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New Anthem for Nag Ehgoeg; *Sigh*
Topic Started: Jun 5 2006, 04:26 AM (278 Views)
Nag Ehgoeg
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Ok when chosing Nag Ehgoeg's national anthem, I just picked my favourite hymn

When Quaon asked me a question about my anthem, I happily dug out my copy of "The Devil's Notebook" to find out the answer.

Uh-oh.

Nag Ehgoeg's national anthem is kinda...

Well it's...

It's kinda the "Hymn of the Satanic Empire" by Anton LaVey. Hardly the best choice of anthem for a Holy League member...

Which brings me to the point of the thread: I need a new anthem.

My favourite Christan Hymn is "My Jesus, My Saviour" followed by "Oh you'll never get to heaven" then many others... but that's hardly anthem material.

Or is it...

Set the stage... Olympic games...

Nagian *Event here* competitios pick up first, second and third place.
They stand on the podium:

1:"I ainta gonna grieve my lord..."
2:"I ainta gonna grie-i-e-i-eve..."
3:"I ainta gonna grive my lord no more..."

1:"I ainta gonna grieve my lord..."
2:"I ainta gonna grie-i-e-i-eve..."
3:"I ainta gonna grive my lord no more..."

All:"I ainta gonna grive my lord no more... O, you'll never get to Heaven, On roller skates..."
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You're a joke lol!
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Yup. But the more I think about it, the more I like "My Jesus" as an anthem.
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Jun 5 2006, 06:59 AM
Yup. But the more I think about it, the more I like "My Jesus" as an anthem.

And how does that go?
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My Jesus, My Saviour,
Lord there is no one like you,
All of my days, I want to praise
The wonders of Your mighty love.

My comfort, my shelter,
Tower of refuge and strength
Let every breath, all that I am
Never cease to worship You.

Shout to the Lord, all the earth let us sing,
Power and majesty, praise to the King!
Mountains bow down and the seas will roar,
At the sound of your name!
I sing for joy at the work of your hands,
Forever I'll love you, forever I'll stand
Nothing compares to the promise I have in You.

My Jesus, my Saviour,
Lord, there is none like You
All of my days, I want to praise,
The wonders of your mighty love
My comfort, my shelter,
Tower of refuge and strength
Let every breath, all that I am
Never cease to worship You

Shout to the Lord, all the earth let us sing,
Power and majesty, praise to the King!
Mountains bow down and the seas will roar,
At the sound of your name!
I sing for joy at the work of your hands,
Forever I'll love you, forever I'll stand
Nothing compares to the promise I have in You.

Shout to the Lord, all the earth let us sing,
Power and majesty, praise to the King!
Mountains bow down and the seas will roar,
At the sound of your name!
I sing for joy at the work of your hands,
Forever I'll love you, forever I'll stand
Nothing compares to the promise I have in You.
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I prefer the first one. Simplicity.
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Oh, the Deacon went down, (2x)
To the cellar to pray, (2x)
He found a jug, (2x)
And he stayed all day. (2x)
Oh, the Deacon went down to the cellar to pray,
He found a jug and he stayed all day,

I ain't a-gonna grieve my Lord,
I ain't a-gonna grieve my Lord,
I ain't a-gonna grieve my Lord no more.

I ain't a-gonna grieve my Lord,
I ain't a-gonna grieve my Lord,
I ain't a-gonna grieve my Lord no more.

O, you'll never get to Heaven
In a rockin' chair,
'Cause the Lord don't want
No lazybones there!
O, you'll never get to Heaven
In a rockin' chair,
'Cause the Lord don't want
No lazybones there!

I ain't a-gonna grieve my Lord,
I ain't a-gonna grieve my Lord,
I ain't a-gonna grieve my Lord no more.

I ain't a-gonna grieve my Lord,
I ain't a-gonna grieve my Lord,
I ain't a-gonna grieve my Lord no more.

O, you'll never get to Heaven
On roller skates
Cause you'll skate right past,
Those pearly gates
O, I can't get to Heaven
On roller skates
Cause I'll skate right by
Those pearly gates

I ain't a-gonna grieve my Lord,
I ain't a-gonna grieve my Lord,
I ain't a-gonna grieve my Lord no more.

I ain't a-gonna grieve my Lord,
I ain't a-gonna grieve my Lord,
I ain't a-gonna grieve my Lord no more.

O, you'll never get to Heaven
In a limousine,
Cause th Lord don't have
No gasoline
O, I can't get to Heaven
In a limousine
Cause th Lord don't have
No gasoline

I ain't a-gonna grieve my Lord,
I ain't a-gonna grieve my Lord,
I ain't a-gonna grieve my Lord no more.

I ain't a-gonna grieve my Lord,
I ain't a-gonna grieve my Lord,
I ain't a-gonna grieve my Lord no more.

