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Magic @ Suns Thread; 1/13, 9 PM, US Airways Center
Topic Started: Jan 13 2007, 10:55 AM (1,251 Views)
Panam
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Jan. 14 2007 11:21 AM
I'll bash Arroyo all i want thanks. You can talk about being more knowledgable instead of bias so maybe you should stop ridin Arroyos d**k?

I dont hate Arroyo, when he plays well i will gladly give him credit but he isn't playing well..what do you want me to do? Kiss his a** and say he's playing fantastic?

Thank you!!!!!Your language shows were you are coming from.......I could care less if you keep bashing Chuck unjustly.....I wrote down three names , and pasted them next to my computer and from now on.....I'll simply roll down your posts.By the way....I checked the Dic 11 ,Phx game mentioned by Zuppafly and Dienner's play againt Nash was BS.....Dienner played 17.54 min...most with Arroyo at point and the last 10.25 in the 4th Qt when the score was already decided (99-87).....by the way...the moderator of the web site should look into some of the language used here.
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iceveins333
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yeah arroyo was the s**t last year, i dont know what the hell happened to him this year though
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zuppafly
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Drafting Marbury + Foyle = Championship. \o/
Panam
Jan. 14 2007 04:45 PM
Magic.Man
Jan. 14 2007 11:21 AM
I'll bash Arroyo all i want thanks. You can talk about being more knowledgable instead of bias so maybe you should stop ridin Arroyos d**k?

I dont hate Arroyo, when he plays well i will gladly give him credit but he isn't playing well..what do you want me to do? Kiss his a** and say he's playing fantastic?

Thank you!!!!!Your language shows were you are coming from.......I could care less if you keep bashing Chuck unjustly.....I wrote down three names , and pasted them next to my computer and from now on.....I'll simply roll down your posts.By the way....I checked the Dic 11 ,Phx game mentioned by Zuppafly and Dienner's play againt Nash was BS.....Dienner played 17.54 min...most with Arroyo at point and the last 10.25 in the 4th Qt when the score was already decided (99-87).....by the way...the moderator of the web site should look into some of the language used here.

lol, you have no clue about what you're talking about, do you?
You checked the game (boxscore) against Phoenix? Oh, nice... how about knowing what happened in the game? How about reading the game thread? (I could say: how about watching the games but I assume you didn't had the chance to do it back then)
Diener was our only PG in that game that could slow down Nash. And he also had a good offensive game (not stellar, but good). Arroyo in that game? Well, go read the game thread and see for yourself what we all wrote back then about his game.

You have no clue about what you're talking.
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Panam
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iceveins333
Jan. 14 2007 11:47 AM
yeah arroyo was the s**t last year, i dont know what the hell happened to him this year though

This year Orlando is 22-16.....ist in the Southeast and 3rd in the Atlantic with Nelson and Arroyo at the POINT!!!!What's wrong with that!!!!
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Panam
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Jan. 14 2007 11:55 AM
Panam
Jan. 14 2007 04:45 PM
Magic.Man
Jan. 14 2007 11:21 AM
I'll bash Arroyo all i want thanks. You can talk about being more knowledgable instead of bias so maybe you should stop ridin Arroyos d**k?

I dont hate Arroyo, when he plays well i will gladly give him credit but he isn't playing well..what do you want me to do? Kiss his a** and say he's playing fantastic?

Thank you!!!!!Your language shows were you are coming from.......I could care less if you keep bashing Chuck unjustly.....I wrote down three names , and pasted them next to my computer and from now on.....I'll simply roll down your posts.By the way....I checked the Dic 11 ,Phx game mentioned by Zuppafly and Dienner's play againt Nash was BS.....Dienner played 17.54 min...most with Arroyo at point and the last 10.25 in the 4th Qt when the score was already decided (99-87).....by the way...the moderator of the web site should look into some of the language used here.

lol, you have no clue about what you're talking about, do you?
You checked the game (boxscore) against Phoenix? Oh, nice... how about knowing what happened in the game? How about reading the game thread? (I could say: how about watching the games but I assume you didn't had the chance to do it back then)
Diener was our only PG in that game that could slow down Nash. And he also had a good offensive game (not stellar, but good). Arroyo in that game? Well, go read the game thread and see for yourself what we all wrote back then about his game.

