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IInd Budapest Meeting; Only DU nations
Topic Started: Dec 14 2007, 07:27 AM (218 Views)
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Franek Sznura - Forein Minister of Hungary

To all Danubia Union nations, Hungary calls for a meeting, here in Budapest, to discuss about our future political moves, and to control, and eventually, adjourn the Chart of the Union.

We say so, not to stop other member nations but because we belive that the dream of a union of Danubian nation must be put alive

Yours, Franek Szunura

OCC: All DU should post here
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Marslava is currently sending as delegate our exterior policies minister, viscoumt Cereanu .
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At the moment Usharea is dealing with internal issues and cannot attend (OOC-I'm working on other stuff really, its about 3 am and i logged on after a review i worte.)

IC-Usharea will observe the proceedings of the this meeting and will decide on views established within the meeting once we return.
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Vicecoumt Cereanu stared at the hungarian delegates telling " Well if at least Racaria won't attend the meeting i guess it will be impossible to have a representative convention . However what are the clauses of DU ideology that you would like to discuss ? "
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I belive we need to wait Racarian delegate before talking, However Hungarian gov. belive necessary talk again about the DU chart.
We belive that a much stronger confederation, as the chart suggests, but since i see that DU nations, as yours, your excellency prefer a more indipendent politic, maybe talk about the rules we have decided time ago.

-- Franek Sznura
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We think that union structures should have an extra territoriality status, but that each country should have its own policies, in some limits .
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Indeed. We need to be a tight federation but we can not extend our international policies to over-rule our national soverignty.
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But where are the limitation?
What kind of walls need?

-- Franek Sznura
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Well finacial needs and supply shouldn't be regulated. Arms and stuff need to be watched but the DU as a whole shouldn't voice pro to a single dealing party.

Allies, are fine. But if a country allies a nation that could be deemed as a hazard to the stability of the Union, then the other members should at least try to intervene.
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Dec 18 2007, 06:58 PM
Well finacial needs and supply shouldn't be regulated. Arms and stuff need to be watched but the DU as a whole shouldn't voice pro to a single dealing party.

Allies, are fine. But if a country allies a nation that could be deemed as a hazard to the stability of the Union, then the other members should at least try to intervene.

But the question we are asking, is more complex.
How to decide if an action go against the DU at whole?
Fore Exemple:
Marslava, seems very free, and, Marslavian delegate will not offended by my statement, very undecidet in its foreign politics.
When we were in tractatives with TOK, Marslava were taking ecomical accords with Andorra, the bitter enemy of TOK.
Now, Hungary don't, limitate the freedom of action of Marslava or of any members but ask how to recognize the freedom and decide, togheder when the DU should intervene.
Thanks

-- Franek Sznura
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Very well Marslava accept and acknowledge the DU's policy unity as necessary and swears to act more coerently to union's political orientation .
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Hungary will be glad to know, so i belive we need to put on chart, what kind of cohesion we should have, or if DU should only be a defensive alliance with simple traits of economic cooperation.

-- Franek Sznura
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I belive that this union will be superfluous, and futile.
So the situation is this: Wish DU members act coordinately?
Wish DU memberse decide the limits of the Union?

If not, we will ask a greatly reformation of constitution of DU and a new treaty.

-- Franek Sznura
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1) recognising it futile is recognising your operate as futile
2) DU should coordinate exterior policy of the members states but not control it
3) Let's open another topic to clarify each state political priority
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NO need for that Maraslav :P
Usharea believes that the DU is first and foremost a defensive pact and economic juncture to progress our nations to prosperity.

The DU members that decide how we act as a union are the first 3, HUngary, Maraslav, and Usharea.

Because we are, in UShareas opinion, a defensive economic union, Usharea believes that other issues should only be brought up when the time arrises. No need to take care of too many things at once just becuase we are bored.
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But when issues are never discuss between us how we can coordinate our efforts?

-- Sznura
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We should wait presence of all other members and discuss political matters in another convention . But this should be representative .
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