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cromn introduces religion to education; cromn schools require theologie unit
Topic Started: Jun 6 2006, 05:46 PM (450 Views)
cromn
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i think that alot that is what is happening with the middle east and terrorism is because these islam extremists and anti muslim comic writers dont understand eachothers religion. maybe not even theyre own and we can fix this by requiring a world religion unit in all history and or social studies class's. the childerin will have to read passages from all holy text and will not just celebrate some but all holidays of all religions from (please forgive me if i spell these wrong) passover to ramedon to palm sunday. the key to world peace is for everyone to understand eachother so what do you guys think please respond.
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cromn
Jun 6 2006, 05:46 PM
i think that alot that is what is happening with the middle east and terrorism is because these islam extremists and anti muslim comic writers dont understand eachothers religion. maybe not even theyre own and we can fix this by requiring a world religion unit in all history and or social studies class's. the childerin will have to read passages from all holy text and will not just celebrate some but all holidays of all religions from (please forgive me if i spell these wrong) passover to ramedon to palm sunday. the key to world peace is for everyone to understand eachother so what do you guys think please respond.

OOC: Spellcheck, my friend. Use it.
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Jun 6 2006, 05:49 PM
cromn
Jun 6 2006, 05:46 PM
i think that alot that is what is happening with the middle east and terrorism is because these islam extremists and anti muslim comic writers dont understand eachothers religion. maybe not even theyre own and we can fix this by requiring a world religion unit in all history and or social studies class's. the childerin will have to read passages from all holy text and will not just celebrate some but all holidays of all religions from (please forgive me if i spell these wrong) passover to ramedon to palm sunday. the key to world peace is for everyone to understand eachother so what do you guys think please respond.

OOC: Spellcheck, my friend. Use it.

We don'y have spell check on these Forums! :o

Or am I mistaken.. :unsure:

Anyways, welcome cromn. :)
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Yes, welcome to our forums!
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Norightsia
Jun 6 2006, 06:29 PM
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Jun 6 2006, 05:49 PM
cromn
Jun 6 2006, 05:46 PM
i think that alot that is what is happening with the middle east and terrorism is because these islam extremists and anti muslim comic writers dont understand eachothers religion. maybe not even theyre own and we can fix this by requiring a world religion unit in all history and or social studies class's. the childerin will have to read passages from all holy text and will not just celebrate some but all holidays of all religions from (please forgive me if i spell these wrong) passover to ramedon to palm sunday. the key to world peace is for everyone to understand eachother so what do you guys think please respond.

OOC: Spellcheck, my friend. Use it.

We don'y have spell check on these Forums! :o

Or am I mistaken.. :unsure:

Anyways, welcome cromn. :)

OOC: I meant Microsoft Word. Oh yeah, and Cromm, you might want to note that in our little universe, Catholic extremists are a lot more prominent than Muslim. Welcoime!
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Jun 6 2006, 06:41 PM
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Jun 6 2006, 06:29 PM
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cromn
Jun 6 2006, 05:46 PM
i think that alot that is what is happening with the middle east and terrorism is because these islam extremists and anti muslim comic writers dont understand eachothers religion. maybe not even theyre own and we can fix this by requiring a world religion unit in all history and or social studies class's. the childerin will have to read passages from all holy text and will not just celebrate some but all holidays of all religions from (please forgive me if i spell these wrong) passover to ramedon to palm sunday. the key to world peace is for everyone to understand eachother so what do you guys think please respond.

OOC: Spellcheck, my friend. Use it.

We don'y have spell check on these Forums! :o

Or am I mistaken.. :unsure:

Anyways, welcome cromn. :)

OOC: I meant Microsoft Word. Oh yeah, and Cromm, you might want to note that in our little universe, Catholic extremists are a lot more prominent than Muslim. Welcoime!

:lol: As if anyone does that! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :P
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Norightsia
Jun 6 2006, 04:29 PM
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Jun 6 2006, 05:49 PM
cromn
Jun 6 2006, 05:46 PM
i think that alot that is what is happening with the middle east and terrorism is because these islam extremists and anti muslim comic writers dont understand eachothers religion. maybe not even theyre own and we can fix this by requiring a world religion unit in all history and or social studies class's. the childerin will have to read passages from all holy text and will not just celebrate some but all holidays of all religions from (please forgive me if i spell these wrong) passover to ramedon to palm sunday. the key to world peace is for everyone to understand eachother so what do you guys think please respond.

OOC: Spellcheck, my friend. Use it.

