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Orlando at Cleveland Thread; 12/23, 7:30 pm
Topic Started: Dec 23 2006, 05:54 PM (2,157 Views)
Brutalfacts
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dxwwf3
Dec. 23 2006 09:58 PM
We deserve to lose. This team is a joke.

I don't know why I get my hopes up any more.

I am very out of sorts....

The Magic were toyed with tonight, the Cavs knew they could keep it close and take over at crunch time. Don't say you didn't see it coming....that is the ultimate form of NBA disrespect...

However, the Magic did all they could to help. What the hell was Nelson doing in the game at crunch time? Love him or hate him (and I a really getting annoyed with him) he had nothing tonight. Darko....well.....Larry Brown is being proven right again and again....he has talent, he really seems to lack focus. If we get anyting from him tonight we could steal one.....wasn't to be.

If some basic changes are not made in the rotation, it will be a very ugly rest of December and January.

Props to....

Arroyo, best game in a month.

Ariza, guy has heart.

Outlaw, should have replaced Darko sooner.

Brutal.....Merry Christmas to all
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Magic.Man
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Awful game!
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Magic lose by 3. We got to make some adjustments for the upcoming games or I fear we will go on a losing streak.
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Dec. 23 2006 10:02 PM
BHill lost this game for leaving Jameer in the game. Jameer was awful tonight.

At some point I will be proven right (I think I already have, but some are slow to pick up on the situation).

Brutal
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Magic really didn't really look like they wanted to play tonight. This is a very ugly month. Luckily we were lucky enough to have a great november and early december. hopefully we could bounce back againts the lakers.

Jameer Nelson just came off an injury, and yesterday had a good game. Today not so good. But was moving the ball around. I would have been in favor of putting dooling in the game when he was hot.
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Craig Maloof
Dec. 23 2006 08:53 PM
magiclive
Dec. 23 2006 08:49 PM
problems so far:

-too many offensive boards for the cavs
-not enough off boards for us
-diener is staying in way too long and ariza isnt playing enough. he barely played in the 2nd quarter. i know he had 2 fouls, but he shouldve gotten more minutes

No, leaving Ariza on the bench for most of the second quarter is a good thing. First off, Ariza had two fouls. Don't risk that third foul. You'll see smart, intelligent coaches doing things like that so they have the player for the end of the game. If Ariza had come in and gotten that third foul then he'd be really restricted with what he could do the rest of the game. This way, he now has another foul to play with. Plus, Ariza would've had to sit out at least half the quarter anyways as he needed a breather.

Diener had a three pointer. He spreads the floor. Case closed.

Craig

ok. i disagree. case closed.
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McGrady and Howard... What could have been
Also Lebron James couldn't be stopped. He had 18 points in the last quater, and made some big shots. He was playing like Jordan at the end of the game. We are all witnesses :D :lol:
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Few things:

-either Jameer is still hurt

-or didn't care about the game tonight

-he does not play with any sense of urgency

If he is a so called leader, then take it upon yourself and tell BHill that you are not 100% to play becasue of the injury. That to me is selfish, and not a leader. Arroyo needs to develop his confidence in crunch time to keep him in the court. I see more potential in Arroyo than Jameer, however Diener is playing good ball as well. Will see what happens.
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Brutalfacts
Dec. 23 2006 10:07 PM
dxwwf3
Dec. 23 2006 09:58 PM
We deserve to lose.  This team is a joke.

I don't know why I get my hopes up any more.

I am very out of sorts....

The Magic were toyed with tonight, the Cavs knew they could keep it close and take over at crunch time. Don't say you didn't see it coming....that is the ultimate form of NBA disrespect...

However, the Magic did all they could to help. What the hell was Nelson doing in the game at crunch time? Love him or hate him (and I a really getting annoyed with him) he had nothing tonight. Darko....well.....Larry Brown is being proven right again and again....he has talent, he really seems to lack focus. If we get anyting from him tonight we could steal one.....wasn't to be.

If some basic changes are not made in the rotation, it will be a very ugly rest of December and January.

Props to....

Arroyo, best game in a month.

Ariza, guy has heart.

Outlaw, should have replaced Darko sooner.

Brutal.....Merry Christmas to all

i have to agree. jameer should not have been in the game at the end.
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Brutalfacts
Dec. 23 2006 10:10 PM
At some point I will be proven right (I think I already have, but some are slow to pick up on the situation).

Brutal

right about jameer? how so? i dont see how a few bad games erases an entire season of good play. you were saying it yourself last year, brutal. you were saying how you were holding off on the jameer bashing. in brutal language, that means he was impressing you. he has a few bad games and now youre right? :lol:
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magiclive
Dec. 23 2006 10:16 PM
Brutalfacts
Dec. 23 2006 10:07 PM
dxwwf3
Dec. 23 2006 09:58 PM
We deserve to lose.  This team is a joke.

I don't know why I get my hopes up any more.

I am very out of sorts....

