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Analysis of CE
Topic Started: Jul 1 2006, 02:56 PM (333 Views)
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To begin with, and I don't know if this is the case or not, but you have Only Child Syndrome. Please read the link from wiki, and you can look other places for more specifics.

Then, I will do an OCEAN analysis of your personality, as also described in this link. However, right now, a vast amount of your personality can be linked to you being an only child, or first born, tho I am willing to bet you are an only child.
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Well, you are wrong. I am not an only child.

I was born to a 19 year old mother, her first child. 14 months later my sister followed. I have no other brothers or sisters.

However, my first 14 months of my life were probably greatly affected by the fact that I was the first born child in my mums circle of friends (all of my mums friends waited until their 30's before they had children). That could be a factor if one thinks that such early experiences have a great affect on your future personality and life.
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Please read the article linked above - trhe syndrome applies to both only children and first born children.

The main point being:

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Sulloway has shown firstborns and only children to be more conscientious, more socially dominant, less agreeable, and less open to new ideas compared to laterborns.
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Well, you said that you was willing to be that I was an only child, so I was saying that you were wrong in relation to that.
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Jul 1 2006, 03:15 PM
Well, you said that you was willing to be that I was an only child, so I was saying that you were wrong in relation to that.

If you want me to continue, please don't bother arguing with me over details. The fact that the personality traits of an only child or firstborn do apply to you is all that counts. Now, do those traits fit, or not?
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Hmm.

Well, yes I would say so. I am, particularly, much more dominant and louder than my sister. Infact, I am probably the most dominant and loud of my generation of my family.
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CE, who personifies the "First Born" syndrome rather well, has the following trraits related to this, and to a less than wealthy, tho indulgent childhood , and, I would imagine, a very liberal, non-judgemental upbringing by his parents (please note, none of this is positive or negative, just as it is):

1. You feel insecure if you are not in control of any situation. If you find yourself marginalized, or not in control, you will generally refuse involvement. This is why you have never successfully participated in team activities or sports.

2. You demand attention, and affection. You do not, however, willingly return that attention and affection; it is generally a one way road, coming to you.

3. You are highly intellegent, and you can lie very easily. You are seldom caught in a lie.

4. You do not have an active "fantasy" life. By this I mean you tended, as a child, to play more with literal things. You could not just be given a big empty box and be expected to amuse yourself for hours. This translates to an adult that prefers to stay grounded in the reality rather than seeking escape in fantasy.

5. For reasons you have never understood, you had a hard time making friends as a child, or in school. This was because you could not always be the center of attention, and therefore would act in ways to push people away, so you could rationalise this lack of close friends.

6. Although having few close friends, you are comfortable is social situations with aquaintances, but tend to be more confrontational in your conversation. You do not like "small talk" or "gossip".

7. You never go into anything "half way". If you decide to do something, you emerse yourself 100% into it. In that sense, you lack self-control. You also become frustrated if a barrier appears before you for what you have chosen to emerse yourself in, and will quickly abandon it rather than knocking down the barrier.

Comments - reactions welcome. Both from you, CE, and people that know you well.
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Well, I must say, it's very good!

1) Very true. Very true indeed. I am no big fan of participating in team anything, much prefer to do things on my own or to be given control.

2) Very true again. I do sometimes return that attention and affection though, but normally for my own gains.

3) Haha, very true! I lie too much for my own good. And you're right, I am not often caught.

4) I'm kinda confused by this. I need more explanation.

5) Kinda true maybe. I was never a loner. I always had lots of friends and I can quite easily go to different social groups and be able to get on with them, go out with them etc. However, the next part relates to number 6.

6) I don't have many close friends. At the moment I would say that I would maybe have one, but again I am selective with what I give out. I am quite comfortable, as you say, in social situations, I can talk to anybody and get on fine.

