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| Silvio Berlusconi; Splitted topic | |
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| Topic Started: Mar 17 2006, 08:41 AM (654 Views) | |
| Filo | Mar 17 2006, 08:41 AM Post #1 |
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Power to the Peoples guys!!!! This 9 of April i hope Italy regain its freedom !!!...if not how is living in your country? |
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| Rhadamanthus | Mar 17 2006, 08:42 AM Post #2 |
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Why isn't Italy free? |
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| Catholic Europe | Mar 17 2006, 09:52 AM Post #3 |
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He is obviously anti-Berlusconi. |
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| Rhadamanthus | Mar 17 2006, 09:59 AM Post #4 |
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Oh, sorry, I didn't even think. |
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| Paradise | Mar 17 2006, 11:42 AM Post #5 |
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Maybe he meant he wanted a free Italy in Nationstates. In other words, he's asking CE to liberate the Italy peninsula ^_^ |
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| Filo | Mar 17 2006, 12:24 PM Post #6 |
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Very, but very, OCC: you have right. i'm against this "So-called" Governament. From five years ago; "our" president is makng laws to himself and his lacches; we have miniters risking a war with islamic world and neo-fascist in power-keys seats...ecomy is goind to hell and the only things that italian people see is Berlusconi on every Tv station sayng that all is good and all il well and that the "Comunistes"(My Grandmother, she was comunist, don't cosnider this left...neither left but a masked center)of the opposition that change and distort his words... he has paragonated himself to Degasperi(Our first democratic premier), to Napoleon, and to Jesus Christ !!!!!!!!!!!(And to Degaulle and Churchill as well...but of this two i'm not sure). I has said "To be invested by Holy ghost with the task to save Italy from Comunism" and other amenities. meanwhile television is absultly under his Iron grip, three of the seven national more important channels are his property, other three are state channels and so controlled by the Govern, the last is to little to fight... Many comics are outlawed by television and the others must alway mesure word befor to make a show. Rai(state television) is been neutralized making only insulse and very boring programs...because the premier televisons will not suffer as under the left administration when good rai television make more auditel tham Mediaset. But is not end... One of our minister was spying his rivals to elections...one of our minister is collused with mafia(But a personal law prevent the police to arrest him); one of our minister sustain openly racism and bigottry. Our governament has destroyed the judical power prevent it to work alone. Our international credit is less that San marino one(or Burkina faso one for the matter) and the only thing that we are good for is sustain Bush(di per se it is not wrong) and Putin(but the bastard has cut our gas forniture...) Our banking sistem is in complete dissaray...with the director of Banchitalia working with speculators to gain some more moneys... And Berlusconian italian have many other things wrong that i need the whole forum to show them at you. BUT there's one possibility...at 9/4 the Italian people can throw away this will e coyote gov(Laking absolutly of the scharm of Will E coyote of Warner but doing the same disasters). Wecan vote for the left coalition and put away this criminals...and retake our future and freedom... If not...well Argentina will seem an happier place... Sorry to all for this cry but i need it... Evrey one that wish know the true about Italy have only to ask... |
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| New Harumf | Mar 17 2006, 01:10 PM Post #7 |
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OK, now tell us how you really feel! :lol: :D :P |
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| Filo | Mar 17 2006, 02:16 PM Post #8 |
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This is is not the place...i post it on the offtopic section...take this as an outlet from a democratic citezen... |
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| Quaon | Mar 17 2006, 02:20 PM Post #9 |
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The thread has run its course. :lock: |
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| Noriega | Mar 17 2006, 02:20 PM Post #10 |
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I salute your chivalry. ;) And furthermore, my cousin lived in Mlan, but left the country because he was fed up with Berlusconi. So I have to agree with Filo. |
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| Paradise | Mar 17 2006, 04:42 PM Post #11 |
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I know very little of Silvio Berlusconi, but he can't be worse than GWB! ^_^ |
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| Quaon | Mar 17 2006, 05:03 PM Post #12 |
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Amen. |
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| Filo | Mar 17 2006, 05:45 PM Post #13 |
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How many peoples read Italian here? I may post some law done by his gov. But meanwhile THESTORY SO FAR... this thread has an hig political level so the Mods can stop it after this post if they think is necessary...but i suggest to take this an information of first hand about appennig when the people lost interest to politic in a 1st world country as Italia was Once upon a time there was the cold war... Posted Image We have the most strong comunist party of Europe Posted Image but in 50 years the left never come to power; for ona hand because Italian people is a conservative one; for the other because Americans(Yes boys...just you) don't want Italy fell under comunism and gave many money to DC... DC(Standing for Democrazia Cristiana or Christian democracy) Posted Image Ruled this country for almost 50 Years(only Liberal party in Japan has defeat this record ruling since the '45 are now 61 years of ininterructed rule upon the Risin' sun land). In all this 50 years ther are many governments in which DC was ever present(Yes you have understand well from 1946 to 1992 DC was evre part of a gov)...but the trubles come with this man Bettino Craxi Posted Image this man was the leader of the Socialist party, tecnically a left one; but since the '46 submitted to the Comunist. he disfrachised the PSIPosted Image from the comie guardianship and allied it with DC and other liberal parties. But Craxi was not a true socialist(my Grand father was a socialist and now are round in the coffin) but only a social climber interested to the power. And when i took this power... There are the 70's, a trubled time for italy with the comunist and fascit terrorist groups that run free. The most infamous of these grup was the B.R(Brigate rosse aka Red Brigades); they have a distort view of Marxim leninism and belive