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Arroyo MVP; CC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME
Topic Started: Aug 13 2007, 07:47 AM (2,429 Views)
Panam
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http://www.fibaamericas.com/noticiasread4....GA&t=LLHSJNBYIV For those of you who want to download Carlos to another team .......YOU ARE WRONG!!!!!




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PUR - Puerto Rico wins Gold in the CBC Championship

domingo, 12 de agosto 2007



CAGUAS (CBC Championship) - Puerto Rico won Gold in the 2007 CBC Championship by beating the Dominican Republic 81 to 72 in the final of the tournament played in Caguas, Puerto Rico.

The hosts started the game with a 7-0 run after a three pointer by Carlos Arroyo.

But the Dominican Republic won the first quarter 24-22 thanks to an aggresive attack led by Franklyn Western and Jack Michael Martinez.

The Dominicans had a 39-38 halftime lead but the hosts opened the score again in the second half to take an 46-42 lead and end up 64-61 with ten minutes left.

Arroyo continued to hit from outside to obtain a 79-69 lead and never look back. Arroyo ended with 20 points and 6 assists to be named the MVP of the tournament.

Franklyn Western led the Dominican Republic with 26 points.

Final classification

1 - Puerto Rico
2 - Dominican Republic
3 - Cuba
4 - Bahamas
5 - Antigua & Barbuda
6 - Barbados
7 - British Virgin Islands
8 - Guyana
9 - Trinidad & Tobago














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Though the CBC isn't the biggest competition you can find, we can see that if put in the right system and with the right coach, Carlos Arroyo can flourish.
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Panam
Aug. 13 2007 07:47 AM
For those of you who want to download Carlos to another team .......YOU ARE WRONG!!!!!





first of all...you can't tell me my opinion is wrong...its an opinion
and second off..no i'm not wrong. arroyo is still an idiot ball hog, ball hacker upper (theres a good word...hacker upper) piece of crap. :] have a good day
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Aug. 13 2007 01:59 PM
Panam
Aug. 13 2007 07:47 AM
For those of you who want to download Carlos to another team .......YOU ARE WRONG!!!!!                                                                                     
 
 



first of all...you can't tell me my opinion is wrong...its an opinion
and second off..no i'm not wrong. arroyo is still an idiot ball hog, ball hacker upper (theres a good word...hacker upper) piece of crap. :] have a good day

Nice language!!!!!!Sorry your biased opinion on Carlos doesn"t count..........hopefully you will change your mind........(dobt it) however Coach SG has a better opinion of Carlos!!!!!
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Him being a ball hog will lessen the hate against him if he can actually make most of the shots he chucks. :lol:

Hope he uses this for confidence and helps to lead the bench this season.
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Arroyo Belongs in the NBDL.

This guy is a mad chucker. Which isn't a good things at all because he can't even shoot well. Also, he dosen't even pass the ball. Which is the only thing he could do well, and he dosen't want to do that.

When Brian Hill dosen't want to you to play. That basically means you suck.

He has bounced around to 4 teams, and he has sucked on all 4 of them at one point. If he can't play with the Magic, I don't see which other team would take this guy in.

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Arroyo isn't as bad as some people think he is.
Arroyo isn't as good as some people think he is.
One year running the point under Brian Hill's offense can ruin his reputation amongst haters more than he deserves.
One summer playing against teams that I and my friends would beat while playing blindfolded and handcuffed can rise his reputation amongst his fans more than he deserves.
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zuppafly
Aug. 14 2007 06:28 AM
Arroyo isn't as bad as some people think he is.
Arroyo isn't as good as some people think he is.
One year running the point under Brian Hill's offense can ruin his reputation amongst haters more than he deserves.
One summer playing against teams that I and my friends would beat while playing blindfolded and handcuffed can rise his reputation amongst his fans more than he deserves.

I agree with the first two paragraphs of your statement!!!!!However your last statement is yet to be confirmed......we'll see in the FIBA AMERICAN TOURNAMENT from Aug 22-Sept 2 at Las Vegas Nevada playing against the USA DREAM TEAM and NBA grade competition, how our Orlando Majic PG does!!!!! THEN WE'LL TALK.
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Drafting Marbury + Foyle = Championship. \o/
Yeah you're right, I wasn't talking about the coming events, I was talking about this last one. I followed the progress of the tournament and the boxscores of the games, and damn, there were some pretty bad teams out there. I guess that's not good even to the PR national squad who couldn't even get real opposition to train for the F.A.T. .
I agree that by the end of the month we'll get to see how Arroyo is getting into this next season.
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Arroyo is exactly average. He's the definition of a middle-of-the-road player. He's not garbage, but he's not great.
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Aug. 14 2007 04:56 PM
Arroyo is exactly average. He's the definition of a middle-of-the-road player. He's not garbage, but he's not great.