We don'y have spell check on these Forums! :o

Or am I mistaken.. :unsure:

Anyways, welcome cromn. :)

OOC: No you're right we don't, but you can always copy and paste to word or some other place that does and spell check it there. ;)
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Jun 6 2006, 08:24 PM
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Jun 6 2006, 05:49 PM
cromn
Jun 6 2006, 05:46 PM
i think that alot that is what is happening with the middle east and terrorism is because these islam extremists and anti muslim comic writers dont understand eachothers religion. maybe not even theyre own and we can fix this by requiring a world religion unit in all history and or social studies class's. the childerin will have to read passages from all holy text and will not just celebrate some but all holidays of all religions from (please forgive me if i spell these wrong) passover to ramedon to palm sunday. the key to world peace is for everyone to understand eachother so what do you guys think please respond.

OOC: Spellcheck, my friend. Use it.

We don'y have spell check on these Forums! :o

Or am I mistaken.. :unsure:

Anyways, welcome cromn. :)

OOC: No you're right we don't, but you can always copy and paste to word or some other place that does and spell check it there. ;)

eh, waste of time IMHO...
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Aleruve
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I disagree. They need to teach tolerance of other's religions, not teach their religions. It should be stressed that they don't teach the religion beacause it will cause only trouble.
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The problem truly isn't so much religion as it is a way of life. When a person from an Islamic Nation looks at something, they will see it 100% different from a Jewish or Catholic/Christian person.

People in Islamic countries are brought up so different from the Western World that it creates a culture gap, creating confusion, thus frustration, thus agression.

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cromn
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yes but understanding eachother is what all that comes down to. it needs to be stressed in school from the begining and we also should form a council of religious leaders to come together as a united group of religions that represents theyre religion on topics laid befor us. and debate things out. this council should consist of the pope .the califfs (sorry if i spell that wrong or completely butcher all this) and some one the juish religion appionts as a good representitive. i know the shiite muslims and the other kind i cant remember at the moment have different califfs (if thats even what theyre really called)I think one is elected and one enherrits it i think. if any one wants to touch me up on some of this stuff it would be greatly appreciated thnx :)


apologies to any one affended by my confusion on the muslim religion im a bit rusty
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Jun 6 2006, 09:49 PM
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Jun 6 2006, 08:24 PM
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Jun 6 2006, 05:49 PM
cromn
Jun 6 2006, 05:46 PM
i think that alot that is what is happening with the middle east and terrorism is because these islam extremists and anti muslim comic writers dont understand eachothers religion. maybe not even theyre own and we can fix this by requiring a world religion unit in all history and or social studies class's. the childerin will have to read passages from all holy text and will not just celebrate some but all holidays of all religions from (please forgive me if i spell these wrong) passover to ramedon to palm sunday. the key to world peace is for everyone to understand eachother so what do you guys think please respond.

OOC: Spellcheck, my friend. Use it.

We don'y have spell check on these Forums! :o

Or am I mistaken.. :unsure:

Anyways, welcome cromn. :)

OOC: No you're right we don't, but you can always copy and paste to word or some other place that does and spell check it there. ;)

eh, waste of time IMHO...

OOC: I do it when I'm writing a longer post, but mainly because sometimes my computer freezes when I'm almost finished typing.
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Jun 7 2006, 06:45 AM
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Jun 6 2006, 04:29 PM
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Jun 6 2006, 05:49 PM
cromn
Jun 6 2006, 05:46 PM
i think that alot that is what is happening with the middle east and terrorism is because these islam extremists and anti muslim comic writers dont understand eachothers religion. maybe not even theyre own and we can fix this by requiring a world religion unit in all history and or social studies class's. the childerin will have to read passages from all holy text and will not just celebrate some but all holidays of all religions from (please forgive me if i spell these wrong) passover to ramedon to palm sunday. the key to world peace is for everyone to understand eachother so what do you guys think please respond.

OOC: Spellcheck, my friend. Use it.

We don'y have spell check on these Forums! :o

Or am I mistaken.. :unsure:

Anyways, welcome cromn. :)

OOC: No you're right we don't, but you can always copy and paste to word or some other place that does and spell check it there. ;)

eh, waste of time IMHO...

OOC: I do it when I'm writing a longer post, but mainly because sometimes my computer freezes when I'm almost finished typing.

