before the window of opportunity closes and Ukabanea is consumed. I am also perplexed to why you would accuse me of the killing of innocents when my forces have been positioned around sighnaghi for the entirety of the war besieging the Andorra defences. Emperor Michiel Alexander, The Golden Eagle of Ukabanea



Kasnyia	Feb 12 2008, 10:57 PM Post #49
Chairman of the Bank Posts: 12,339 Group: Veterans Member #164 Joined: July 15, 2005	Because the Andorrans are innocent. Also, you do not seem to be listening to us. You would have been allowed to expand even if you had stayed neutral. Now that Scythrius knows it can control you, they will be your masters now. In all things, land included.



Ukabanea	Feb 13 2008, 11:08 AM Post #50
The Resident Evil?....Mayhap? Posts: 494 Group: Members Member #402 Joined: January 19, 2008	-Once again i tell you scythirus does not control me. I decided to ally myself with scythirus because it was in the best interests of the combine. As you may also notice that i have not only allied myself with scythirus but also with Nag Ehgoeg and the new ottoman empire. Aslo the Andorrans are certainly not innocent,they are as involved in this war as Ukabanea is.(kind of)


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