If you get to Heaven,
Before I do,
Just drill a hole,
And pull me through.
If I get to Heaven,
Before you do,
I'll plug that hole,
With shavings and glue.

O, th Deacon went down
To th th cellar to pray
He fell on his knees
And I heard him say
O, th Deacon went down
To th cellar to pray
He fell on his knees
And I heard him say

I ain't a-gonna grieve my Lord,
I ain't a-gonna grieve my Lord,
I ain't a-gonna grieve my Lord no more.

I ain't a-gonna grieve my Lord,
I ain't a-gonna grieve my Lord,
I ain't a-gonna grieve my Lord no more.

O, th Deacon came up
From th cellar where he prayed
He picked his Bible up
From th table where it laid
O, th Deacon came up
From th cellar where he prayed
He picked his Bible up
From th table where it laid

I ain't a-gonna grieve my Lord,
I ain't a-gonna grieve my Lord,
I ain't a-gonna grieve my Lord no more.

I ain't a-gonna grieve my Lord,
I ain't a-gonna grieve my Lord,
I ain't a-gonna grieve my Lord no more.

I ain't a-gonna grieve my Lord,
I ain't a-gonna grieve my Lord,
I ain't a-gonna grieve my Lord no more.

I ain't a-gonna grieve my Lord,
I ain't a-gonna grieve my Lord,
I ain't a-gonna grieve my Lord no more.

****

That's not the exact lyrics my churches used but it's the best I can remember. We used to make up all kinds of silly verses in the car on long journeys. The key part of the song is the chorus:

I ain't a-gonna grieve my Lord,
I ain't a-gonna grieve my Lord,
I ain't a-gonna grieve my Lord no more.


The first two lines can be sung in one of 3 main ways:

1) (I ain't a-gonna) Grieve my Lord,
2) I ain't a-gonna grie-i-e-i-eve, or
3) I ain't a-gonna grieve my Lord no more

As this is a traditional black hymn, the lyrics are very flexible, and quite fun.
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The first one.
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Neither are great anthem wise.
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Nag Ehgoeg
Jun 5 2006, 07:21 AM
My Jesus, My Saviour,
Lord there is no one like you,
All of my days, I want to praise
The wonders of Your mighty love.

My comfort, my shelter,
Tower of refuge and strength
Let every breath, all that I am
Never cease to worship You.

Shout to the Lord, all the earth let us sing,
Power and majesty, praise to the King!
Mountains bow down and the seas will roar,
At the sound of your name!
I sing for joy at the work of your hands,
Forever I'll love you, forever I'll stand
Nothing compares to the promise I have in You.

My Jesus, my Saviour,
Lord, there is none like You
All of my days, I want to praise,
The wonders of your mighty love
My comfort, my shelter,
Tower of refuge and strength
Let every breath, all that I am
Never cease to worship You

Shout to the Lord, all the earth let us sing,
Power and majesty, praise to the King!
Mountains bow down and the seas will roar,
At the sound of your name!
I sing for joy at the work of your hands,
Forever I'll love you, forever I'll stand
Nothing compares to the promise I have in You.

Shout to the Lord, all the earth let us sing,
Power and majesty, praise to the King!
Mountains bow down and the seas will roar,
At the sound of your name!
I sing for joy at the work of your hands,
Forever I'll love you, forever I'll stand
Nothing compares to the promise I have in You.

I just spent a week in church camp and I sung that song like thirty times.
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Heh, I used to love Church camp. Any week long camp where you don't sing this at least 20 times, is a fails at Christianity!
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It is still funny. :D
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I think I'm going to go with this:

Forged from the love of liberty
In the fires of hope and prayer
With boundless faith in our destiny
We solemnly declare:

Side by side we stand
For all the people of the world to see,
This our native land
We pledge our lives to thee.

Here every creed and race finds an equal place,
And may God bless our nation
Here every creed and race finds an equal place,
And may God bless our nation.
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Nag Ehgoeg
Jun 11 2006, 10:28 AM
I think I'm going to go with this:

Forged from the love of liberty
In the fires of hope and prayer
With boundless faith in our destiny
We solemnly declare:

Side by side we stand
For all the people of the world to see,
This our native land
We pledge our lives to thee.

Here every creed and race finds an equal place,
And may God bless our nation
Here every creed and race finds an equal place,
And may God bless our nation.

How whimpy and politically correct can you get?? :D :P
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It's the anthem of the football team YOU paired me with :P

Unless you made me Sweden...
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Nag Ehgoeg
Jun 11 2006, 10:38 AM
It's the anthem of the football team YOU paired me with :P

Unless you made me Sweden...

