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| Topic Started: Aug 20 2007, 03:35 PM (796 Views) | |
| East Anarx | Aug 20 2007, 03:35 PM Post #1 |
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Okay, so I've been thinking this over for quite a while. I'm thinking I might just relocate Esternarx to the Azores Islands. You know, those 9 little islands in the middle of the Atlantic due west of Portugal? I have waaaay too much land, and I don't really like being in the corner of the world. I like the Azores islands, because they're cool, and blue, and what not. And I'm also writing a short story about them. Anyways, I thought I'd bring this up with the forum at large before I do anything though. So... yeah, what do ya'll think? EDIT: Oh yeah, I guess I should mention what else will change if I decide to do this... The history of Esternarx will be drastically different. For one, I'm completely getting rid of it's entire history up to this point and starting over. The origins of Esternarx will be in ancient Hispania, (Portugal), during the time of the Roman Empire. During the reign of Diocletian, a fisherman who spent his spare time philosophizing and drawing on the idealism of such great men as Plato, Cincinnatus, Cato, and Spartacus, incorporated their ideals into a cohesive and consistent philosophy. He quickly achieved a small following of farmers, fishers, and other plebeians who agreed with him and after facing resistance from Roman authorities, they set sail for the mythical island of Atlantis where they were sure to be able to start anew and found a society based on their philosphy. Instead of Atlantis, they found and settled the Azores Islands, (notably, several centuries before they were found by the Portuguese in 1427 AD RL,) in 269 AD. In addition to their history, obviously other things like Flag, Ethnicity, Language, Religion, and etc. will also change. |
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| Paradise | Aug 20 2007, 03:48 PM Post #2 |
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Why not? That means more land for Free Paradise :D :P |
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| Quaon | Aug 20 2007, 03:48 PM Post #3 |
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I really hate when people spontaneously relocate (as in retcon. I didn't mind the move from Europe to Australia). But if it's not retcon, I'm all for it (remember the idea you had with mayazteka becoming a European Kingdom? Why not just have them take over Esternarx and some patriots moving to Portugal? Also, if you want Durick Veta, you can ahave it. |
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| East Anarx | Aug 20 2007, 04:14 PM Post #4 |
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This will be retcon. |
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| Quaon | Aug 20 2007, 04:25 PM Post #5 |
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I don't like that. That screws with a lot of people's history. |
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| East Anarx | Aug 20 2007, 04:29 PM Post #6 |
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No it doesn't. Nobody currently owns nor has anybody ever owned the Azores. A tiny group of rebels running away from Ancient Portugal in 269 AD doesn't affect anyone either. As for whatever history people might have had with the current incarnation of Esternarx, it's nothing that a couple of doses of imagination won't fix. |
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| Quaon | Aug 20 2007, 04:32 PM Post #7 |
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Why not just retcon the name of Esternarx, have it dissolved, then set up your new thing in the Azores? It makes it easier for us who had dealings with Esternarx in the past. And it really, really screws stuff up if Esternarx never existed. The AU never would have fragmented, for instance. |
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| East Anarx | Aug 20 2007, 04:35 PM Post #8 |
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Fair enough. The AU splintered because of Esternarx? Wow... that's pretty cool... Okay, I'll just retcon the name then. And dissolve New Freedhelm, (Current Esternarx's new name). |
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| Union | Aug 20 2007, 04:39 PM Post #9 |
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THE AZORES ISLANDS ARE THE PROPERTY OF THE HISPANIC STATE, AND WERE ANNEXED IN MAY 2007. Thank you. :) http://z3.invisionfree.com/nationstates/in...?showtopic=4533 That being said, I'd be willing to work something out. |
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| Quaon | Aug 20 2007, 04:39 PM Post #10 |
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New Freedhelm... Damn. If I wasn't so Chiron-loving, I'd have Veta annex it. |
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| Paradise | Aug 20 2007, 05:17 PM Post #11 |
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What the hell is "retcon"? |
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| Quaon | Aug 20 2007, 05:31 PM Post #12 |
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Retroactive Continuity. |
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| Assassin | Aug 20 2007, 05:32 PM Post #13 |
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Hell if I know. But basically, re-writing something. In this case, the entire history of Esternarx. And AA will immediately bully anyone who moves in next door. We're not looking for neighbors, as Australia is pretty much within my 'Sphere of Influence'. |
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| Caronicilia | Aug 20 2007, 05:41 PM Post #14 |
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I don't give a rats ass ^_^ |
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| Quaon | Aug 20 2007, 05:46 PM Post #15 |
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Damn...that screws up the idea I had with you on the future attempt for Chirondom to annex Esternarx. Though, if Hispania has the Azores, this might not happen... |
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| Comrade Queen | Aug 20 2007, 06:20 PM Post #16 |
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I liked Claire Freedhelm. I gave Nagisa's daughter to her. |
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| lebowski2123 | Aug 20 2007, 07:48 PM Post #17 |
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I would imagine that Hispania can part with the Azores, seeing as though it has not once used that territory for anything other then annexing. |
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| East Anarx | Aug 20 2007, 07:49 PM Post #18 |
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Damn, when I was away from the forums. Have you RPed at all with them since then? Wait, you said you'd be willing to work something out. What kind of something? |
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| Union | Aug 20 2007, 07:53 PM Post #19 |
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Well, they are de-facto independent. One island is a military zone for Hispania, and all ships coming from a nation we deem to be a security risk are checked out before going further (if they stop on the Azores). Other than that, its free to do as you will. So, if you can live with a Hispanic military zone over one island, and not having a large say in international affairs, you can relocate there. Essentially, Esternax would be a protecterate of Hispania, but free to do as they want. If you don't mind this I'll give you mroe details. We can retcon the treaty, the history, and the like. I have a wiki article on the Azores Republic you may feel free to edit. |
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| East Anarx | Aug 20 2007, 07:56 PM Post #20 |
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You can't just retcon the whole thing and pretend like you never even set eyes on those pretty little blue islands? Please? :cry: |
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| Comrade Queen | Aug 20 2007, 08:15 PM Post #21 |
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Sutekh-Te-Ankh signed a ceasefire with Hispania on the Azores. |
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| East Anarx | Aug 20 2007, 08:18 PM Post #22 |
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Damn... and retcon that too?[/grasping_at_straws] |
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| Union | Aug 20 2007, 08:39 PM Post #23 |
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I like having the Azores. Gives me control of shipping for that area. |
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| East Anarx | Aug 20 2007, 08:42 PM Post #24 |
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Control which you've never exercised... :unsure: And even if you wanted to exercise that control, it's really a rather small area. At best, you could inconvenience ships for about an hour as they go around the archipelago and continue on their way. |
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| East Anarx | Aug 20 2007, 08:45 PM Post #25 |
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How about I trade you New Zealand for it? New Zealand is pretty nice this time of year. Hell, I'll even throw in New Caledonia. EDIT: That's a pretty good deal, you know. The total land area of New Zealand and New Caledonia being 287,255 km^2 and the total land area of the Azores being only 2,355 km^2. That's like more than 100 times more land area! EDIT2: Or, if you want something closer, I don't think Madeira is taken. Having Madeira would accomplish pretty much everything that having the Azores currently accomplishes, and it's even closer to the Straits of Gibraltar, meaning it gets even more ship traffic. Link |
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