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Saxe-Coburgian Claims; These Lands are Rightfully Ours!
Topic Started: Apr 20 2005, 09:33 PM (1,628 Views)
Rhadamanthus
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Part of the Czech Republic, I believe.

And Camizu is in real life Cameroon.
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Prime Minister Sievers is issuing a live television statement:
"Dr. Camizu can go to he-"
"This is a Test of the Saxe-Coburg Emergency Broadcast System. This is only a test. BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP. This has been a test of the Saxe-Coburg Emergency Broadcast System. This was only a test. Thank You."
"And Furthermore, with his ridiculous claims to a region that it is obviously not his own, he is being ridiculous! I mean, Bohemia? Come on! If you had said Burkina Faso, I would have said, sure. But its obviously an Imperialist Fabrication! Well anyway, go ahead. Take over Bohemia and see what happens. I'm calling your bluff, Camizu. Move in. No more rhetoric. I dare you."
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Could Elyk the small create a country in Africa, Middle-East or no?
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Sure. Each player may have one other nation on each map.
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How do you do it?
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Apr 21 2005, 09:03 PM
Prime Minister Sievers is issuing a live television statement:
"Dr. Camizu can go to he-"
"This is a Test of the Saxe-Coburg Emergency Broadcast System. This is only a test. BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP. This has been a test of the Saxe-Coburg Emergency Broadcast System. This was only a test. Thank You."
"And Furthermore, with his ridiculous claims to a region that it is obviously not his own, he is being ridiculous! I mean, Bohemia? Come on! If you had said Burkina Faso, I would have said, sure. But its obviously an Imperialist Fabrication! Well anyway, go ahead. Take over Bohemia and see what happens. I'm calling your bluff, Camizu. Move in. No more rhetoric. I dare you."

And now the European colonialists call Camizu imperialist. We only want our people to be one, same as everybody else. There are no fabrications involved, anymore than Saxe-Coburg's own claims. Strange that they seem to ignore that. Dr. Camizu does not wish to "take over" Bohemia. He wishes to welcome those lands back into the Union of which they were originally a part. Dr. Camizu suspects that Saxe-Coburg fears a Camizuan Bohemia for two reasons. One, the prince and the prime minister hate the ideat that their own oppressed people will see Camizuan freedoms first hand. Second, he fears the idea of a united Camizu, a powerful African state sitting on his doorstep.

But this game must end. Dr. Camizu is nobody's fool. The Saxe-Coburgian imperialists will not hold Bohemia hostage to their depraved lusts. Dr. Camizu declares that Bohemia belongs to the nation of Camizu and has done so for more than two thousand years. Compared to that, Saxe-Coburg's own claims are pathetic. Dr. Camizu is going not going to be manipulated into making a move before the time is appropriate. But know this, any threat to Bohemia, is a threat to Camizu.
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"We must restore order in the Rhineland! We must bring the word of God again! I have seen fit to claim the following territories in the name of the Holy Prussian Empire."
-Neu Kaiser Gustavus Adolphus
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Apr 21 2005, 09:05 PM
How do you do it?

Make another nation like you made this one. Join one of those regions, and roleplay. Talk to the mapmaker for those regions, if you want, but let them know that you are part of this region, just so they know whats up. You can only use one forum account here, however, even if you make a nation in one of those regions.
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Apr 21 2005, 09:13 PM
"We must restore order in the Rhineland! We must bring the word of God again! I have seen fit to claim the following territories in the name of the Holy Prussian Empire."
-Neu Kaiser Gustavus Adolphus

I thought the Rhineland was on the western side of Germany.
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A public address from Elyk the Small to all of the European Continent...

Friends, Romans, Countrymen. Lend me your ears! If we keep fighting over territorial and border disputes, im afraid Europe might be plunged into a Continental War! Let us try and work this problem out calmly and rationally.

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Prime Minister Sievers would like to negotiate with Prussia on the subject of its recent claims. We would be willing to turn the other cheek if Prussia were to annex parts of Silesia, but these Saxon states are Saxe-Coburgian, and will become part of Saxe-Coburg. As for Bohemia, I think you will have to deal with Camizu there. I offer Silesia in exchange for the right to annex the rogue Saxon States.

As for you, Dr. Camizu, until you actively occupy Bohemia, peace shall remain in the region.
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Senior Belgium officer Commander Bos hinder van Steenberen III is still serious about the Hannoverian States belonging to Elyk the Small. A lot of our people are located there and we are very good allies with them before the German Civil War of 2005. Most of them wish to belong to our nation.
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Dr. Camizu has not intention of "occupying" Bohemia, any more than he "occupies" the main part of his nation.
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To Elyk: The Hannoverian States will be Saxe-Coburgian

To Dr. Camizu: Do you actually control Bohemia? Have you set up a government? Do you have any control over their actions?
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Apr 21 2005, 09:41 PM
To Elyk: The Hannoverian States will be Saxe-Coburgian

To Dr. Camizu: Do you actually control Bohemia? Have you set up a government? Do you have any control over their actions?

