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Topic Started: Jan 10 2008, 09:27 AM (635 Views)
NRE	Aug 16 2008, 12:19 AM Post #26
Map Tsar and Southern Gentleman Posts: 9,266 Group: Admin Member #120 Joined: April 21, 2005	ok so who are my wiki code experts out there cause I could use some help creating an infobox



East Anarx	Aug 16 2008, 07:11 PM Post #27
Anarchitect Posts: 4,788 Group: Multi Member #210 Joined: January 16, 2006	I'm not opposed to the idea of a NSWR wiki, but I've pretty much given up on having a NSWR wiki that would truly satisfy me, so I've resorted to just having an Encyclopedia Esternarxia, which I intend to regularly update, and eventually fix up so it looks not quite as ugly as sin.



Quaon	Aug 16 2008, 08:45 PM Post #28
A Prince Amoung Men-Shoot First and Ask Questions Later Posts: 8,837 Group: Forum Mods Member #209 Joined: January 11, 2006	Dude...how does Quote: describing a form of radical socialism that considers every individual determined to be one, a sovereign, or absolute ruler of their own estate. It is named after Esternarx, being the geographical originator of it's finer theories and foremost nation in the world in its espousal. Considered by many old school socialists and communists to be incorrectly labeled as a form of socialism, it shares more in common with individualist anarchism and radical libertarianism, though its proponents cling to the term socialism. Most notably, Esternarxian Socialism considers the workings of the truly free market, in which all relations between people are voluntary exchanges, to be the purest form of socialism. It also considers secession to be the absolute right of every individual, and advocates a dual strategy of underground black market activity and a consistent philosophical application of the principle of self-sovereignty. equal socialism? That's like calling the USSR capitalist!



East Anarx	Aug 16 2008, 11:24 PM Post #29
Anarchitect Posts: 4,788 Group: Multi Member #210 Joined: January 16, 2006	Quote: Considered by many old school socialists and communists to be incorrectly labeled as a form of socialism, it shares more in common with individualist anarchism and radical libertarianism, though its proponents cling to the term socialism. Wikispaces is down for maintenance otherwise I would show you the line of reasoning that Esternarxian Socialists use to make their seemingly contradictory claim. It basically goes something like this: "Every individual who declares herself a sovereign and thus part of the commonwealth that is the free market is both the owner of herself and all her justly acquired property and the sole government ruling herself and her property, meaning all property is in effect government property. The only difference between that and what is normally considered socialism or communism is that every government is a government of one individual by one individual over one individual, and they are all only loosely connected by law, rather than everyone being part of the same government." It's supposed to fly in the face of the classical definition of socialism much the same way that modern liberalism flies in the face of the classical definition of liberalism. If it offends you then it has accomplished its goal. EDIT: Also, the USSR was capitalist by certain definitions of capitalism. Edited by East Anarx, Aug 16 2008, 11:25 PM.



New Harumf	Aug 17 2008, 09:41 AM Post #30
Bloodthirsty Unicorn Posts: 9,638 Group: Forum Mods Member #177 Joined: October 8, 2005	Esternarx Aug 16 2008, 11:24 PM It's supposed to fly in the face of the classical definition of socialism much the same way that modern liberalism flies in the face of the classical definition of liberalism. If it offends you then it has accomplished its goal. EDIT: Also, the USSR was capitalist by certain definitions of capitalism. Lordy, ya just gotta love this guy! :love:



Quaon	Aug 17 2008, 01:37 PM Post #31
A Prince Amoung Men-Shoot First and Ask Questions Later Posts: 8,837 Group: Forum Mods Member #209 Joined: January 11, 2006	Quote: It's supposed to fly in the face of the classical definition of socialism much the same way that modern liberalism flies in the face of the classical definition of liberalism. If it offends you then it has accomplished its goal. It doesn't offend me, it strikes me as kind of stupid. Quote: EDIT: Also, the USSR was capitalist by certain definitions of capitalism. E, WTF happened?! That's a left-anarchist claim, man!