The Magic were toyed with tonight, the Cavs knew they could keep it close and take over at crunch time. Don't say you didn't see it coming....that is the ultimate form of NBA disrespect...

However, the Magic did all they could to help. What the hell was Nelson doing in the game at crunch time? Love him or hate him (and I a really getting annoyed with him) he had nothing tonight. Darko....well.....Larry Brown is being proven right again and again....he has talent, he really seems to lack focus. If we get anyting from him tonight we could steal one.....wasn't to be.

If some basic changes are not made in the rotation, it will be a very ugly rest of December and January.

Props to....

Arroyo, best game in a month.

Ariza, guy has heart.

Outlaw, should have replaced Darko sooner.

Brutal.....Merry Christmas to all

i have to agree. jameer should not have been in the game at the end.

Agreed he looked terrible out there. <_<
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magiclive
Dec. 23 2006 10:20 PM
Brutalfacts
Dec. 23 2006 10:10 PM
At some point I will be proven right (I think I already have, but some are slow to pick up on the situation).

Brutal

right about jameer? how so? i dont see how a few bad games erases an entire season of good play. you were saying it yourself last year, brutal. you were saying how you were holding off on the jameer bashing. in brutal language, that means he was impressing you. he has a few bad games and now youre right? :lol:

It's not so much his plays, but also his attitude in the court. His cockyness, and selfisness for not taking it upon himself to tell Bhill that he was not 100% tonight. I even saw him laughing at times before the end of the game, jus like he didn't care.
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Keeping it real
Dec. 23 2006 10:16 PM
Few things:

-either Jameer is still hurt

-or didn't care about the game tonight

-he does not play with any sense of urgency

If he is a so called leader, then take it upon yourself and tell BHill that you are not 100% to play becasue of the injury. That to me is selfish, and not a leader. Arroyo needs to develop his confidence in crunch time to keep him in the court. I see more potential in Arroyo than Jameer, however Diener is playing good ball as well. Will see what happens.

Wait a minute sir.... He wasn't being selfish, he wanted to take the shots for the Magic to get back into the game. He was the one taking the shots. Leaders lead their team to victory, and that's what Jameer has been doing for the past years. I saw Jameer trying to do that in the end with those shots he took. I didn't see anyone else doing that. That isn't being selfish, that's just him leading his team. And this is the few times I seen him fail to be clutch in the end.

I like Arroyo. But Arroyo is no scorer Jameer is. He is an average scorer at best.
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Keeping it real
Dec. 23 2006 10:24 PM
magiclive
Dec. 23 2006 10:20 PM
Brutalfacts
Dec. 23 2006 10:10 PM
At some point I will be proven right (I think I already have, but some are slow to pick up on the situation).

Brutal

right about jameer? how so? i dont see how a few bad games erases an entire season of good play. you were saying it yourself last year, brutal. you were saying how you were holding off on the jameer bashing. in brutal language, that means he was impressing you. he has a few bad games and now youre right? :lol:

It's not so much his plays, but also his attitude in the court. His cockyness, and selfisness for not taking it upon himself to tell Bhill that he was not 100% tonight. I even saw him laughing at times before the end of the game, jus like he didn't care.

i think his attitude is the last thing to question. he is a competitor and wants to win all the time. we see dwight smiling all the time and i dont see any of you guys complaining about that. every player wants to stay in the game. very very very few players are actually going to say to the coach "i suck tonight. take me out." its up to the coach to recognize who is playing well and who isnt and make the substitutions based on that. im not saying its not jameers fault for sucking tonight. he shouldnt have been taking those shots. but we shouldve had dooling or arroyo in at the end instead of him. tonight was not his night for shooting.
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McGrady and Howard... What could have been
magiclive
Dec. 23 2006 10:37 PM
Keeping it real
Dec. 23 2006 10:24 PM
magiclive
Dec. 23 2006 10:20 PM
Brutalfacts
Dec. 23 2006 10:10 PM
At some point I will be proven right (I think I already have, but some are slow to pick up on the situation).

Brutal

right about jameer? how so? i dont see how a few bad games erases an entire season of good play. you were saying it yourself last year, brutal. you were saying how you were holding off on the jameer bashing. in brutal language, that means he was impressing you. he has a few bad games and now youre right? :lol:

It's not so much his plays, but also his attitude in the court. His cockyness, and selfisness for not taking it upon himself to tell Bhill that he was not 100% tonight. I even saw him laughing at times before the end of the game, jus like he didn't care.

i think his attitude is the last thing to question. he is a competitor and wants to win all the time. we see dwight smiling all the time and i dont see any of you guys complaining about that. every player wants to stay in the game. very very very few players are actually going to say to the coach "i suck tonight. take me out." its up to the coach to recognize who is playing well and who isnt and make the substitutions based on that. im not saying its not jameers fault for sucking tonight. he shouldnt have been taking those shots. but we shouldve had dooling or arroyo in at the end instead of him. tonight was not his night for shooting.

True.. And also, he is are best clutch players.


Keeping it real. How come every single time Jameer Nelson comes up big. How come your never here?
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