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| American Chocolate Sucks | |
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| Topic Started: Nov 24 2007, 09:40 AM (840 Views) | |
| New Harumf | Nov 25 2007, 11:01 PM Post #26 |
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China has over 200,000,000 people doing well. This should be disconcerting, except for the fact that they have 900,000,000 living in poverty. They will need to deal with that, and soon, or they will have a very major civil war on their hands. Their wealth and success is very illusional! Paradise, Americans are experts on making love! Nuff said. Also, our chocolate is generally milk chocolate. Different taste, different texture. We can, and are, starting to make good chocolates! Kinda like Starbucks when they started out. Hidden away and hard to find, but a delight when you do. Most of the chocolate you can buy here in an airport or 7-11 is crap however. |
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| Kasnyia | Nov 25 2007, 11:21 PM Post #27 |
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Ghiradelli is an example of American progress in chocolate, I would say. Definately better than Hershey's though not quite European standard... As for your assertions Proto, Alls I'm gonna say is...no. American chocolate, much like American cars, have a ways to go before they can be considered good relative to the rest of the world. |
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| Tristan da Cunha | Nov 25 2007, 11:31 PM Post #28 |
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Lol, Ghirardelli doesn't even sound American. |
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| Rhadamanthus | Nov 25 2007, 11:35 PM Post #29 |
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From Wiki: "The Ghirardelli Chocolate Company is a United States division of Swiss candy-maker Lindt & Sprüngli. The company was founded by Italian chocolatier Domingo Ghirardelli." I think calling it American chocolate is a slight stretch. |
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| Kasnyia | Nov 26 2007, 01:06 AM Post #30 |
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It was originally American (Italian, but founded in America), and the European chocolatier would not have bought them (which was only in 1998) unless they had something to offer, which they did back in those days. |
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| Konosha | Nov 26 2007, 01:38 AM Post #31 |
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Yeah, well considering every American has either some European, African, Hispanic, Asian, Middle Eastern, or Polynesian lineage in them, that's not saying much. |
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| Catholic Europe | Nov 26 2007, 07:54 AM Post #32 |
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Mmmmmmmmmmmmm, Lindt is the BEST chocolate in the world. Period. |
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| Tristan da Cunha | Nov 26 2007, 08:02 AM Post #33 |
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It's saying a lot actually. Hershey sounds American. Ford sounds American. Peyton Manning sounds American. Ghirardelli sounds like Lamborghini. |
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| Catholic Europe | Nov 26 2007, 08:19 AM Post #34 |
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That sounds like a WASP-like attitude there.... |
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| Tristan da Cunha | Nov 26 2007, 08:54 AM Post #35 |
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I'm just saying, American chocolate isn't very good. The best "American" chocolate is made by some Italian boutique. We can be sure that people eat Ghirardelli not to eat American. They're eating for the Italian boutique. |
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| Catholic Europe | Nov 26 2007, 09:08 AM Post #36 |
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Those 'American' names sound very English or Scottish though... Now, if you were to have 'Little Big-Tree' as an American chocolate maker then I might say you've got an American chocolate maker (along your kind of thought). ;) |
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| Tristan da Cunha | Nov 26 2007, 09:26 AM Post #37 |
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The US never stopped being English. It might in the future but not at the moment. Furthermore the very name America is an imperialist name imposed upon the red man by the white man. The red man rarely refers to himself as American. They don't even prefer the name Native American, more terminology imposed by the white man in the ivory tower. The red man sees himself as part of his particular tribal nation, such as Sioux, Iroquois, etc. But I digress. |
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| Catholic Europe | Nov 26 2007, 09:27 AM Post #38 |
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Red man :o |
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| Kasnyia | Nov 26 2007, 10:10 AM Post #39 |
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Doesn't matter whether or not Ghiradelli is WASP enough to be considered "American" by your definition. It was founded in America and existed for a hundred years in America before Lindt bought it, and is apart of it's city's local culture, thus it is American. Technically and culturally. |