Actually, a randomly seeded and scrambled APL random number generator paired you with that team, not I. Blame the Gods of chance.
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Jun 11 2006, 10:55 AM
Nag Ehgoeg
Jun 11 2006, 10:38 AM
It's the anthem of the football team YOU paired me with :P

Unless you made me Sweden...

Actually, a randomly seeded and scrambled APL random number generator paired you with that team, not I. Blame the Gods of chance.

NH, it isn't chance. Computer random number generators aren't actually random, because that is beyond a computer. It takes an algorithum and changes it each team you "roll." It's pre determined. The only way a computer could really be random is to have a robotic hand roll a die.
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Jun 11 2006, 02:09 PM
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Nag Ehgoeg
Jun 11 2006, 10:38 AM
It's the anthem of the football team YOU paired me with :P

Unless you made me Sweden...

Actually, a randomly seeded and scrambled APL random number generator paired you with that team, not I. Blame the Gods of chance.

NH, it isn't chance. Computer random number generators aren't actually random, because that is beyond a computer. It takes an algorithum and changes it each team you "roll." It's pre determined. The only way a computer could really be random is to have a robotic hand roll a die.

Hmm, let me see, I've been working with computers for 35 years. Oh, and I didn't know that? In the APL language, I can use the command 32?32 which will give me 32 numbers between 1 and 32 without repeating a number, or, randomizing the sequence according to their internal algorithum. Now, the algorithum uses a random seed, i.e., some integer that, if kept as the seed, would produce the same result every time. Every time the ramdom function i.e. ? is called, it also randomizes the seed. Now, if I initialize the random seed to some integer, like the sum of the time stamp (year, month, day, hour, second, millesecond), then call the random function some random number of times, I can guarentee I have no idea what the random seed is, therefore I have produced an unrepeatable sequence, or as random as you can get. This is an old gamer's trick to assure results from a game will not be duplicated.

So, the function is:

f = R<-RANDOMIZE
(QUAD)RL<-+/TIMESTAMP (sum the integers of the time stamp, or some other non-fixed value and assign to the random seed)
I<-0 (assign 0 to I)
LM<-?10000 (assign LM some integer value between 1 and 10000
LP: ->(LM<I<-I+1)/END (run the next line until the value of LM is less than the increasing value of I, then branch to END)
R<-32?32 (assign the random sequence to the function result)
-> LP (branch back to loop, and repeat for the next value of I)
END: (you are done, and have an unduplicatable sequence)

Close enough for union work, OK?

PS: It is because of this feature that the APL language is used by actuarials to generate random results tables for calculating mortality rates.
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Problem there is...

Well, if a number isn't repeated...

But...

Uh...

Damn...

Shut me up.

Quaon, little help please?
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Nag Ehgoeg
Jun 11 2006, 02:50 PM
Problem there is...

Well, if a number isn't repeated...

But...

Uh...

Damn...

Shut me up.

Quaon, little help please?

Yes, but the seed, as far as I know, isn't actually randomized: it's cycled through a custom cycle made for that one computer...I think...or maybe I'm just talking crap now.
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Quaon
Jun 11 2006, 12:09 PM
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Jun 11 2006, 10:55 AM
Nag Ehgoeg
Jun 11 2006, 10:38 AM
It's the anthem of the football team YOU paired me with :P

Unless you made me Sweden...

Actually, a randomly seeded and scrambled APL random number generator paired you with that team, not I. Blame the Gods of chance.

NH, it isn't chance. Computer random number generators aren't actually random, because that is beyond a computer. It takes an algorithum and changes it each team you "roll." It's pre determined. The only way a computer could really be random is to have a robotic hand roll a die.

Chance is relative. Even pseudo-random numbers are good enough for our purposes. Maybe the random number generator has it out for you, but the point is that NH doesn't. That will be good enough for all of us.
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But of course.

The seed is just an interger. The shuffle function that randomises the random seeds has to be a pre-coded algorithum.

But still, given that the sides of a dice or coin cannot be equally wieghted, it's as close to random as anything else.
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You be talking crap now. I can do a little more research if you want the actual limitations of APL, but I know the seed can legitimately be an integer from 0 to 10E27th, which is a pretty broad range, considering, and because this language is the ONLY one I know of used to generate numbers for actuarial work, it has their confidence of producing pretty random sequences.

Nag, if you want 32 numbers that can repeat, the expression is 1?32 (rho) 32, where (rho) is the actual greek letter rho (APL has the greek character set as well as the latin, where the greek letters are reserved for functions. (rho) means repeat the number on the right the number of times specified on the left).
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The point is, that you're still generating numbers from a predefined set. "Pretty broad" isn't infinate.

Now as Al Araam said, it's more than random enough. As I said, I don't claim to understand the process of generating random numbers beyond coding an IRC dice roller.

Why? Because nothing needs to be truely random. And if it does, we all better hope god doesn't exist...
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