You have no clue about what you're talking.

My last reference to your posts!I DID go back and checked the play by play of Dienner,Arroyo,and Nash.My numbers are correct.....I haven't missed one single game the Magic have played this year....(Paid$200.00 for The NBA League Pass) No question you are Biased!
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zuppafly
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Panam
Jan. 14 2007 04:59 PM
This year Orlando is 22-16.....ist in the Southeast and 3rd in the Atlantic with Nelson and Arroyo at the POINT!!!!What's wrong with that!!!!

Garrity is also a player of this squad.
Does that mean that we shouldn't say he sucks?
You logic has absolutely no logic.

Arroyo's game this year is hurting the team. Period. If you can't see it you're either a fanboy who doesn't care for the team or simply blind.
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Panam
Jan. 14 2007 05:06 PM
zuppafly
Jan. 14 2007 11:55 AM
Panam
Jan. 14 2007 04:45 PM
Magic.Man
Jan. 14 2007 11:21 AM
I'll bash Arroyo all i want thanks. You can talk about being more knowledgable instead of bias so maybe you should stop ridin Arroyos d**k?

I dont hate Arroyo, when he plays well i will gladly give him credit but he isn't playing well..what do you want me to do? Kiss his a** and say he's playing fantastic?

Thank you!!!!!Your language shows were you are coming from.......I could care less if you keep bashing Chuck unjustly.....I wrote down three names , and pasted them next to my computer and from now on.....I'll simply roll down your posts.By the way....I checked the Dic 11 ,Phx game mentioned by Zuppafly and Dienner's play againt Nash was BS.....Dienner played 17.54 min...most with Arroyo at point and the last 10.25 in the 4th Qt when the score was already decided (99-87).....by the way...the moderator of the web site should look into some of the language used here.

lol, you have no clue about what you're talking about, do you?
You checked the game (boxscore) against Phoenix? Oh, nice... how about knowing what happened in the game? How about reading the game thread? (I could say: how about watching the games but I assume you didn't had the chance to do it back then)
Diener was our only PG in that game that could slow down Nash. And he also had a good offensive game (not stellar, but good). Arroyo in that game? Well, go read the game thread and see for yourself what we all wrote back then about his game.

You have no clue about what you're talking.

My last reference to your posts!I DID go back and checked the play by play of Dienner,Arroyo,and Nash.My numbers are correct.....I haven't missed one single game the Magic have played this year....(Paid$200.00 for The NBA League Pass) No question you are Biased!

LOL
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Panam
Jan. 14 2007 12:59 PM
This year Orlando is 22-16.....ist in the Southeast and 3rd in the Atlantic with Nelson and Arroyo at the POINT!!!!What's wrong with that!!!!

Had Chuck not held onto the ball so many times, taken horrific shots, missed wide open shots, committed fewer turnovers, we would be 10 games over .500.
Instead, he's played a huge role in us losing 2 straight games (granted the refs helped, but obviously we have to win from here on out with games being 8 on 5).

Diener played Nash beautifully in O-Town.
There's a reason why B-Hill suited Diener up last night and had JJ inactive, he's losing faith in Chuck, and it's about time. Chuck was wonderful last season, but the s**t he's pulling off now would get his throat slashed anywhere else.
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Even Arroyo had a great start this year. However, at some point during this season, something happened and he just hasn't been the same. He's the #3 PG on this team right now, no matter if Coach Hill admits it or not. I was down on Travis this season, but when he actually got on the court, he did very well. And that was with the 1st and 2nd team guys playing against the 1st and 2nd team guys. He should be getting Arroyo's minutes.
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My only problem with the team right now, is that we waste too much of the shot clock. This happens mostly with Arroyo in the game, but sometimes when he isn't in either. We will look to drop it into the post for 10 seconds out of the 24 second clock. That's way too long. We also walk the ball up the court and sometimes BARELY get over without being called for 8 seconds. The part that kills me is when some of our players just stand at half court and just dribble standing in place. It looks like we are playing for the last shot or something, but it's in the middle of the 2nd quarter!! I can count atleast 10 possessions last game where we forced up a shot because the shot clock was running out. I don't know when we will learn.
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Damn i hate playing the Suns... We just CANT keep up with thier pace...


