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Round 2: Magic vs Celtics (Gm 5); 5/12, 8:00 PM, TD Banknorth Garden
Topic Started: May 12 2009, 10:44 AM (2,399 Views)
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May. 12, 2009 09:54 PM
And f**k Hedo Turkoglu. His s**tty shot selection is inexcusable. And Rashard Lewis, the compulsively passive a**hole who doesn't want the ball when the game is on the line.

And like Vinnie said, I hope I never have to watch Rafer Alston in a Magic uniform again. For a s**tty shooter, he sure takes a lot of shots.

Don't let Gortat leave, he plays with heart and he clearly wants to win - which is more than I can say for a lot of these a**holes.

So far, we've managed to lose TWO (yes, two) games where we were up by at least 14 in the fourth quarter. And we nearly blew a game where we were up by 28. It's pathetic, there's no two ways about it.

Ditch Turkoglu and bring in someone with a pair of balls and we'll try again next year.

The fans deserve better than that.

I agree with all your points 100 percent with you. Get Rafer Alston the hell off my team! I don't want to have to watch that guy again take crappy shots and look foolish trying to finish at the rim.

And this team HAS to bring back Gortat, he can by the bruiser physical type that we need. Get him more minutes next year, go big playing him and Dwight more at times, have him and Battie in there together at times. Work him more into this team.
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Im starting to think we need another Tmac like scorer on this team. I highly doubt Dwight is ever gonna develop a good offensive game. Not enough where we are gonna be able to rely on him. Shard and Hedo are not those type of players imo. Shard would be the closest, but he is not gonna put up numbers like Tmac did while here. A scorer like that and Dwight could just do what he does now. Rebound, dunk and block shots.
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We could have played s**tty basketball for the last 6 minutes and still won the game. What we did was worse than s**tty - I have never seen anything like that in my basketball-watching life. Up 14, all you have to do is score every third or fourth possession and we win easily.
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May. 12, 2009 09:56 PM
This team really needs Jameer back next season!!!!!

jameer alone isnt gonna change the softness on this team. we need a guy w/ some fire in him like a mcdyess. hell even joakim noah would be good. there needs to be some feathers ruffled in that pillow soft locker room
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Vinnie
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May. 12, 2009 09:58 PM
TheFalcon
May. 12, 2009 09:54 PM
And f**k Hedo Turkoglu.  His s**tty shot selection is inexcusable.  And Rashard Lewis, the compulsively passive a**hole who doesn't want the ball when the game is on the line. 

And like Vinnie said, I hope I never have to watch Rafer Alston in a Magic uniform again.  For a s**tty shooter, he sure takes a lot of shots. 

Don't let Gortat leave, he plays with heart and he clearly wants to win - which is more than I can say for a lot of these a**holes. 

So far, we've managed to lose TWO (yes, two) games where we were up by at least 14 in the fourth quarter.  And we nearly blew a game where we were up by 28.  It's pathetic, there's no two ways about it.

Ditch Turkoglu and bring in someone with a pair of balls and we'll try again next year.

The fans deserve better than that.

actually i gotta disagree, turk was good in the 4th qtr and got us the 14 pt lead. rashard should have defnitely seen the ball more in the 4th although he made 2 stupid passes trying to force it to dwight which f**ked us over.

and blame dwight/rashard for their combination of stellar defense on fat boy davis. they make that scrub look like an allstart. especially dwight he got worked w/ hooks in the post for gods sake. rafer was his usual retard self in the 4th.

I like Turk at times, he's one of my favorites on the team. He does take a hell of a lot of bad shots, but sometimes I can live with it. Here is the issue, Shard and Turk play the same position, Shard is a true 3 as is Turk, one has to go and it just so happens that we are locked into Shard and Turk is more then likely going to opt out and you can let him walk and try and then bring in another 4, I'm not sure who is available I'll have to look into that, but I think that is the way th is team needs to go.
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May. 12, 2009 10:00 PM
We could have played s**tty basketball for the last 6 minutes and still won the game.

That's exactly right. We got to the hole on them whenever we wanted to and stopped trying. We were more worried about running the clock down than trying to put points on the board. And because it has happened so many times this playoff season, that falls on the coaching. I blame the players for this loss, but not starting Lee and not playing Lee the minutes he should have killed us too. JJ wasn't bad defensively, but if he's not hitting a shot, he's useless.
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Im outta here. I have a feeling I am gonna see Glenn Davis in my nightmares tonight! :no:
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iceveins333
May. 12, 2009 09:58 PM
TheFalcon
May. 12, 2009 09:54 PM
And f**k Hedo Turkoglu.  His s**tty shot selection is inexcusable.  And Rashard Lewis, the compulsively passive a**hole who doesn't want the ball when the game is on the line. 

