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Military Structure; An idea
Topic Started: Jul 16 2006, 10:41 AM (864 Views)
Noriega
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Quaon
Jul 18 2006, 06:42 AM
Esternarx
Jul 16 2006, 06:36 PM
Sorry, PDAs are Private Defense Agencies. Its a term used a lot in anarcho-capitalist discussion and I forgot who I was talking to for a moment.

You have an anarcho-capitalst forum? Link, please. :D

That wouldn't be judicious. I'd go and Spam it up. Best send a PM.
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Nag Ehgoeg
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Norightsia
Jul 17 2006, 11:07 PM
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Jul 17 2006, 08:14 PM
You? I'll be one of the more weaker nations in Asia.  :rolleyes:

Should be an interesting time.

You may end up with 3.5, it's not a big deal to me! :P ^_^ I need to have a lot! More factors then just military budget to be fair. I vote for Paradise's system before he added War/Peace CPs. And keep the inaccuracy minimum dammit! :gnarkgnark:

Norightsia gets 201 CPs. More than me.
The AA gets 180 CPs. Also more than me.

I like the simplicity of my system. I dislike using the TG-NSE.
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New Harumf
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Nag Ehgoeg
Jul 18 2006, 03:53 PM
Norightsia
Jul 17 2006, 11:07 PM
The Assassination Army
Jul 17 2006, 08:14 PM
You? I'll be one of the more weaker nations in Asia.  :rolleyes:

Should be an interesting time.

You may end up with 3.5, it's not a big deal to me! :P ^_^ I need to have a lot! More factors then just military budget to be fair. I vote for Paradise's system before he added War/Peace CPs. And keep the inaccuracy minimum dammit! :gnarkgnark:

Norightsia gets 201 CPs. More than me.
The AA gets 180 CPs. Also more than me.

I like the simplicity of my system. I dislike using the TG-NSE.

OK, how do I figure out what I get??
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Paradise
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I don't know how you say that in English but in French it is "Règle de trois" ("Rule of three").

First row is Paradise and second row is New Harumf:

90,590,306,734,777.52 --> 1000 CPs
12,250,099,724,293.94 --> ?

1000 * 12,250,099,724,293.94 / 90,590,306,734,777.52 = 135 CPs
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Wadj
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Wait... how does this work?

I'm very confused. I'm also math-deficient.
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Nag Ehgoeg
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Wadj
Jul 18 2006, 04:34 PM
Wait... how does this work?

I'm very confused. I'm also math-deficient.

Take your Defence Budget as stated on thirdgeek. Divide that by Paradise's Defence Budget. Times that number by a thousand.

Easy as 3.14159.

[Edit]

Wadj is in Lazuras. Thirdgeek can't pull economic stats for nations in such a large region. Move and we'll tell you what your stats are.
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New Harumf
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Thank you for the demonstration of your "proposal". I will still wait until all proposals can be voted on to voice my opinion.
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Noriega
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Ok. Therefore my nations' stats using Nag's way.

Norightsia: 201 CPs

New Medea: 17 CPs

Los Angeles: O CPs

Nueva Hispaniola: 15 CPs



Using Paradises 1st way

Norightsia: 723 CPs

New Medea: 115 CPs

Los Angeles: 0 CPs

Nueva Hispaniola: 131 CPs

I much prefer the latter.
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Wadj
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I see how it works. Here's how it breaks down for my nations:

Wadj: 52

Sarawakh: 48

Le Congo Leopold: 21

Saxe-Coburg: 39

El Imperio Mejicano: 20
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East Anarx
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Norightsia
Jul 18 2006, 02:34 PM
Quaon
Jul 18 2006, 06:42 AM
Esternarx
Jul 16 2006, 06:36 PM
Sorry, PDAs are Private Defense Agencies. Its a term used a lot in anarcho-capitalist discussion and I forgot who I was talking to for a moment.

You have an anarcho-capitalst forum? Link, please. :D

That wouldn't be judicious. I'd go and Spam it up. Best send a PM.

Actually, go ahead and spam away, they won't do much to try to stop you. I actually haven't got a single place where I go, but I occasionally, very occasionally, go to:

http://www.bigheadpress.com/ (mainly the blogs on that site though, in fact, I've never even been to the forum there, I don't think its active. the comics are flippin sweet though, check 'em out.)

and

http://www.mises.org/ (again, besides the stories, I sometimes read the blogs of 'em on there and I'll occasionally throw a comment out or something.)

and, where I first heard the term, PDA's,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism (the discussion on there, its pretty heated though, I don't suggest getting into it.)

and, of course, the greatest anarchists site of all time

http://blackcrayon.com/ (I don't really discuss anything on here, but I read a lot and though I haven't hear too much about anarch-capitalism specifically, its worth looking into.)
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Noriega
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Jul 19 2006, 12:23 AM
Norightsia
Jul 18 2006, 02:34 PM
Quaon
Jul 18 2006, 06:42 AM
Esternarx
Jul 16 2006, 06:36 PM
Sorry, PDAs are Private Defense Agencies. Its a term used a lot in anarcho-capitalist discussion and I forgot who I was talking to for a moment.

You have an anarcho-capitalst forum? Link, please. :D

That wouldn't be judicious. I'd go and Spam it up. Best send a PM.

