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A plot to take over Israel
Topic Started: Oct 6 2005, 09:01 PM (774 Views)
Catholic Europe
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OOC: This will mean war.
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Rhadamanthus
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Oct 14 2005, 06:45 AM
OOC: This will mean war.

OOC:
Weren't you planning on invading anyway (the World War thread)?
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Nag Ehgoeg
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OOC: Damn it! What ever happened to shady deals and the obvious comprimise only occuring in hindsight? Oh well... I guess I'm perfectly happy with this arrangement.
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The Socialist Sheikdom of Egyria
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OOC: Egyria isn't. For one, they've been snubbed here - they don't get to send a contingent, but these other nations do? For another, Egyria is very suspicious of nationalizing Israel to ANY extent, and is worried that the Papacy will use the occupation as a pretext for a war that Egyria is not ready for.
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Oct 14 2005, 12:56 PM
OOC: Egyria isn't. For one, they've been snubbed here - they don't get to send a contingent, but these other nations do? For another, Egyria is very suspicious of nationalizing Israel to ANY extent, and is worried that the Papacy will use the occupation as a pretext for a war that Egyria is not ready for.

OOC:

Egyria hasn't made known any interest in sending a contingent, so how could we ask them to?
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The Socialist Sheikdom of Egyria
Oct 14 2005, 11:56 AM
OOC: Egyria isn't. For one, they've been snubbed here - they don't get to send a contingent, but these other nations do? For another, Egyria is very suspicious of nationalizing Israel to ANY extent, and is worried that the Papacy will use the occupation as a pretext for a war that Egyria is not ready for.

OOC

I sent you a PM a few days ago about Egyria participating in a combined force with the Trilateral Commission to attack Israel, but you didn't reply to it. I assumed you either weren't interested or oppoesed my plot.

Right now I think the TC, RD, NE, and Wadj, are enough to finish the job, and if there are too many nations involved there won't be enough of this piece of land for everyone.

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Secre message

To: Emperor Melchior of the Resplendent Dawn, Sultan Ibrahim of Wadj
From: The Trilateral Commission

The Trilateral Commission doesn't see its involvement in Israel in starkly religious terms at all, so Sultan Ibrahim need not worry about sectarian troubles. Freedom of religion is always guaranteed to the Trilateral Commission's citizens, and our occupation in Israel will not change our policies. The Trilateral Commission does not see itself as the protector of Jews; ours is a secular and atheist organization. Several leaders of the Trilateral Commission sees the reconstruction of the Jewish Temple to be a personal ambition although this is certainly a easily dispensable component of our asking terms. As long as the Trilateral Commission is able to secure an economic, political, and military presence in Israel, we will be satisfied.

Concerning the Resplendent Dawn's questions about our reputation - the Trilateral Commission offers peace and stability to all citizens who are loyal and supportive of the government. However we will not hesitate to punish those who advocate rebellion or seek to subvert our control and government. But the Resplendent Dawn and Wadj will not need to worryabout any actions we undertake, as we will use the minimally intrusive methods for ensuring stability and military victory.

Finally, we disagree with Wadj's proposal for co-sovereignty of Israel. THe occupation of Israel should be a cooperative arrangement of nations, and will not be a breeding ground for alienated, antagonistic religious factions as is Wadj's legitimate fear. We prefer to divide this land into several sectors. All those involved - TC, RD, Wadj, and the UN/NE should strive for religious and social tolerance and stability for the people. This is the map of our propsoed borders:

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Rhadamanthus
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Secret Response

Your response has greatly reduced our fears, and we feel that your proposal is sensible and fair.

Your borders seem appropriate, and we assume that the powers involved will cooperate fully in securing and defending the entire region.

Is it fair to assume that the borders between the occupation sectors will remain open?
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SECRET MESSAGE

FROM: Sultan Ibrahim of Wadj
TO: The Trilateral Commission

Your borders seem fair. As long as the people of the Holy Land are allowed to move about freely, I am perfectly willing to agree to this arrangement.
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Menhad
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Message to Wadj:

Well done I say, but my people were cursaders that got a little side track, any way to the point, I wish to have a small state in your lands, I am forever more your humble ally.
Signed
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Tristan da Cunha
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Secret message