Oh and guys, argue about Arroyo all you want... lets just keep it civil. And lets not attack other members. Thanks! ;)
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zuppafly
Jan. 14 2007 11:34 AM
Panam
Jan. 14 2007 03:32 PM
zuppafly
Jan. 14 2007 09:59 AM
Panam
Jan. 14 2007 01:43 PM
dxwwf3
Jan. 13 2007 11:25 PM
When we shoot the 3 well, we're in the game against anyone we play.  Unfortunately they shot it just as well and went on some big runs that really won it for them.

Arroyo has to go to 3rd team PG.  He can't hit a shot and while he did have 4 assists, Diener has really impressed me when he got to play some a few weeks ago.  Hill needs to make a change there.

You and Magic Man have to stop your Arroyo BASHING!!!!!You guys make me sick!Arroyo played from 3.35 min at the end of the Ist Qt and the hole 2nd quarter tothe end , and Orlando was outscored only nine pts during that time.THAT's PRETTY GOOD!!!!!Had Dienner played those minutes Nash and Co would have not only scored 49 pts they would have blown the game wide open beyond reach!!!!Also is it Arroyo's fault Dwight , Turkoglu and Dooling did not score at all during the last 2.15 min of the 4yh quarter????? Turk and Dwight missed two layups each and Dooling a jump shoot.Orlando stayed at 101 pts from 2.15 min to the end of the fourth.....IS THAT ARROYO'S FAULT?????? Guys!!!....lets be more objective and knowledgable about the game of basketball and not so biased.

Quit the Arroyo love. I don't hate anyone on this team, but everytime Arroyo gets on the court our ball movement stops. He plays iso 99% of the time, makes terrible passes, dribbles like Francis did.
It's his fault that our offense gets stagnant when he gets the ball.

Don't you find it amazing that when Jameer or Diener play our offense is just more fluid, our guys get a lot more open looks?
You missed the point that Arroyo kept our team trailing by 8/9 whenever he was playing. He had absolutely nothing to do with our comeback (75% Jameer 25% Darko) yesterday.
You mention Diener:

This just shows how much of the Magic you know. Did you watch the game in Orlando when Diener was the only guy able to slow Nash?

I don't hate our players, I hate fanboys. And Arroyo gets so many that I'll be as happy when we trade him as I was when we traded Francis. Heck, Arroyo IS a poor man Francis.

Magic are 22-16 leading the Southeast and 3rd in the East......with Nelson and Arroyo at the PG position.Anybody but you (including Adamos the Greek) think the Magic would be having the same stats with Nelson and Dammier at the Point Guard position?????

I'm pretty sure we wouldn't be worse.

Q:Name one game this season that Arroyo did well/carried the team.

A:0




Q:Name me one game Arroyo costed us several possessions with his famous "I'll dribble, look at the basket, dribble again and then shoot a contested fadaway or maybe I'll just shoot the ball in a constested jumper with 21 seconds on the clock just like I did yesterday against the Suns".

A:Do you want the list?

I think you must have forgotten early in the season when Arroyo put up a few 20+ point games and carried our offense when Jameer was struggling. :huh:
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zuppafly
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Yeah, I sohould have place there a "2" instead of a "0".
He did well against Atlanta and Washington in our 2nd and 3rd game of the season.
Tht doesn't change a word of what I said earlier ;)
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Magic.Man
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Okay, so i apolgize for my "attack" earlier.

I went to check out some stats from his season with the Pistons to try to justify my frustration with him and there he played less minutes than he even gets here yet managed to contribute very well.

Some random games:
11minutes played, 5asts, 8points, 0TO
17minutes played, 7asts, 10points, 1TO

Granted they were the stats that stuck out cause they looked good, but thats what he can do so why can't he do that now, like we want him to? Who is he trying to impress (if anyone)? Cause i know i'd find those stat lines alot more impressive than some of the ones he's been putting up recently. But i know he's been going through a rough patch recently too..so maybe i am sometimes a little harsh on him. But when we need someone to contribute and he is missing open shots and making some silly TO's, it's really difficult to stay calm with someone.
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Is it just me or is this website running extremely slow??? Its happening both at work and at home so I doubt its just me
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