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| Are the Magic the Biggest Joke in the NBA; Everyone around us thinks so | |
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| Magic333 | Aug 3 2005, 12:21 PM Post #31 |
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McGrady and Howard... What could have been
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Well I am not overreacting..... Look around us.... Other Teams and Broadcaster and telling us we are a joke....... I was watching an interview with Tracy McGrady like 2 sundays ago on ..... And they asked him if are the Magic The Biggest Joke in the league.... He even had the courage to say yea.... He said they got rid of Ben Wallace, Got rid of Mike Miller, Got rid of Darrell Armstrong, and Bo Outlaw and Tracy McGrady, he even said Chauncy Billups.....He even said SHAQ, If you look Now... All those Players had a part In the Orlando Magic team... And Now 3 of them have won a Championship, 1 has won 3 the others have won 1, in a Combined Numbers, 4 Championships have come from the Magic in the last 6 years, and all 3 of those players made another Finals apperance after, WHich counts for 5 Finals Apperances in the last 6, And 1 of those players is on the verge of going to the Championship....... Yeah... I am overreacting.... Thats why they call us a Joke... All those guys we let go... Of course they are going to call us a joke if we do all that.... |
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| dxwwf3 | Aug 3 2005, 12:28 PM Post #32 |
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I don't care what other teams think of us. We are in as good of shape as most teams in the Eastern Conference. |
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| Solid Snake | Aug 3 2005, 12:35 PM Post #33 |
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Oh brother. Yes, Tracy Mcgrady is the judge of who is a joke. We were a joke when he was on the team as well, 21 wins says it all. Tracy Mcgrady shouldnt talk at all. Shaq left, Magic didnt make him leave. When will people get through their heads? Magic wanted him, they offered him a big deal, but he wanted to go to the Lakers. Why people blame the Magic is beyond me. It is OBVIOUS that it is Shaqs fault. I love how people just like to assume they wouldnt have traded Grant HIll for Ben Wallace and Chauncey Billups. Yea, that was a bad move right. PLEASE, everyone would have done that, Grant was a friggin top 3 player in the leage for god sakes. Now all of a sudden because of the situation the magic are a joke. Right, great logic. When we got rid of Mike Miller, and when we first saw who we got play, EVERYONE thought it was a great trade. We were going no where, we had lost 5 straight, and that trade gave us the necessary boost to sneak in the 8th spot, then mr. talk choked in the last stretch of the first round. You are clearly overreacting. We are not the biggest joke in the league BY FAR. And stop using hindsight against us, it could be used against everyone. Look at who Golden state could have possibly had in the draft. Portland could have drafted Jordan. The hornets traded Kobe when they drafted him. The bucks traded Dirks rights. NOw look what happened. God, you can use all this stuff you use against us against EVERY team in the leauge. So in conclusion every team is the biggest joke of the league. |
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| Magic333 | Aug 3 2005, 12:35 PM Post #34 |
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I am Just saying we are just a joke because of the General Management... Plus everyone is in good shape in the Eastern Conference.... I think We have a Beast in the East.... and West has nothing only San Antonio and Houston and Probably Mavericks..... We might end up 6th or 7th place because the Other Teams are so good <_< |
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| Magic333 | Aug 3 2005, 12:44 PM Post #35 |
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WOW!!!! hey are you being sacastic... If isnt even a top 5 player... he is like a top 15 top 10 player...... And Mr.Talk Gave us a 3-1 lead.... NO ONE ELSE HELPED HIM See who was scoring all the Points in game one..... ah... Mr.Talk, Who took all the Shots when nobody wanted in Game 2, Mr.Talk, Uh.... Who Helped Mr.Talk at all in that serious... you cant blame McGrady on that one.. No one else did anything on that serious when he was scoring all those points.. And if your talking about the other serious againts Mavs he did that Same thing... He had 30 points per game 7 points 7 rebounds... He did everthing once again... yao didnt do s**t.... and thats what I am talking about..... If you Paid attension no one helped him in that serious either.... But all I am sayin is that our Managament has made us into a Joke..... Thats what I am saying |
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| Solid Snake | Aug 3 2005, 12:55 PM Post #36 |