East Anarx	Aug 17 2008, 04:10 PM Post #32
Anarchitect Posts: 4,788 Group: Multi Member #210 Joined: January 16, 2006	Quaon Aug 17 2008, 01:37 PM Quote: It's supposed to fly in the face of the classical definition of socialism much the same way that modern liberalism flies in the face of the classical definition of liberalism. If it offends you then it has accomplished its goal. It doesn't offend me, it strikes me as kind of stupid. Fair enough. I'll agree that it kind of is. Semantics usually are. It should certainly make for some fun RPs when the real socialists hear about it and get all indignant, though. Quote: E, WTF happened?! That's a left-anarchist claim, man! It's all semantics. Historically, the term 'capitalism' was coined by the left, and its definition described the social and economic system of the 19th century, which was certainly not a perfect example of the free market as market anarchists understand it. Many market anarchists and libertarians attempt to reclaim the word 'capitalism' and make it mean something other than its historical definition. Sometimes they succeed, sometimes they don't. The point is, its just a word. A word with a lot of history and strong emotions attached to it. It may be defined as one thing, but connote something totally different. Why fight a war over a word? If I'm talking with someone with whom the term 'capitalism' has too many negative connotations, why should I first attempt to change their personal definition of the word before I explain the far more important tenets of my philosophy, namely that all relations between people should be voluntary exchanges, which is something I can do with less highly charged words than 'capitalism' and 'anarchism.'



NRE	Aug 17 2008, 04:24 PM Post #33
Map Tsar and Southern Gentleman Posts: 9,266 Group: Admin Member #120 Joined: April 21, 2005	ok so seriously, does anyone know why the information in the infox I've created, isn't confined within the box? Cause it's REALLY bothering me and I would appreciate the help. http://nationstates.wikia.com/wiki/TheRussianFederation



Comrade Queen	Aug 17 2008, 07:11 PM Post #34
Comrade Bitchqueen Posts: 4,159 Group: Forum Mods Member #83 Joined: October 4, 2004	Yeah, that's why I'd wait until the real one comes back. If it ever does.



Comrade Queen	Aug 26 2008, 08:00 PM Post #35
Comrade Bitchqueen Posts: 4,159 Group: Forum Mods Member #83 Joined: October 4, 2004	Hey, guess what... it IS back.



NRE	Aug 26 2008, 08:03 PM Post #36
Map Tsar and Southern Gentleman Posts: 9,266 Group: Admin Member #120 Joined: April 21, 2005	Scythirus Aug 26 2008, 08:00 PM Hey, guess what... it IS back. SWEEEEEEEET



Kasnyia	Aug 26 2008, 08:11 PM Post #37
Chairman of the Bank Posts: 12,339 Group: Veterans Member #164 Joined: July 15, 2005	Lots of articles to write for me....eff.... I'm gonna hate finishing Gassel's....



Kasnyia	Aug 28 2008, 06:15 PM Post #38
Chairman of the Bank Posts: 12,339 Group: Veterans Member #164 Joined: July 15, 2005	http://www.nswiki.net/index.php?title=Kasnyian_Military_Republic Not finished, but...Opinions?



Porcu	Aug 28 2008, 07:35 PM Post #39
"Work is the curse of the drinking classes." Posts: 4,188 Group: Global Mods Member #415 Joined: February 19, 2008	Definitely a strong start. I like it at least :P I could honestly spend hours reading about different people's nations, their regions, their wars, and such...



Kasnyia	Jun 2 2009, 10:06 PM Post #40
Chairman of the Bank Posts: 12,339 Group: Veterans Member #164 Joined: July 15, 2005	I think my next project will be to fill in the details of the war via this wiki, but I'm gonna need help. Anyone willing? Note that work won't start on this immediately, but by the end of summer, I intend to start writing more articles.



NRE	Jun 2 2009, 10:42 PM Post #41
Map Tsar and Southern Gentleman Posts: 9,266 Group: Admin Member #120 Joined: April 21, 2005	You're talking about doing a Dominion Wiki yes? I'd help, I like working on my own wiki's and trying to keep them up-to-date.



Kasnyia	Jun 2 2009, 10:59 PM Post #42
Chairman of the Bank Posts: 12,339 Group: Veterans Member #164 Joined: July 15, 2005	Yep. I rather liked finishing my KMR article, so once the war is finished, we can fill in the gaps via the wiki.


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