Like most of our bench players.

I don't understand how our back up pg's avg similar numbers but somehow Arroyo sucks. Arroyo for his entire career has been a pass first PG, he comes into BHill's system and had a mediocore season. Coincidence? Arroyo wasn't getting playing time and took advantage when Hill did put him in the game. I don't believe he used Darko or Arroyo in a way that would benefit the team.

And no DHoward he hasn't "sucked" with every team he's played on, He actually played well in Utah Sloan ,Like BHill, implimented the slowed down half court game that he obviously has had a problem with. Your pissed b/c some puerto rican fan thinks carlos is a great player. (I consider him good not great)

We need to keep consistancy at the PG spot. We need to keep our PG's together, Carlos is still the best "PG" we have on the team and if we trade him, we would be depending on Dooling to run point and thats just scary.
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Aug. 19 2007 04:40 PM
Like most of our bench players.

I don't understand how our back up pg's avg similar numbers but somehow Arroyo sucks. Arroyo for his entire career has been a pass first PG, he comes into BHill's system and had a mediocore season. Coincidence? Arroyo wasn't getting playing time and took advantage when Hill did put him in the game. I don't believe he used Darko or Arroyo in a way that would benefit the team.

And no DHoward he hasn't "sucked" with every team he's played on, He actually played well in Utah Sloan ,Like BHill, implimented the slowed down half court game that he obviously has had a problem with. Your pissed b/c some puerto rican fan thinks carlos is a great player. (I consider him good not great)

We need to keep consistancy at the PG spot. We need to keep our PG's together, Carlos is still the best "PG" we have on the team and if we trade him, we would be depending on Dooling to run point and thats just scary.

Just finished watching the TUTO MARCHAND CUP tournament (went to two games)in PR between Argentina,Brazil,Canada and PR.....Brazil won the Cup and PR came in last!!!!Our Orlano Majic point guard had a decent tournament playing for the PR team......I believe Carlos will be all right when the NBA tournament starts in October..........lets watch him in the FIBA tournament against the big boys and we'll decide what he can contribute to the Majic team.
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Aug. 20 2007 05:48 AM
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Aug. 19 2007 04:40 PM
Like most of our bench players.

I don't understand how our back up pg's avg similar numbers but somehow Arroyo sucks.  Arroyo for his entire career has been a pass first PG, he comes into BHill's system and had a mediocore season. Coincidence? Arroyo wasn't getting playing time and took advantage when Hill did put him in the game. I don't believe he used Darko or Arroyo in a way that would benefit the team.

And no DHoward he hasn't "sucked" with every team he's played on, He actually played well in Utah Sloan ,Like BHill, implimented the slowed down half court game that he obviously has had a problem with. Your pissed b/c some puerto rican fan thinks carlos is a great player. (I consider him good not great)

We need to keep consistancy at the PG spot. We need to keep our PG's together, Carlos is still the best "PG" we have on the team and if we trade him, we would be depending on Dooling to run point and thats just scary.

Just finished watching the TUTO MARCHAND CUP tournament (went to two games)in PR between Argentina,Brazil,Canada and PR.....Brazil won the Cup and PR came in last!!!!Our Orlano Majic point guard had a decent tournament playing for the PR team......I believe Carlos will be all right when the NBA tournament starts in October..........lets watch him in the FIBA tournament against the big boys and we'll decide what he can contribute to the Majic team.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/index?&lpos=...&lid=gn_NBA_NBA TOURNEY TIME :rolleyes: Group A: Argentina short-handed, but heavy favorite
By Carlos Morales
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Updated: August 21, 2007
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Tournament of the Americas: Group A | Group B


The Tournament of the Americas Olympic qualifier begins tomorrow in Las Vegas, where two berths for the 2008 Olympics in China are on the line.

The first round of play will feature the 10 teams divided into two groups. Four teams in each group will advance to the second round after playing round robin in their respective group.