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No, Grant Hill when we traded for him was CLEARLY a top 5 player, and in my opinion top 3. Did you watch him at all? Top 15 my butt. I am talking about his prime, not right now. Are you kidding? Drew Gooden flat out played GREAT in the first round that year. He took it at Wallace no problem, and scored and rebounded consistently. Dont give me that ish that T-mac did all the work. Mr. Talk was already talking about the second round before we got that last game, which we obviously never got. Yao didnt do s**t? I beg to differ. I watched that series like a hawk and that guy could not be guarded. I know he had a couple games over 30 points. He was scoring at will. Also, Barry and Wesley were making there shots. Dikembe played well too. Mike James was a problem too. You give Tracy too much credit, he was not the only one playing for the Rockets. All I am saying is that a couple bad seasons is far from being a joke. The cavs before Lebron, the Nuggets before Mello, the hawks, the wizards all wish they only had a couple bad seasons. Lets face it, we are not perennial losers, and that is what a joke is. I think before anyone talks and makes claims we ought to wait and see how we do next season. I can already imagine if we are doing well, people will be claiming that they always thought they would do well and that management was okay. |
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| Magic333 | Aug 3 2005, 01:25 PM Post #37 |
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Okay... Gooden did well I admit that..... But what happened to McGrady when he was locked down by Prince huh.... What happened when he got Shut down?....... Answer that Question? because everyone knew what happened when he got shut down... Game 5: McGrady 19 points... Gooden had 10...... we lost by 30 points that game..... Game Game 6: McGrady Had 37 points... Didnt get shut down and Gooden had 11 points and Giercek had 12 and still lost the Game Game 7: Gooden had 20 points and McGrady had 21 and Giereck had 18 when the game was a Blow-Out in the 2nd Quarter and out of reach in the 3rd game over Game 1: McGrady had 43.... Gooden had 18 Game 2: McGrady had 46... And no one else had More that 10 points lost that game by 12 Game 3: McGrady had 29 Darrell armstrong 20 points... Gooden had 15, Gericick had 10 in the Win Game 4: McGrady 27 points gooden had 20 Girececk had 10, Darrell armstrong had 18....... in the Win So Game 6 was his fault... Game 7 was his fault... game 5 was his fault... and 2 was his fault.... Yea right man.... how bout game 6... haha it was really his fault... he only had 19 points... anyone else no..... Gooden 10 points.. wow, Game 2 had 46 points, Hey man he really choked in that game yea... he really did... Game 7 21 points oh come on McGrady score 47 points to make the Team win..... Hey Game 6... 37 points... Score more points McGrady... you really Need the Points.... Yea where was the Production in those games from McGrady... he lost those games when he scored under at or under 20 points.... game 6 really surprised me.... And we still lost...... Yea Blame McGrady for choking in that Serious.... locked down by prince and no one cant do nothing..... Why wont anyone not blame him for scoring so Much points? He averaged 31.7 points 6.4 rebounds 4.5 assist per game expect him to do more? |
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| TheFalcon | Aug 3 2005, 01:41 PM Post #38 |
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Magic333, what does any of that T-Mac statistics bull have to do with your argument? Is that supposed to prove we are a joke? The point is, the team we had then wasn't getting the job done. So we've tried to improve. We've gotten a much better, more well-rounded team. And who cares what he thinks? How does him saying we are a "joke" validate anything? He's bitter, and thats understandable. As to your previous comments, how can you say Hill was not a top 5 player before we got him???!!! The man has a freakin locker devoted to him at the Hall of Fame, and hes not even retired, and he hasn't even been playing the last four years. You musn't have watched him in Detroit, which is your loss, because it was definetly something to see. As for all the players you've listed that we let go, name another team who hasn't let go of any players the last ten years. All teams let players go, thats part of basketball. You can't hold it against us if players leave via free agency, as did Shaq. And the other players left in order to help make the team player. I know its easy for you to criticize in hindsight... but it just doesn't make for a fair argument. I'm with Snake on this one... |
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| Magic333 | Aug 3 2005, 01:53 PM Post #39 |