7) Very true. I throw my all into something. And, as you say, if something obstructs me, that I can't get past, then I will just get annoyed, probably ruin it and then give up.
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I'd say 5 was pretty much on the money, 4 is defo true of CE, and 6... hmm... mostly so.

But "very liberal, non-judgemental upbringing" ... Uh... I think you dropped the ball on that one sparky.
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My mother gave me a very liberal upbringing, albeit it was a judgemental one I would.
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Jul 2 2006, 04:34 PM
My mother gave me a very liberal upbringing, albeit it was a judgemental one I would.

What I meant is that CE was not hit or spanked. He was not pressured into particular social behaviors, and was probably not disciplined very much. I am sure he had a strict catholic upbringing, but he did not have dommineering parents, and was not beaten.

Also, I am not claiming papal infalibility with this, just my observations.
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Jul 2 2006, 07:54 PM
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My mother gave me a very liberal upbringing, albeit it was a judgemental one I would.

What I meant is that CE was not hit or spanked. He was not pressured into particular social behaviors, and was probably not disciplined very much. I am sure he had a strict catholic upbringing, but he did not have dommineering parents, and was not beaten.

Also, I am not claiming papal infalibility with this, just my observations.

OMG! How wrong! I was slapped until I was at least 15, and am threatened with it even now. My parents strongly believe that might is right.
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Jul 3 2006, 01:09 PM
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My mother gave me a very liberal upbringing, albeit it was a judgemental one I would.

What I meant is that CE was not hit or spanked. He was not pressured into particular social behaviors, and was probably not disciplined very much. I am sure he had a strict catholic upbringing, but he did not have dommineering parents, and was not beaten.

Also, I am not claiming papal infalibility with this, just my observations.

OMG! How wrong! I was slapped until I was at least 15, and am threatened with it even now. My parents strongly believe that might is right.

And if I remember rightly, CE's parents aren't Catholic either... :unsure:

And if you've paid any attension to the way CE talks about his dad I'd say he was (and is) pressured into particular behaviours.
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Hmm revealing. I was not aware of this behavior, and don't recall it being mentioned before, so, this may alter some of my future directions.

It was, I assume, your father that slapped you around, and not your mother, is this correct?? Did he slap around everyone, or just you??

I was, for some reason, under the impression that your parents were semi-hippies, and I know you actually take pride being born out of wedlock. Did your father adopt you, or is it just assumed parenthood? How old was your father when you were born? I know your mom was in her teens (19, right?) but how old was dad?

This will play important as I delve deeper here.

I also think it is revealing you don't even get point 4 above, even though Nag sees it as obvious! That speaks volumes.
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Jul 3 2006, 03:23 PM
Just because I'm lost in a perminant fantasy world, I just come to judge others as to how deep into the Dreaming they are  uh... I mean how "grounded" they are.

Anyone who's met us knows that I'm away in lala land 24/7 and get a little annoyed by any adult who still can't amuse themselves with an empty box.

And everyone knows CE annoys me most of all :D

Still I may have missed the point, but CE is a very literal person.

No, you got point 4 perfectly. CE didn't even wank off as a child, I am sure.
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Jul 3 2006, 03:01 PM
It was, I assume, your father that slapped you around, and not your mother, is this correct?? Did he slap around everyone, or just you??

I was, for some reason, under the impression that your parents were semi-hippies, and I know you actually take pride being born out of wedlock. Did your father adopt you, or is it just assumed parenthood? How old was your father when you were born? I know your mom was in her teens (19, right?) but how old was dad?

This will play important as I delve deeper here.

I also think it is revealing you don't even get point 4 above, even though Nag sees it as obvious! That speaks volumes.

Oh no, both mother and father, although father still threatens now. :rolleyes:

My aprenst are very far removed from hippies, my dad being a traditional conservative type person and my mum seeing herself as too trendy and all that to be a hippy.

My father is my father lol, not my adopted father (and he was 21 when I was born).