that with mirate acts they could lead to a proletarian revolution...well they were only murders...one of their most impostant kill was Aldo Moro; i belive one of the most important, onest and good italian politicians Posted Image They captured and killed Moro because Craxi refused to talk with them and release some arrested terrorist. Craxi used the B.R to gain support and meanwhile governed the country as his persona fief taking with him the DC. Its a period of rapid growt but also of political treason and corruption unseen in evrey other european status... Many of the Dirty Craxian work was made by this man Posted Image(at left of Craxi). He was a singer, and a good one, but also a Entrepreneur and he want money fast and now, so merged with Craxi in many dark affairs. And in little time he buy Milan and three televison also using force and menaces, and alway been the shadow behind Craxi and other politicians robbing the country. BUT In year 1992 come to the attentions of the judges(Remember theya are comunist soldier figthing for father Stalin) a little affair called Tangentopoli. I don't stay to explai you what appening but this judges found that the great economic hole was created by the corruptions of the state and the parties(Obviusly the ruling party). I remeber ,also if i was young, people launching pennies at Craxi shouting and Crying "Ladro...ladro..ladro" Dc collapsed(Brcause there onest person also inside it) and for the first time the new left leading party, the once called PDS(bord after the collpase opf the URSS and finally free of idelogical walls) Posted Imagehave hope to win elections and change the face of the country... BUT This manPosted Image lead a just born party (Forza Italia-i don't show you the simbol i hate it) and with mafia and ex.dcs help win the lection in 1994... The second part of the Tragi-comedy i will post next day...enjoy this for now |
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| Paradise | Mar 17 2006, 07:50 PM Post #14 |
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Post them. Italian words are similar to French words, I can probably get the sense of the laws.
I heard of the B.R. before. Has there been an important event about them lately?
Don't worry, we know very well what it is to be governed by "mafia" in Canada. Two words: sponsorship scandal <_< |
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| Noriega | Mar 17 2006, 10:17 PM Post #15 |
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La Bella Cossa Nostra! Perpetuating the Italian sterotype for all time. ^_^ |
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| Filo | Mar 18 2006, 04:42 AM Post #16 |
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@Paradise: ok i need just the time to found them on the official gazettier and then i 'll post. Recently the B.R have killed a tradeunion man and an secretary of Work ministery; This new incarnation of B.R is lead by a woman called Nadia Lioce but are shattered fragments of a long-dead group. @Norigthisia: Yes mafia was a stereoptipe; but in Italy was live and very powerfull; many memebers of the present Gov are inquisited for Mafia collusion starting with the premier. @All i have forgot to tell you about Piazza fontana and Bologna station; two of the most vicius terrorist strike the hit my country. make by far-right terrorist were bomb actions that killed many peoples; no one of this fascist scum is in jail because the police was with them and "No evidences is been found of their guilty" |
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| Catholic Europe | Mar 18 2006, 08:07 AM Post #17 |
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Well, just hope Italy retains conservatives really. |
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| Filo | Mar 18 2006, 08:55 AM Post #18 |
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It not just a problem of Conservative party(Also if i'm social-liberal) but how Silvio will rule my country...and well...he don't rule a country but a private property and if he will win will be the end for Italy... |
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| Catholic Europe | Mar 18 2006, 09:05 AM Post #19 |
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I think that's a bit of an exaggeration. |
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| Wadj | Mar 18 2006, 10:02 AM Post #20 |
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Hasn't Italy changed governments in every election since the fall of Mussolini? You can probably manage to vote this Berlusconi character out of office. From what I've read here in America, he's always seemed to be a shady character. Besides, if the government controls all the media, you know you're in a bad situation. I hope you can boot him out and get a nice left-leaning government. Or, barring that, at least a competent one. |
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| Catholic Europe | Mar 18 2006, 11:41 AM Post #21 |
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Left-leaning. Eurgh! |
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| East Anarx | Mar 18 2006, 01:55 PM Post #22 |
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I didn't know Filo was from Italy. I was just in Italy these past 7 days... it sucked.. the food was terrible, the bathrooms cost like 2 euros to use, there was graffitti, trash, and stray dogs everywhere... It made me realize just how lucky I am to be in America. I mean, we may have Bush in office and thousands of other problems, but at least its not as bad as Italy... EDIT: *Continued Ranting* Plus, the hotels suck in Italy, they're tiny, the showers flood the bathroom when you use 'em, the walls are paper thin and you can hear everything going on in the next room (Yes, everything... that includes the elderly tourist couple two doors down going at it like dogs in heat.... ewwwhhh) The monuments and stuff, like the colloseum, the sistine chapel, the vatican, the venetian canals, all that stuff in florence, and the ancient roman ruins were all sort of a dissapointment. You couldn't even enjoy it what with all the damn tourists swarming over every inch of the landscape and polluting the lighting with their flashing cameras and the damn babies crying... (who the hell takes their 2 year old son to Italy?) Honestly, the best part of the entire trip was the fact that the drinking age is 16 in Italy.... hehe, that and all the hott canadian chicks that were in our group... mmmm, strawberry vodka... |
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| Catholic Europe | Mar 18 2006, 02:36 PM Post #23 |
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Oh my God. I don't believe what I have just read. Italy is the BEST country in the world. Such a stupid, trashy, arrogant American teenager. |
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| East Anarx | Mar 18 2006, 05:55 PM Post #24 |
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:whistle: |
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| Paradise | Mar 18 2006, 06:41 PM Post #25 |
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Please please, here is not the place to start a trans-atlantic conflict. We're talking about Silvio Berlusconi and Italy. |
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