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| MAGICMANEVAN | Jul 12 2007, 10:13 AM Post #1 |
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| zuppafly | Jul 12 2007, 10:39 AM Post #2 |
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Drafting Marbury + Foyle = Championship. \o/
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That's just trying to sugar cream things right now. Playing Rashard as a PF is a huge mistake. I'd rather play Ariza there who is a much better hustler than him. (and really, I never understood people saying Ariza is a SF/SG. He has nothing to do with SGs... he has yet to make his 5th 3 pointer in his entire career. He's much more a 3/4 than a 2/3. |
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| The Archduke | Jul 12 2007, 11:08 AM Post #3 |
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Ariza at the 4? :haha: Wow. Maybe we can slide Bogans in at the 5 just for depth. Let's be reasonable. I'd rather not see Shard play the 4, but we know there will be situations where he will cover that position. Hedo as well. Make no mistake, though...both should be 3s. You can call SVG's comments sugar creaming...but yours are borderline crack-smoking.
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| zuppafly | Jul 12 2007, 11:54 AM Post #4 |
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lol, I agree that both of them are SF. But due to Ariza's lenght (he is a 6'10ft) and hustle on the boards I do see him more resembled to a 4 than a 2. Besides that, having a 2 that simply can't shoot a three pointer isn't exactly my dream. Between Rashard and Ariza, call me crack-smoking delusional lol, but I do think Ariza is a better option, specially with a guy like Rashard playing the 3. And hey, if Diaw could play the 5 in Phoenix, Ariza can be a superstar at the 4
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| ec23456 | Jul 12 2007, 12:53 PM Post #5 |
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I do not like this at all.This Van Gundys first mistake & the 2007-08 & the 2007-08 season hasn't even started yet! I believe they should be swiched because Lewis is a more accutte shooter & Turk is so so at times. ec23456 |
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| The Archduke | Jul 12 2007, 01:06 PM Post #6 |
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I guess the Diaw comparisons DO hold some water....but then I thought Ariza was smaller than that. Diaw is listed at 6-8, 230....Ariza at 6-8, 200. So MAYBE.... Perhaps you oughta pass the pipe this way.The fact remains that we don't know who is going to go where. I mean, you make a great case in looking at a team like the Suns. The problem is, while we are potentially an offensive powerhouse (Shard, Dwight, Jameer, JJ, Hedo can ALL blow up offensively from time to time) we're not as polished as Phoenix. And their defense was pretty suspect as well. |
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| The Archduke | Jul 12 2007, 01:07 PM Post #7 |
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Dude, no offense, but my grandmother complains less than you, and trust me, she's pretty good at the griping. It's funny that you talk about Turk being so-so when there were so many saying that Shard wasn't worth signing since "he's pretty much already here in Turk". |
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| zuppafly | Jul 12 2007, 07:29 PM Post #8 |
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Wow, Ariza is only 6-8? I really need to lay down the pipe :S I could swear he was taller than that... God damn, that kid's jumps made me think he was taller. There goes my theory down the toilet.Anyway, I guess my main point is that, just like you said, having a lineup of Dwight, Shard, Hedo, JJ and Nelson means a pretty suspect defense (to say the least). So I think Ariza must get in there somehow for his hustle. And I don't like the ideia of having him at the 2 (he can't hit a three to save his life). Since Shard can play the 4 (although I also hate that idea) I guess I'd live better with a lineup of Dwight Shard Ariza JJ or Dooling Nelson Hedo being the 6th man. |
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| Ben Q Rock | Jul 12 2007, 07:37 PM Post #9 |
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As one of the guys at Orlando Magic Blog pointed out in a comments section, the Heat did fairly well running SVG's offense with a slashing shooting guard who couldn't hit threes to save his life; that guard was Dwyane Wade. IN NO WAY AM I COMPARING TREVOR ARIZA TO DWYANE WADE. All I'm saying is the SVG offense doesn't require great three-point shooting to be successful. |
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| zuppafly | Jul 12 2007, 07:41 PM Post #10 |
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Drafting Marbury + Foyle = Championship. \o/
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Good point. And as soon as I finished my post I started thinking that "well, it's van Gundy rotations we're talking about. He made some really weird ones in Miami and they worked out pretty well." I trust the man, so this is just a fan opinion. I guess we'll only find out if Shard can really play the 4 or Ariza can play the 2 in a few months. |
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| Ben Q Rock | Jul 12 2007, 08:00 PM Post #11 |
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Is it November yet? :S
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| MAGICMANEVAN | Jul 12 2007, 08:06 PM Post #12 |
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I think your forgetting that the 4 and 5 are basically the same positions in today's NBA and the same goes with the 2 and 3. You dont have to be a good 3pt shooter to be a good wing player. Shooting threes doesnt make you a SG, just ask D. Wade. |
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| The Archduke | Jul 12 2007, 09:45 PM Post #13 |
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This team might be best suited with Dooling starting at the 2. Right now we really don't know who's lining up where. It's a lot of speculation. Right now, I feel pretty comfortable with the fact that we have a number of wing players that are fairly versatile. I mean, think about it. Shard - can play 2,3, or 4 Hedo - see Shard Ariza - 2 or 3 Dooling - 1 or 2 You could even argue, though I would disagree, that Bogans could fill in at the 3 in the right situation. I personally would rather not see Shard or Hedo play the 4...but we may see plenty of just that. |
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| [A]pache | Jul 13 2007, 09:05 AM Post #14 |
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I think Dooling will step up this season, and will get the starting role at 2. He's way better defender than Redick, and with some more minutes he'll rich 10 ppg easily! ... and I'm praying to Fran come this year! He'll make us forget about Darko
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| The Archduke | Jul 13 2007, 10:17 AM Post #15 |
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Well, I personally would rather see Dooling come off of the bench, if only so we could use him to spell either the SG or the PG. There are still some potential deals to be made, and my guess is that with SVG's ties to Dooling, Arroyo would probably go first. I think I would rather see this starting lineup, personally Howard - duh Battie - experience and toughness, he's good at getting teammates open with solid off-the-ball play Shard - see Howard Ariza - I think this is the year people outside of Orlando start noticing him as a Bruce Bowen type defender. Jameer - he'll improve this season. We'll still have a good size advantage across the board except maybe at the 1. If Jameer struggles on defense against a bigger 1, then we can bring Dooling off the bench to spell him. I personally think it will be Ariza/JJ switching time at the 2. And forget about Fran. We'll be Marcin "to the beat of a different drum" when Gortat comes in!!! :whatever: |
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