Actually, go ahead and spam away, they won't do much to try to stop you. I actually haven't got a single place where I go, but I occasionally, very occasionally, go to:

http://www.bigheadpress.com/ (mainly the blogs on that site though, in fact, I've never even been to the forum there, I don't think its active. the comics are flippin sweet though, check 'em out.)

and

http://www.mises.org/ (again, besides the stories, I sometimes read the blogs of 'em on there and I'll occasionally throw a comment out or something.)

and, where I first heard the term, PDA's,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism (the discussion on there, its pretty heated though, I don't suggest getting into it.)

and, of course, the greatest anarchists site of all time

http://blackcrayon.com/ (I don't really discuss anything on here, but I read a lot and though I haven't hear too much about anarch-capitalism specifically, its worth looking into.)

It was an empty threat lol. I may check out the comics though, sounds fun.
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Norightsia
Jul 18 2006, 07:48 PM
Ok. Therefore my nations' stats using Nag's way.

Norightsia: 201 CPs

New Medea: 17 CPs

Los Angeles: O CPs

Nueva Hispaniola: 15 CPs



Using Paradises 1st way

Norightsia: 723 CPs

New Medea: 115 CPs

Los Angeles: 0 CPs

Nueva Hispaniola: 131 CPs

I much prefer the latter.

Anyone like to do Catholic Europe?
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Nag Ehgoeg
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Yes. Both me and Paradise have already done you on all three methods. Why not try reading the thread?

Using my method, you'd probably need a minimum amout of CPs (just like in Paradises). Probably 5 CP minimum.

Remember, less is more. The CPs from my method would be spent in a different way to using Paradises - relative to the rest of the world, you'd be getting the same sort of amount regardless of which system. My system is merely more favourable to the private sector (as TG is biased towards capitalism).

So do not vote on "what system gives me the most". Vote on which method you'd prefere to use, as both will likely give you the same unless you have a huge tax (then Paradise's method would favour you) or no tax (in which case my method would favour you).
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Noriega
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Jul 20 2006, 03:35 PM
Yes. Both me and Paradise have already done you on all three methods. Why not try reading the thread?

Using my method, you'd probably need a minimum amout of CPs (just like in Paradises). Probably 5 CP minimum.

Remember, less is more. The CPs from my method would be spent in a different way to using Paradises - relative to the rest of the world, you'd be getting the same sort of amount regardless of which system. My system is merely more favourable to the private sector (as TG is biased towards capitalism).

So do not vote on "what system gives me the most". Vote on which method you'd prefere to use, as both will likely give you the same unless you have a huge tax (then Paradise's method would favour you) or no tax (in which case my method would favour you).

Thank God. I thought they were spent in the same way. In that case, I don't mind using Nag's way, but since Norightsia taxes so high, I prefer Paradise's anyway.
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East Anarx
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Dang, I'd rather use Nag's way then, even though I voted for Paradise's second method.
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Noriega
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Jul 21 2006, 03:51 PM
Dang, I'd rather use Nag's way then, even though I voted for Paradise's second method.

Well, Nag's way doesn't give nations with no tax anymore power, it just weakens everyone else. I like Paradise's better, but Nag's remains inexplicably more popular. Its odd.
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Norightsia
Jul 21 2006, 07:00 PM
Esternarx
Jul 21 2006, 03:51 PM
Dang, I'd rather use Nag's way then, even though I voted for Paradise's second method.

Well, Nag's way doesn't give nations with no tax anymore power, it just weakens everyone else. I like Paradise's better, but Nag's remains inexplicably more popular. Its odd.

It's simpler for the non-mathematical freak :P
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Noriega
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Jul 21 2006, 07:41 PM
Norightsia
Jul 21 2006, 07:00 PM
Esternarx
Jul 21 2006, 03:51 PM
Dang, I'd rather use Nag's way then, even though I voted for Paradise's second method.

Well, Nag's way doesn't give nations with no tax anymore power, it just weakens everyone else. I like Paradise's better, but Nag's remains inexplicably more popular. Its odd.

It's simpler for the non-mathematical freak :P

I had a harder time figuring his out. Of course, I got yours incorrect about 5 times, but it was easy to catch on lol. :shy:
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Norightsia
Jul 21 2006, 06:00 PM
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Jul 21 2006, 03:51 PM
Dang, I'd rather use Nag's way then, even though I voted for Paradise's second method.

Well, Nag's way doesn't give nations with no tax anymore power, it just weakens everyone else. I like Paradise's better, but Nag's remains inexplicably more popular. Its odd.

Same thing. Power is only a concept that is useful in relation to others, at least in RP. If everyone has the same power, then no one has any power.
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Well I don't want to be weakened! <_<
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Norightsia
Jul 21 2006, 10:30 PM
Well I don't want to be weakened! <_<

If you don't want to even the playing field, then don't vote for Nag's idea.
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OOC: Nice new flag Paradise!!
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Noriega
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Jul 21 2006, 10:34 PM
Norightsia
Jul 21 2006, 10:30 PM
Well I don't want to be weakened! <_<

If you don't want to even the playing field, then don't vote for Nag's idea.

I didn't. ^_^
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Jul 22 2006, 11:24 AM
OOC: Nice new flag Paradise!!

Agreed. And Esternarx too.
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Gracias. Its cuneiform. The first known written symbol for "freedom".
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