And like Vinnie said, I hope I never have to watch Rafer Alston in a Magic uniform again.  For a s**tty shooter, he sure takes a lot of shots. 

Don't let Gortat leave, he plays with heart and he clearly wants to win - which is more than I can say for a lot of these a**holes. 

So far, we've managed to lose TWO (yes, two) games where we were up by at least 14 in the fourth quarter.  And we nearly blew a game where we were up by 28.  It's pathetic, there's no two ways about it.

Ditch Turkoglu and bring in someone with a pair of balls and we'll try again next year.

The fans deserve better than that.

actually i gotta disagree, turk was good in the 4th qtr and got us the 14 pt lead. rashard should have defnitely seen the ball more in the 4th although he made 2 stupid passes trying to force it to dwight which f**ked us over.

and blame dwight/rashard for their combination of stellar defense on fat boy davis. they make that scrub look like an allstart. especially dwight he got worked w/ hooks in the post for gods sake. rafer was his usual retard self in the 4th.

I hear you, but I'm referring more to everyday shot selection. All the off-balance, in traffic, weird jumpers have got to stop. When he plays within himself, he is a great player. But when he puts hits head down and starts running around out-of-control, he does nothing to help this team. He certainly helped get us this lead, but as our best offensive weapon, a big chunk of the blame for the offensive collapse also falls on his shoulders.
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May. 12, 2009 10:00 PM
Im starting to think we need another Tmac like scorer on this team. I highly doubt Dwight is ever gonna develop a good offensive game. Not enough where we are gonna be able to rely on him. Shard and Hedo are not those type of players imo. Shard would be the closest, but he is not gonna put up numbers like Tmac did while here. A scorer like that and Dwight could just do what he does now. Rebound, dunk and block shots.

JOsh Smith and Joe Johnson aren't getting along in Atlanta, maybe we can swing a deal for Joe Johnson. :/

I don't know, I actually have faith that Lee is going to be a solid scorer at the 2 as he gets some time under his belt, he can stroke the three pretty well and can take people off the dribble. We know he's going to defend. Jameer can be a go to scorer from the point and can be that guy to get you big shots when you need. I think the key is letting Turk leave; move Shard back to his natural 3 and get me a big physical 4 and hold onto Gortat as well!
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I'll miss Turk as much as the next man, and I certainly trust him with a big shot more then the passive one, Rashard Lewis. However, we can't unload Rashard's contract, we are stuck with him and that contract. Rashard is a very good player don't get me wrong, but he lacks that "it" factor, that guy who is fearless and what's the ball in a big spot, Turk does have that but there are a lot of times as well will Turk just plays so out of control and just fires up brutally bad shots.
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sorry to all you guys that disagree but I can name 5-7 points in the last game directly related to bad calls. and falcon, man I looked at that thing from all the angles, had it tivoed and , dude the net swished but there was NO change of trajectory. and if i cant see it on slow mo how the hell can they see it enough to REVERSE it? like in the NFL it has to be pretty damn solid to reverse it.
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dxwwf3
May. 12, 2009 10:03 PM
That's exactly right.  We got to the hole on them whenever we wanted to and stopped trying.  We were more worried about running the clock down than trying to put points on the board.  And because it has happened so many times this playoff season, that falls on the coaching.  I blame the players for this loss, but not starting Lee and not playing Lee the minutes he should have killed us too.  JJ wasn't bad defensively, but if he's not hitting a shot, he's useless.

Alston is a backup for this team, not a starter. I'm tired of Stan having Alston taking over this game when he's not that good all series long. I rather have A.J. take over on Game 6 and Game 7 if that's the case. Otherwise, another departure from the second round again!
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May. 12, 2009 10:07 PM
sorry to all you guys that disagree but I can name 5-7 points in the last game directly related to bad calls. and falcon, man I looked at that thing from all the angles, had it tivoed and , dude the net swished but there was NO change of trajectory. and if i cant see it on slow mo how the hell can they see it enough to REVERSE it? like in the NFL it has to be pretty damn solid to reverse it.

I thought it just got net, on one replay I thought it looked like the ball went straight down like it may have barely touched the rim, but to me I thought all net on most of the angles I saw. I think in a spot like that you gotta stick with the call on the floor.
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and i dont get why dwight always gets pushed around by fatasses like davis and perkins. i know they are fat f**ks and have thick lower bodies but is dwight just not working on his lower body strength at all? you would think by now he would realize he needs to squat his a** off so he doesnt get pushed off the block
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Here is something to chew on, is it a coincidence that we played our best and most crisp game with Skip suspended? Hmmm......give AJ the bulk of the time in Game 6. I'm fine with starting Skip, but down the stretch I want AJ out there.
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