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| Topic Started: Jun 26 2006, 06:52 PM (1,081 Views) | |
| Nag Ehgoeg | Jul 1 2006, 12:15 PM Post #51 |
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Exactly, and why would they do it for the Pope but not some random lunatic? |
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| New Harumf | Jul 1 2006, 01:01 PM Post #52 |
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Actually, there was a very large group of early christians that believed when John baptized Christ, God entered him, and right before he died on the cross, God left him (Mark - My God, why have you forsaken me. That ONLY appears in the gospel of Mark). Early Gospels were re-written to dispell this theory so this particular sect could be branded heretical. No one even knows what the original Gospels had in them, for goodness sake, so to claim you must follow the gospels is absurd - without dogma, you are following nonsence, and dogma will change are older and earlier texts are discovered. |
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| Quaon | Jul 1 2006, 01:05 PM Post #53 |
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You can't see the quantam mechanics of the universe, but they are still there. Is God so much of a greater stretch? |
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| The Empire of The Iron Fish | Jul 1 2006, 02:21 PM Post #54 |
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I really, 100% do not believe in God. Or any "higher power". And I'm a Confirmed Catholic, who was an altar boy for five years and went to Catholic school. I'm not really sure I have a reason, either. I just....don't believe. |
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| Catholic Europe | Jul 1 2006, 02:51 PM Post #55 |
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It's called materialism. That's your reason. |
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| The Empire of The Iron Fish | Jul 1 2006, 02:59 PM Post #56 |
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Sorry, Tyler, but I am my fucking khakis. Materialism is awesome. Stuff~! Things~! Those are what fill the aching void, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. |
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| Catholic Europe | Jul 1 2006, 03:03 PM Post #57 |
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No. We think they fill the void, and they do a great job of making us think they are filling the void but at the end of the day they don't. Money does not bring you, in any way, shape or form, happiness. |
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| New Harumf | Jul 1 2006, 03:11 PM Post #58 |
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Generally, it is people without money that say this!! :lol: :lol: |
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| New Harumf | Jul 1 2006, 03:12 PM Post #59 |
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Who is Tyler??? |
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| Catholic Europe | Jul 1 2006, 03:16 PM Post #60 |
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Well, that may be true but what I said is probably more true. |
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| Kiensland | Jul 1 2006, 03:23 PM Post #61 |
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One would assume a reference to Fight Club, with the "You're not the contents of your wallet. You're not your fucking khakis. You're the all-singing, all-dancing crap of the world" line. And matrialism powaa. |
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| East Anarx | Jul 1 2006, 03:24 PM Post #62 |
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Actually, money does bring you happiness... to an extent... |
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| Catholic Europe | Jul 1 2006, 03:28 PM Post #63 |
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Superficial happiness, not true happiness. Like I said, it's a drug. It makes you think you're something that you're not. It makes you think you're truly happy when you're not. |
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| East Anarx | Jul 1 2006, 03:38 PM Post #64 |
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You can define happiness any way you want. The truth is, an extremely poor person will be made happier if they have enough to buy food, a house, clothing, etc. If a person is already extremely rich however, the happiness buying power of money is diminished. Even if you call it superficial. Superficial happiness is still happiness... to an extent... |
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| Catholic Europe | Jul 1 2006, 03:52 PM Post #65 |
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But what I'm saying we are all lacking, and which cannot be fulfilled by money, is true happiness. That only comes from faith in my opinion. |
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| Quaon | Jul 1 2006, 05:29 PM Post #66 |
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My good God CE, how can you think like that and still hate communists? |
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| Catholic Europe | Jul 1 2006, 05:33 PM Post #67 |
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I don't hate anyone. I am very socialist, never hid that, but I can never be communist because of a few fundamental disagreements. Firstly, I do believe there is a natural hierarchy to society, I also don't believe that there can be total equality etc. |
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| East Anarx | Jul 1 2006, 05:35 PM Post #68 |
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Socialist economic theory has been proven wrong. Period. Get over it. |
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| Catholic Europe | Jul 1 2006, 05:43 PM Post #69 |
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Only certain socialist models. And I won't abandon something that has, at its core aim, a greater equality for all, that seeks to look after the poor instead of abandoning them to death. I'm not heartless like that. |
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| East Anarx | Jul 1 2006, 05:48 PM Post #70 |
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You are a dumb☭ss if you think that socialism provides its people with anything more than misery and poverty. |
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| Catholic Europe | Jul 1 2006, 05:51 PM Post #71 |
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Well, France is quite socialistic. I wouldn't say it's people are all in pverty and miserable. And, I would say you are the dumbass if you think capitalism, as you favour it, does not lead to the vast majority of people being exploited, dragged into poverty and miserable whilst the white elite (as it would no doubt be) have huge amounts of riches. Now, you're turning me into a fervent red-man, which I don't like. I much prefer to be seen as a third way/corporatist kind of person. We have a duty to the poor. |
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| Quaon | Jul 1 2006, 05:59 PM Post #72 |
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Also, Canada is highly socialist, but they do fine. |
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| East Anarx | Jul 1 2006, 06:16 PM Post #73 |
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By the way, I didn't call you a dumbass. Edit: Dammit, why do I always attack CE!? Ignore this post. |
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| Catholic Europe | Jul 2 2006, 05:44 AM Post #74 |
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And Canada as well! |
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| Nag Ehgoeg | Jul 2 2006, 08:37 AM Post #75 |
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Because the Laws of Nature aren't all loving. They simply are. The Laws of Nature aren't all knowing. They simply are. The Laws of Nature can be codified, explained and counted on. An invisable friend with ultimate power is a huge stretch.
Is that what a man looks like?
Bull dokey. My DS makes me happier now than worshipping god did when I was ten. And about attacking CE... it seems to be a natural response :P Now I believe in this: money implies poverty. When we're advanced enough to produce more than we can ever use, and can do away with this crude form of rationing we will truely have paradise. |
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