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| Black and Blue | Aug 1 2007, 08:53 PM Post #1 |
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Have You Hugged Your Van Gundy Today?
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I was going to post this in another thread, but figured we needed an entire thread for people who don't think the sky is falling simply because we overpaid Rashard Lewis. Prepare for a rant, folks: I think a lot of people everywhere are overreacting and hopping on the hype machines the media is creating. Every year the experts just value teams based on the big names on them and last year's records, while they undervalue talented teams with who have young players and are progressing. We sign Rashard, a fantastic player who numbers-wise is one of the best in the league, but the contract happens to be too high because frankly we have more money than anyone else and don't mind blowing it to ensure we get him. His contract doesn't somehow erase the good player that he is. The media was against the money we paid him because they think he doesn't deserve it right now, and this is true. What they are ignoring is that he is a player just entering his prime and coming off of the best year of his career. We still haven't seen his ceiling. People thought we completely overpaid TMac when we got him too because he was an unknown. Also, we get a far better coach, and let a backup PF and a SG that only occasionally played leave...and and all of a sudden we're in danger of making the playoffs in people's minds? How is that so? Darko's upside eclipsed the rather pedestrian play he exhibited much of last year, and Grant Hill's value is being even MORE overblown. He barely played for us, taking off back-to-back game nights, and when he did play...(bracing himself for the backlash)...he wasn't a 'leader' for our team as people are claiming. He was completely absent when our team was splintering apart internally both under the Brian Hill and Steve Francis eras. Enough about the Magic. How about the other teams? -Miami got no one of substance this offseason and are looking worse the older they get. -Washington got no one new this offseason and their big men are looking really bad after starting strong last year. -Cleveland is in serious, serious trouble of losing either Varejao or Gooden and will likely add no one. -New Jersey's hopes rest on Richard Jefferson's balky ankles and Kristic returning from injury. They also lost their insurance policy in Mikki Moore and an underrated Eddie House. My friends that are Nets fans are on the verge of giving up entirely on this current team. I say chin up guys. This team is going to be much improved next year simply because of the strength of the Xs and Os of our new coach alone. The fact that two out of four ESPN analysts for ESPN.com recently said we were a "lock" to make the playoffs (with the others saying it was very likely) speaks to how overblown all of this Rashard contract stuff has become. The silliest part is that we haven't even seen the product on the floor. This team will look VERY different despite the similarity of players, so it's anyone's guess how it will go. I think it will really pay off, and it will be us optomistic Magic fans smiling when the rest of the league, the pessimistic Magic fans, and the short memory-laden members of the media come around. |
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| Ben Q Rock | Aug 1 2007, 08:58 PM Post #2 |
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The Nets can't even count on Eddie House anymore; he signed with the Celtics today. |
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| dxwwf3 | Aug 1 2007, 10:08 PM Post #3 |
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That ESPN article made me laugh and scream at the same time. The Hollinger guy doesn't have a freaking clue. But the main thing that I think the media is forgetting about is that we didn't just pay Rashard Lewis all of that money just to do something. We're hoping he can put up similar numbers to what he did with the Sonics and IF HE CAN, we are as good, if not better, than anyone else in the East. The media is completely writing us off because of the contract, but they are forgetting that the games are played on the court and not on the GM's front desk. Burns over at SI has us in the 9 seed this year for the East as well. I really hope SVG can use these idiots for motivation. |
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| Black and Blue | Aug 2 2007, 12:11 AM Post #4 |
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Amen Dx. That SI article is moronic because all he did was pop the Celtics into the records teams had last year, bumping us to 9th. It's like he took nothing else this offseason into account except the Celtics. Wow...pretty tough work. |
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| TheFalcon | Aug 2 2007, 12:21 AM Post #5 |
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Air Gortat
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"Copy.... Paste.... Add Celtics... Ok, I'm going on break." |
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| Ben Q Rock | Aug 2 2007, 12:44 AM Post #6 |
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Reminds me of a Mitch Hedberg routine. “I wanna get a job as someone who names kitchen appliances. Toaster, refrigerator, blender … all you do is say what the s*** does, and add ‘-er’. I wanna work for the Kitchen Appliance-Naming Institute. ‘Hey, what does that do?’ ‘It keeps s*** fresh.’ ‘Well, that’s a fresher." Pause for effect "'I’m going on break.'”
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| gomagic33 | Aug 2 2007, 02:16 AM Post #7 |
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Link Thank you very much Mr. Stein. I can't wait for the season to begin and disprove all this so called "experts"
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| Black and Blue | Aug 2 2007, 10:18 AM Post #8 |
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Have You Hugged Your Van Gundy Today?
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This made me laugh out loud. Not sure if you made that up or got it from somewhere but if that is from your own mind you might have a career in stand up my friend.
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| TheFalcon | Aug 2 2007, 12:13 PM Post #9 |
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Air Gortat
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It's from Mitch Hedberg, who's a great comedian - if you're ever interested. |
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| Black and Blue | Aug 2 2007, 12:31 PM Post #10 |
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Have You Hugged Your Van Gundy Today?
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You know, if I actually took the time to read that in the post I would have saved myself some time! ![]() Been a long week. I've been apartment hunting and I think it's robbed me of by brain cells! |
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| Jax Magic | Aug 5 2007, 04:27 AM Post #11 |
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Yeah, Mitch Hedberg is an great comedian. His delivery and timing is amazing. |
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| Odin | Aug 6 2007, 08:53 AM Post #12 |
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Was a good comedian, passed away a couple of years ago, drug use, he was bad into it. I used to be a stand up and had some friends who knew him |
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| TheFalcon | Aug 6 2007, 10:40 AM Post #13 |
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Air Gortat
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I met him about 5 years ago at SideSplitters in Tampa... He was a great guy. He was really friendly off the stage but his whole demeanor screamed drug addict. He was very "lofty", but I'm still glad I had the chance to meet him before he passed. |
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| Odin | Aug 6 2007, 12:47 PM Post #14 |
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Yeah thats what all my friends who knew him said. It was a loss cause he was funny as hell. I actually played sidesplitters in tampa, a guy named Bobby Jewel used to run it. |
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| Black and Blue | Aug 6 2007, 01:44 PM Post #15 |
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Have You Hugged Your Van Gundy Today?
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Switching gears on the chin up thread: What do you think the Magic's chances are of performing another trade or signing a quality free agent this summer to address the holes on the team? PJ Brown and Chris Webber look to be out of our price range, so who would you be happy with the Magic obtaining? |
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