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Man I know he didnt say Grant hill Before he came to the Magic... I know he was a top 5 player before he came to the Magic but now he is like a top 10 top 15...... and didnt you read what I said before... I said Management Made us into a Joke....... :wacko: And If McGrady Choked so bad why cant anyone say how we lost... he is a Star player and all but arent Star players supposed to have more help then he had? Duncan has Ginobli, Kobe Had Shaq, Hamilton had Billups, Michael Jordan had Pipen, Magic Johnson had a James Worthy........ You act like he is the Greatest Player in the World and could score 50 points when the team is down By 20..... There was nobody else you can blame but T-Mac..... Because he was the Only good player on the Team that you can blame.... And one player doing all the work.... Yea that will get you some where.... They had No other Player that was Consistant and score 25-30 points with McGrady....... McGrady was always consistant... It just dosent make any sense why people blame him for losing.... Explain Why do you blame him for losing the Serious...? |
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| TheFalcon | Aug 3 2005, 02:04 PM Post #40 |
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Excuse me, but where in my post did I blame T-Mac for anything? I said the TEAM we had then wasn't getting the job done, so we traded away players to help build a better team. I agree, we lost because we didn't have enough talent surrounding T-Mac... but that doesn't mean we are a "joke" because management got rid of him. Management got rid of him so we could have a better all around team. So, I don't blame McGrady for losing the "serious," but I do blame the TEAM. That is why that team has been completely eradicated, it just wasn't working. We have a new team, a much improved team, and I still don't understand why you think management has made us into a joke? We don't seem like a joke to me. We are a ballclub who has made significant improvement from two years ago. Oh, and by the way, he did say BEFORE we traded for Hill... Heres the quote: "No, Grant Hill when we traded for him was CLEARLY a top 5 player, and in my opinion top 3. Did you watch him at all? Top 15 my butt. I am talking about his prime, not right now." He said he WAS a top three player...c'mon bro, give it up. |
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| Magic333 | Aug 3 2005, 02:21 PM Post #41 |
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Well there was Duncan and Shaq...... I dont know about KG back then... So I give him that :yes:... Maybe Allen Iverson..... I really dont know You Falcon are the first one to say that you dont blame McGrady for losing.. But most People Just Blame McGrady for Choking in the Series..... Like the slogan Said ''Its a Total Team Effort'' He did all he could to win.. and the rest of the Team didnt really Show up Except Gooden and Darrell (In game 3 and 4)..... Managements Mistakes: We go after a player we Draft 5 days later...... Dont do homework, Not Going after a Shooting guard when you need one, Call out Players that are not Bothering the Team while your team is losing......Shaq and (Because they didnt show him the Green He wanted)......McGrady (For not trying to Build around him)....... Dwight Howard (For giving him the Ball More Often), Darrell armstrong (For leting go the Heart and Hustle of the Team) Management is Just dumb..... We should have never Picked Fran Vasquez...... We should have gotten a Shooting guard seriously..... Which is very stupid.... And we are to small at the PG and SG posistion..... And Stocking up on Power Foward and Point Guard.... Thats just real Stupid.. We have enough of those Players at that posistion...... The Team is alright.... But Management is just making the Team look stupid.. you get me.... and the Other thing... Is that We are the only team to lose our Pick in a long time..... That just weird
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| doct3r dr3 | Dec 15 2005, 01:27 PM Post #42 |
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Man, I was right on the money with that one. Right now we're 9-11, while the Clippers are 14-8, sitting on top of their division and second in the West. I think I even posted that before they got Sam Cassell.
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| dhoward541524 | Dec 15 2005, 08:05 PM Post #43 |
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i wouldn't say we r a joke, we are more like a "kid" such as i'm kidding. but i'm not kidding, the magic are a 'kid'. you guys got that. lol. |
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| gomagic33 | Dec 15 2005, 08:15 PM Post #44 |
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Mr. Anderson
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Hmmm No.
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| diarrheaguy | Dec 15 2005, 08:20 PM Post #45 |
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I dont think the Magic are the biggest joke in the NBA. There are a lot worse teams out there, but there is something that really pisses me off. Ever notice how the Magic are always the team that is getting scored on in highlight reels. On that new Lebron commercial all of the highlights are against the Magic. All of them. It seems like every time they show a player performing well they chose Magic clips. That really pisses me off. We get no respect from the national media. |
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