Here's a breakdown of the five teams in Group A:



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Argentina





Scola
The current Olympic champs come into the tournament in an awkward position from a talent standpoint. Four of their regular starters (Manu Ginobili, Andres Nocioni, Fabricio Oberto and Juan "Pepe" Sanchez), and two other top players (Walter Herrmann and Ruben Wolkowyski) won't participate. This puts the pressure on Luis Scola and Pablo Prigioni to perform extremely well.

Nonetheless, the team coached by Sergio Hernandez can count on other lesser-known names who can play competitively at the top level. Paolo Quinteros, Matias Sandes, Federico Kammerichs, Diego Logrippo, Roman Gonzalez and Leo Gutierrez should all shine on a team that knows how to defend and attack, as well as follow instructions and respect a game plan.

Argentina is the heavy favorite to win this group and they should be fighting Brazil and USA for one of the two berths in the 2008 Olympic Games.



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Mexico





RichardsonOnce again, internal problems amongst federation officials and some of its most important players will keep Mexico from taking its best players to the competition. In the beginning, there was talk of the return of NBA player Eduardo Najera, and the debut of Earl Watson. But this didn't materialize because athletes and administrators weren't able to reach an agreement.

However, there certainly seems to be improvement in the coaching department, thanks to the signing of former Arkansas coach Nolan Richardson. He has been able to change the dynamics of a traditionally slow team, which will now play a faster, counter-attacking game. Physical condition will be the key to the success of this scheme.

Mexico will be an interesting team to watch and will give more than one team a run for its money, but the Mexico doesn't seem to have enough firepower to get a ticket to China.




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Panama





Pinnock
Mexico's gain in coach Richardson is Panama's main loss. Richardson coached Panama from 2005-2007 and taught the team to play with great discipline in the Dominican Republic two years ago, helping them qualify for the last World Cup. In this tournament, it will be extremely hard for Panama to make it to the second round.

Panama is another team that will be without key players for the tournament. Jair Peralta, Michael Hicks, Dionisio Gomez, Ruben Garces and Eric Cardenas all came up with different excuses for not playing. So Danilo Pinnock, Antonio Garcia, Jamal Levy and Jaime Lloreda will try to keep Panama's hopes alive.






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Puerto Rico



Center Daniel Santiago quit the team last week -- one week before the tournament -- and left officials, the coaching staff and fans perplexed. His announcement also had a demoralizing effect on his former teammates, as Puerto Rico was unable to win a single game in the Genaro "Tuto" Marchand Cup, which took place in the team's own country. They lost to Canada, Brazil and Argentina.



Barea


Arroyo
Carlos Arroyo, Jose Juan Barea, Filiberto Rivera, Larry Ayuso and Rick Apodaca can all play a very accurate game at top speed. But that sometimes means they tend to abandon their game plans too quickly in favor of looking for one-on-one situations when confronted with good defense.

Another big weakness is their lack of height and size -- only Peter John Ramos has the contexture of a true center. That also means that the team is quite inefficient in the rebounding department.

They should hang with Argentina in this group, but it looks like there is no ticket to Beijing for them in Vegas, and they will probably need to play in the World Pre-Olympic next year.





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Uruguay





Batista
This is a team that has developed dramatically the last few years. Esteban Batista, who plays in the NBA, is Uruguay's "franchise" player, but others such as Nicolas Mazzarino, Martin Osimani and Mauricio Aguiar perform well in top European competition.


Uruguay took home the bronze medal in the Pan American Games in Rio de Janeiro, and the team has beaten almost every professional team on its tour in Mexico.


Talent-wise, they are still one step behind Argentina and Puerto Rico, but the discipline they play with will help them. Uruguay has a good chance of advancing to the second round, finishing third in the group with at least two victories.

Carlos Morales currently is ESPN International's NBA analyst for its Spanish-language broadcasts. He is also the Orlando Magic Spanish-language radio analyst. He has coached for over two decades in Puerto Rico, the Dominican Republic and Venezuela, and coached Puerto Rico's national team at the highest levels of international competition.



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Peurto Rico lost to Canada? What the hell?
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Aug. 21 2007 07:31 PM
Peurto Rico lost to Canada?  What the hell?

YES!!!! and it was Arroyo's fault for not following coach's instruction to foul Canada's player (PR had a foul to give)on an inbound pass with 0.4 sec to go in the game and PR ahead by 3...........instead Arroyo went for a steal ...failed to do do so... and Canada scored a 3pt desperation shot and won in overtime.....
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