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| Rhadamanthus | Nov 26 2007, 10:21 AM Post #40 |
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Kas, thanks for the correction. I didn't know it was American before being bought. |
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| Kasnyia | Nov 26 2007, 10:24 AM Post #41 |
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No prob. ^_^ |
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| Tristan da Cunha | Nov 26 2007, 12:45 PM Post #42 |
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I know, I'm just saying that Ghirardelli does not sound American. In fact nobody would ever suspect the name Ghirardelli is associated with the US unless being notified. Ghirardelli is similar to the Honda Ridgeline. Riddle me this - is the Honda Ridgeline American or Japanese (or even Canadian)? |
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| Catholic Europe | Nov 26 2007, 02:17 PM Post #43 |
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What surnames are associated with America other than the surnames of Presidents? |
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| New Harumf | Nov 26 2007, 06:07 PM Post #44 |
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Most common names in America: Smith (or derivations, Smythe, Schmidt, etc. Either English or German) Jones (Welsh) Johnson (English) In Chicago: Majority of sirnames are Polish In L.A. Majority of sirnames have Huspanic Origins In Minneapolis, St. Louis, St. Paul, Kansas City, Etc, Majority of sirnames are German (Bastardations like Miller, Muller, Mays, where the accents and double vowels have been removed) New York, majority Italian and Dutch. Boston, majority Irish, Italian or Porteguise. In Canada (non-Quebec) Majority of names are Scottish. In New Orleans, majority are French. Among Black America, majority are English or Welsh, since they took the last name of their southern slave owners after emancipation. Lots of Jones', Johnson's, Jefferson's, Williams', Davis', etc. Vast majority of American names do NOT end with a vowel, making them Northern European, while more and more are ending in a vowel, making them Asian, southern European, African, Hispanic, etc. CE, we are truly a melting pot, and a Yazstremski, Ghirardelli, Patel, Khoshaba, Guillani, Eisenhauer, Uminger, McCain, Clinton, Etc. can never, ever prove who is the most American. Ask someone in New York if DiMaggio is American, and they will answer "Absolutely as American as you can get." When growing up, my best friends were: Sorich (Croasian), Rasmussen (German), Schulz (Dutch), Mathis (Greek), Lewis (English), Fullarton (Scot), Dykstra (Polish), McNeil (Scot). All were born in America, and all of their parents were born in America. All had at least one Grandparent NOT born in America. All only spoke English. |
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| Catholic Europe | Nov 26 2007, 06:53 PM Post #45 |
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Exactly my point. |
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| Kasnyia | Nov 26 2007, 07:16 PM Post #46 |
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Nice call NH. Though Patels are not yet integrated enough to be considered American...they themselves don't consider it yet for the most part. :lol: |
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| Tristan da Cunha | Nov 26 2007, 07:26 PM Post #47 |
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In terms of product lines: McDonalds, Smuckers. Lysol, even. Wal-Mart. There's actually no intuitive reason to assume the name Ghirardelli is American, just as there is no intuitive reason to assume Lamborghini or Ferrero (or Ferrari) is American. Thus Ghirardelli doesn't sound American. |
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| Catholic Europe | Nov 26 2007, 07:30 PM Post #48 |
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Well, by that reasoning there is no intuitive reason to assume that any surname is American other than those that have lent themselves to famous companies or famous people (take Lopez for example, I'm sure many many people would associate the surname Lopez with America because of J-Lo). |
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| Tristan da Cunha | Nov 26 2007, 08:04 PM Post #49 |
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This thread is a discussion of products and brands, not just any surname. Unscientifically speaking, 95% of American products have Anglicized names, so non-Anglicized brands don't sound like American brands. Even if Yuri started a vodka company in New York City, his brand would not sound American. Simple. (though I'm sure a dozen axioms involving commutations have been violated there) Lopez could be anyone from Madrid to Buenos Aires. Now "J-Lo" is an all American brand. Which Argentine parents in their right mind would name their kid Jennifer! As I said earlier, it's worth noting that the best American chocolate has a venerable Europe heritage - very clearly reflected in its name and marketing - and isn't simply a guy pouring milk and cocoa beans into a huge vat in the middle of Pennsylvania. Thus reinforcing the title of the thread "American Chocolate Sucks". |
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| Great New France | Nov 26 2007, 08:36 PM Post #50 |
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Burger King... ;) :lol: |
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