Explain point 4 please!
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Well, your mom is only 38 and your dad is only 40. In the US, when a child is born out of wedlock, and the parents marry after the child is born, even if the father is the natural father of the child, he will legally need to adopt because they were not married when the child was born. Must not be a problem in the UK.

Point 4. One can play in a fantasy world, or a literal world. The box example is perfect. One who sits in the empty box and imagines he is driving a race car, or flying an airplane is using a very active fantasy mode of play. One who sits in an empty box, and just sees himself sitting in an empty box, and gets out, is using a very literal mode of play. We all have elements of both, but I see you as more drawn to the literal world that a fantasy world. Neither is indicitive of anything in particular, and both taken to the extreme is considered not normal.

Also, I think you frequently count your steps when you are walking, and are aware of cracks and patterns on the street and sidewalk, and sometimes alter your steps to fit patterns.

What sort of relationship do you have with your sister?
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Jul 1 2006, 03:04 PM
Please read the article linked above - trhe syndrome applies to both only children and first born children.

The main point being:

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Sulloway has shown firstborns and only children to be more conscientious, more socially dominant, less agreeable, and less open to new ideas compared to laterborns.

OMG I am the first born and am a complete sociopath!
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Jul 3 2006, 03:54 PM
What sort of relationship do you have with your sister?

A very bad one really.

And, as for the box thing, yeah I would say I'm a literal person. I need stuff to work with for my imagination. I couldn;t just have nothing and make something up.
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Well, your mom is only 38 and your dad is only 40. In the US, when a child is born out of wedlock, and the parents marry after the child is born, even if the father is the natural father of the child, he will legally need to adopt because they were not married when the child was born. Must not be a problem in the UK.

Point 4. One can play in a fantasy world, or a literal world. The box example is perfect. One who sits in the empty box and imagines he is driving a race car, or flying an airplane is using a very active fantasy mode of play. One who sits in an empty box, and just sees himself sitting in an empty box, and gets out, is using a very literal mode of play. We all have elements of both, but I see you as more drawn to the literal world that a fantasy world. Neither is indicitive of anything in particular, and both taken to the extreme is considered not normal.

Also, I think you frequently count your steps when you are walking, and are aware of cracks and patterns on the street and sidewalk, and sometimes alter your steps to fit patterns.

What sort of relationship do you have with your sister?

WTF? You have a screwed up parental system!!! Adopting your own kids? That's seriously ****ed up!

And please! "Race car"? "Airplane"? Come one, give me something I would imagine a box to be!
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Please, I do not want this thread to become judgemental, and Nag, I am not analysing you here, so back off. We already know you would have masturbated in the box when you were 14 :D , so CE has every right to say what he did, you do encourage that type of image. I just used the box as an example - it could be a fort, a bunker, a fox-hole, a cave if you turned it over - it doesn't matter.

CE, you made no comment regarding :
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Also, I think you frequently count your steps when you are walking, and are aware of cracks and patterns on the street and sidewalk, and sometimes alter your steps to fit patterns.
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Jul 3 2006, 05:05 PM
CE, you made no comment regarding :
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Also, I think you frequently count your steps when you are walking, and are aware of cracks and patterns on the street and sidewalk, and sometimes alter your steps to fit patterns.

Yes I do, but not all the time. I don't do it as much anymore.
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Jul 3 2006, 05:05 PM
Please, I do not want this thread to become judgemental, and Nag, I am not analysing you here, so back off.

Point taken. OOC posts moved here. I appologise. Please continue.
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Jul 3 2006, 06:16 PM
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Please, I do not want this thread to become judgemental, and Nag, I am not analysing you here, so back off.

Point taken. OOC posts moved here. I appologise. Please continue.

What the hell does OOC have to do with this thread? :P You need some sleep, Nag.
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Out Of CONTEXT! J-e-s-u-s H Christ! Not only that, but you've put an OT post in a thread where I've specifically removed all the OT posts. That's real smart.
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