Yeah, I do that too. :) But never for spell check.
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Religion is arrogant, but there is no religion more arrogant than the modern fad of relativism.
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Noriega
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The sad thing is that the easiest way to pretend to be intellectual is to rail against organized religion. And everyone thinks they are so original doing it... :rolleyes:
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Religion is a matter of personal life of a person.
Since Islam, but Catholicity too, don't understand this, the good message of religion will be a message of disunion.
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Jun 9 2006, 09:01 PM
The sad thing is that the easiest way to pretend to be intellectual is to rail against organized religion. And everyone thinks they are so original doing it... :rolleyes:

There is a lot that deserves criticism of in religion, especially organised religion, but there is also a lot to be criticised about irreligion.
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"Religious suffering is, at one and the same time, the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people".

(Karl Marx, A Contribution to the Critique of Hegel's Philosophy of Right, 1844)

Nothing else to say...
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Jun 10 2006, 05:36 AM
"Religious suffering is, at one and the same time, the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people".

(Karl Marx, A Contribution to the Critique of Hegel's Philosophy of Right, 1844)

Nothing else to say...

Yes there is. Marx was wrong in almost eveything he wrote, just like Freud.
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Syawla
Jun 10 2006, 11:18 AM
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Jun 10 2006, 05:36 AM
"Religious suffering is, at one and the same time, the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people". 

(Karl Marx, A Contribution to the Critique of Hegel's Philosophy of Right, 1844)

Nothing else to say...

Yes there is. Marx was wrong in almost eveything he wrote, just like Freud.

Bingo! An argument from Marx isn't particularly credible at this point in history.
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Syawla
Jun 10 2006, 10:18 AM
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Jun 10 2006, 05:36 AM
"Religious suffering is, at one and the same time, the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people". 

(Karl Marx, A Contribution to the Critique of Hegel's Philosophy of Right, 1844)

Nothing else to say...

Yes there is. Marx was wrong in almost eveything he wrote, just like Freud.

I wouldn't say that.

Frued's key ideas are the basis of all of modern psychology. Your dismissal of him merely shows that you have not undertaken any significant study of the human mind. Granted, most of his ideas and "research" are questionable at best, but his work is hardly irrelevent.

And as for Marx, I havn't conducted a thorough study of his work - so I'm not going to rely on hersay and wiki. Instead I'll take each quote as it comes - and I've got to say I agree with this one.
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Jun 10 2006, 10:32 AM
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Jun 10 2006, 10:18 AM
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Jun 10 2006, 05:36 AM
"Religious suffering is, at one and the same time, the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people". 

(Karl Marx, A Contribution to the Critique of Hegel's Philosophy of Right, 1844)

Nothing else to say...

Yes there is. Marx was wrong in almost eveything he wrote, just like Freud.

I wouldn't say that.

Frued's key ideas are the basis of all of modern psychology. Your dismissal of him merely shows that you have not undertaken any significant study of the human mind. Granted, most of his ideas and "research" are questionable at best, but his work is hardly irrelevent.

And as for Marx, I havn't conducted a thorough study of his work - so I'm not going to rely on hersay and wiki. Instead I'll take each quote as it comes - and I've got to say I agree with this one.

Freud's sole contribution to real psychology is his work on "ego". He has been bigged up out of all proportion in every other sense.
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Most of Freud's ideas wasn't all that great, and his weird sexual theories have been thoroughly proved wrong over the years. However Freud's discovery of the psychological defense mechanism was his most important work. This one thing alone makes Freud one of the greatest thinkers of all time, and pretty much all modern psychology is based on his theories about defense mechanisms/self-delusions.
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Indeed. I totally and completely agree with you Syawla.

Frued's work on the Ego was the only useful thing he brought to psychology.

Of course this has formed the basis for all forms of modern counsilling and was the basis of about what? About 90% of Frued's work?

And as for Frued's "weird sexual ideas":

Yes, this is the key failing of Frued's ideas. It was also a prime motivator for the era in which he lived. As for Frued's weird sexual ideas being disproved over the years, again, I have to agree - because he himself took back a lot of what he said as he moved into old age!

The basis of Frued's sexual ideas was that there are a few basic main psychological motivators, and if one of them was out of balance then it caused psychological problems. As all of his early patients where only being repressed sexually, all his early theories are based off sex.

Frued's real failing was being too general - drawing off single case studies to form the basis of theories. You can't talk to a 30 year old woman and assume a 5 year old boy is sexually repressed.

That said Frued's ideas of childhood sexuality have been thoroughly trounced over the years. Frued's idea of psychological defence mechanisms can even be refuted as an invisable dragon used to prop up the holes in his theories - but they do exist so yes, great mind.
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