No, they are currently in bondage to rogue state euro colonialists. They want to join Camizu, but governments like Saxe-Coburg won't let them.
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Since Dr. Camizu is obviously filled with hot air, Prime Minister Sievers will ignore all of his claims to Bohemia until he can actually prove that

1. He can get there
2. He can exert control over the populace
3. He can set up a government

When any one of the above criteria , or a combination of two, or all three of them are met, Saxe-Coburg shall declare war on Dr. Camizu. Until then, Saxe-Coburg shall ignore all claims of Camizu to Bohemia.
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Apr 21 2005, 09:58 PM
Since Dr. Camizu is obviously filled with hot air, Prime Minister Sievers will ignore all of his claims to Bohemia until he can actually prove that

1. He can get there
2. He can exert control over the populace
3. He can set up a government

When any one of the above criteria , or a combination of two, or all three of them are met, Saxe-Coburg shall declare war on Dr. Camizu. Until then, Saxe-Coburg shall ignore all claims of Camizu to Bohemia.

In that case, how about Saxe Coburg proves its historical claims with authoritative scholarly sources. Dr. Camizu is already working on a plan to save Bohemia from your evil, but things take time. He is a patient man.
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Sievers,
Can you extend Elyk the Small's territory on the map now? Just that N.E. part i said earlier,
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From "The Aftermath of the German Civil War," Report to a joint session of the House of Representatives and the Senate of the United States of America by Brian Maxwell, Expert on Germany and Undersecretary of the Department of Intenational Affairs:
"Though many of the old major German states have risen back to power after the Civil War, Such as Rosenwald, Saxe-Coburg, and Prussia, there are still dissenting regions. Parts of former Hannover and Saxony have refused to rejoin Saxe-Coburg. These regions were once controlled by Saxe-Coburg, but this was before German unification in the 1870's. Certain right-wing fundamentalists have taken over these regions and instilled totalitarian regimes. As for Rosenwald and Prussia..."

"Neo-Nazis Seize Control of Parts of Former Germany" The Chicago Tribune, 13 April 2005

"Coburg. Neo-Nazis have siezed parts of Former Germany. Three major nations have risen from the ashes of Germany. These include Prussia, Rosenwald, and Saxe-Coburg. While Prussia and Rosenwald appear at the moment to have peacefully annexed most of their former areas, Saxe-Coburg is still having problems bringing its former territories under its control. Two areas that were once a part of Saxe-Coburg have been seized by Ultra-Conservative German Terrorist Organizations. These regions are in the regions of Hannover and Saxony, both controlled by Saxe-Coburg directly following the Unification of Germany before World War I. Prime Minister Sievers has vowed to regain control of the areas that he believes are rightfully Saxe-Coburg. Whether or not he can actually succeed without causing another war in Germany remains to be seen."

Edict of Hannover, 1524: "And, Saxe-Coburg shall retain all control of Hannover and all the lands it encompasses."

Edict of Leipzig, 1458: "All of the Lands that Once Comprised the Electorate of Saxony shall now become the possessions of Saxe-Coburg, and all the regions of Saxony shall never be separated from each other."

((OOC: As you can see, I am working with a Germany that has a much different history than the real Germany))
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NEWS! A RECENT EDITION OF THE ROSENWALD PRESS HAS THIS TO SAY!
PS: <<<The part of the large article that trails off says..."then a Nazi at a sale on jack boots...">>>
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Dr. Camizu, in the interest of peaceful international relations, has decided to change his tone.

Dr. Camizu humbly asks Saxe-Coburg to allow his officials to travel through that country in order to reach Bohemia so they can administer it. He knows that the Prime Minister and Prince are honorable men, and hopes that they will accept his humble request.
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Saxe-Coburg regrets to inform the people of Camizu that their request for passage into Bohemia has been denied. There is no indication that Bohemia has any desire to be part of Camizu, and there is also no indication that Bohemians are Ethnic Camizuans. Saxe-Coburg apologises for any inconvenience this may cause.
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Apr 21 2005, 11:52 PM
Saxe-Coburg regrets to inform the people of Camizu that their request for passage into Bohemia has been denied. There is no indication that Bohemia has any desire to be part of Camizu, and there is also no indication that Bohemians are Ethnic Camizuans. Saxe-Coburg apologises for any inconvenience this may cause.

It would seem that the government of Saxe-Coburg has accused Dr. Camizu of lying about the people of Bohemia. We assume that Saxe-Coburg did not intend this slander and will apologize shortly.
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Apr 21 2005, 11:42 PM
NEWS! A RECENT EDITION OF THE ROSENWALD PRESS HAS THIS TO SAY!

Thats an awesome newspaper image!


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Dr. Camizu has no intention of violating the interests of Rosenwald or any other nation. He asks the same. His only desire is to unite the Camizuan nation, which has been seperated by imperialists in days past. The Camizuan people have suffered long and hard. Now one portion of them has their own state, but the other still labors in bondage to foreign oppressors. Why do not the Camizuans of Bohemia have the right to be free?

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This has really spiralled out of control, hasn't it? All I wanted was to give Wadj a hard time! <_<
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Prime Minister Sievers released this statement at a recent Press Conference: "No Comment."
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