THe borders will be basically open to any religious pilgrims, although each side should be able to further elaborate and refine this policy. The Trilateral Commission intends to welcome all religious travellers, but they will be monitored for peaceful intentions. We will prevent any subversives from entering our territory.
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New Harumf
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Any partitioning of Israel that does not include New Harumf will be considered an act of war, particularly if it includes ANY european powers.
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The Socialist Sheikdom of Egyria
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That's basically ditto for Egyria.
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Tristan da Cunha
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This will be quite an interesting three way war between Egyria, CE, and TC & co. unless my actions drive Egyria and CE to ally with each other!
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OOC I can think of no better place for a world war to begin than Israel!!
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Oct 16 2005, 12:11 AM
This will be quite an interesting three way war between Egyria, CE, and TC & co. unless my actions drive Egyria and CE to ally with each other!

Well, I think that the Pope would ally with Egyria. It's just that Egyria (in OOC terms) won't. So it won't happen because he won't do that.

The Papacy and myself would though because it would be a shrewd move. Reduce your enemies and gain an ally to fight with.
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The Socialist Sheikdom of Egyria
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Egyria would never ally with CE for IC reasons.

A three-way war - or at best (for you) Egyria grudgingly holding their fire on Papal ships - is more realistic.

I know that the Papacy's motives for controlling Jerusalem directly are supposed to be secret but... c'mon, this is friggen Jerusalem. Of COURSE you'd want it. Egyria can infer that if you were to "liberate" Israel, you wouldn't give it up.
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Oct 16 2005, 11:05 AM
Egyria would never ally with CE for IC reasons.

A three-way war - or at best (for you) Egyria grudgingly holding their fire on Papal ships - is more realistic.

I know that the Papacy's motives for controlling Jerusalem directly are supposed to be secret but... c'mon, this is friggen Jerusalem. Of COURSE you'd want it. Egyria can infer that if you were to "liberate" Israel, you wouldn't give it up.

That's fine. I would accept that I attack from the North and you attack from the South. Although we won't be allis we won't attack each other....at least I won't attack you until I have secured the North.

Is that acceptable?
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Oct 16 2005, 11:11 AM
The Socialist Sheikdom of Egyria
Oct 16 2005, 11:05 AM
Egyria would never ally with CE for IC reasons.

A three-way war - or at best (for you) Egyria grudgingly holding their fire on Papal ships - is more realistic.

I know that the Papacy's motives for controlling Jerusalem directly are supposed to be secret but... c'mon, this is friggen Jerusalem.  Of COURSE you'd want it.  Egyria can infer that if you were to "liberate" Israel, you wouldn't give it up.

That's fine. I would accept that I attack from the North and you attack from the South. Although we won't be allis we won't attack each other....at least I won't attack you until I have secured the North.

Is that acceptable?

New Harumf plans to attack, capture and hold Jerusalem. We will then turn it over to the Holy See when appropriate. We will not tolerate Europeans in Jerusalem.
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Troop buildup and militarization in the Resplendent Dawn

Hundreds of Trilateral Commission Antonov An-225 transport planes have begun a round-the-clock transport of soldiers and military equipment from East Asia to the Resplendent Dawn, with authorization from Al Araam to fly over their airspace. Everyday almost 1 entire division, or 10,000 soldiers, arrive in the Resplendent Dawn, along with armor, supplies, artillery, vehicles, and other equipment. The Trilateral Commission is also building several huge temporary military camps in the Resplendent Dawn to support the burgeoning military population.
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Oct 16 2005, 01:43 PM
New Harumf plans to attack, capture and hold Jerusalem. We will then turn it over to the Holy See when appropriate. We will not tolerate Europeans in Jerusalem.

Well, you can join the war effort with me then.
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Menhad
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Menhad would back an attack of Jerusalem.
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Oct 17 2005, 07:24 AM
Menhad would back an attack of Jerusalem.

On my side I hope.
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The Socialist Sheikdom of Egyria
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Egyria would be more likely to make a direct assault by sea on Haifa and then to Jerusalem than advance from the south. Strategically its probably a bit easier and in any case Jerusalem is the prize of Israel.

This could prove interesting!
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Oct 17 2005, 09:41 AM
Egyria would be more likely to make a direct assault by sea on Haifa and then to Jerusalem than advance from the south. Strategically its probably a bit easier and in any case Jerusalem is the prize of Israel.

This could prove interesting!

Well, Catholic Europe would obviously come down from the North and march straight to Jerusalem.
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Shall we move over to W&N?
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