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Mind the gap; What's your preferred filler?
Topic Started: Sep 17 2009, 08:25 PM (1,470 Views)
Phreak
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I've been used to Stucco as filler for a while now but I'm beginning to wonder if there's a better alternative.
What's your filler of choice and why?

Input much appreciated.
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peebeep
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That's interesting, stucco is something I normally specify for sticking on walls, not models!

Small gaps, pin holes, small shrinkage - correction fluid.
Big gaps, divots etc - either cyano gel + kicker, or Milliput.
Monster gaps - Milliput.

I've always had the belief that cellulose based tube filler comes out of the arse of Beelzebub, although it's been so long since I bought any things may have changed.

peebeep
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Phreak
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Hi Paul

What colour Milliput would you recommend as there seem to be a few variants?

Ta RR
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desmojen
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I use superglue with or without talc for almost everything. For really small stuff and finishing Mr Surfacr 500 or Tamiya Liquid Surface primer is the bees, and if you insist on using Milliput, I think white is about the friendliest for most things.

Jen.
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peebeep
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Milliput White (super fine) definitely.

A while back I bought a small bottle full of 'Micro Balls' (stop sniggering at the back!). I think these are an expensive and profitable way of selling talcum powder...although they are effective at bulking up a surface and a drop of thin cyano will flash set.

peebeep
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feanor
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Ayup All...

Big stuff... Humbrol Filler. or more often, Plasticard slivers and Contacta / EMA Plastic weld.

Mr Surfacer 500 for moderate stuff, 1000 for small sinkmarks, in layers, and 1200 for scratches...
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Phreak
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peebeep
Sep 17 2009, 11:09 PM
Milliput White (super fine) definitely.

A while back I bought a small bottle full of 'Micro Balls' (stop sniggering at the back!). I think these are an expensive and profitable way of selling talcum powder...although they are effective at bulking up a surface and a drop of thin cyano will flash set.

peebeep

Thanks for the tips Pablo

Right then, I'm off to liberate some talc from the bathroom and have a bash at this. It looks like some white Milliput is in order too.
am I right in saying that you can quickly smooth Milliput with a damp finger when applied?

TIA
Rich
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peebeep
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Phreak
Sep 18 2009, 05:24 PM
am I right in saying that you can quickly smooth Milliput with a damp finger when applied?

You certainly can, can't beat a wet tool for working Milliput (ooh er, missus!).

Provided it's mixed up correctly Milliput is a perfect lazy boy way of filling with minimal or no sanding. Use small quantities when mixing (pea sized or smaller as required) and roll each component into a thin string. Blend the two together, separate into half and keep repeating this until the Milliput is perfectly uniform and nicely warmed up. Work it into the gap to be filled and smooth off with a wet finger/implement or moist swab. At normal room temperature you will have about 20-30 minutes before it noticeably starts to firm up, although even when partially cured it can still be worked. Excess can be trimmed off with a sharp blade before it sets really hard. Sanding is best done no longer than a few hours after it has set, which is usually about 2 hours - depends on temperature. After a couple of days it will be rock hard and difficult to work, much harder than plastic, although at this stage it is possible to polish it up to a gloss surface if you're so inclined.

Problems with Milliput (won't set properly, surface friable) are usually down to insufficient mixing, although if you don't trim off any crusty bits prior to mixing that will also lead to hassle.

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les
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Sep 17 2009, 10:18 PM
I use superglue with or without talc for almost everything. For really small stuff and finishing Mr Surfacr 500 or Tamiya Liquid Surface primer is the bees, and if you insist on using Milliput, I think white is about the friendliest for most things.

Jen.

Totally agree jen my choice to :rock:
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Phreak
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Thanks y'all

Gonna do some sperimenting on all these techniques.
I did like the use of the word lazy, that's my first port of call!
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Beer Monster
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A little late into the thread but I use Milliput standard and white. Occasionally Humbrol filler and at the moment I have some Revell Plasto to try.

Yours Aye

Andy
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The Hooded Claw
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I've recenly binned Milliput and switched to the slightly more expensive but a damn sight more usable Gunze two part sold by MDC. This stuff is simply superb, easy to mix, very pliable and sets quickly with monimum wastage due to the format.

Try some you may be pleasantly surprised.

THC
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Karl Robinson
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desmojen
Sep 17 2009, 10:18 PM
I use superglue with or without talc for almost everything. For really small stuff and finishing Mr Surfacr 500 or Tamiya Liquid Surface primer is the bees, and if you insist on using Milliput, I think white is about the friendliest for most things.

Jen.

Yup, same here... can't beat CA/talc filling for speed and efficiency :)

Only time I ever use Milliput is somewhere where there's no chance of getting in to sand anything. Then I'll use it and smooth down while wet, as previously suggested.

Karl.
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Bazza
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i use AV white model Putty,for fine-filling,it's water-based,so easily smoothed down,with a wet finger-tip. :clap:
As for Humbrol Filler,i hate it !! It ALWAYS goes dry,in the tube,after the initial application. :crying: :hammer:
(advice needed here,guys....)
Cheers,Bazza.
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Phreak
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Bazza
Mar 2 2010, 03:09 PM
i use AV white model Putty,for fine-filling,it's water-based,so easily smoothed down,with a wet finger-tip. :clap:
As for Humbrol Filler,i hate it !! It ALWAYS goes dry,in the tube,after the initial application. :crying: :hammer:
(advice needed here,guys....)
Cheers,Bazza.

Errrrr, don't use Humbrol filler? :P
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peebeep
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Humbrol filler = stuff that drops out of Beelzebub's bottom.

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Boffin
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I tend to use Squadron Green putty, heavily thinned down with Revell Contacta Cement.

Mixing it in a Beer Bottle top encourages me to indulge in my other hobby :beer:

Then apply sparingly with a cocktail stick to reduce cleanup.

Have also tried cyano and talc with mixed results (tends to go off before I've finished furtlling with it. :shrug:

Cheers,

Rob M.

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Bazza
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Mar 2 2010, 08:51 PM
I tend to use Squadron Green putty, heavily thinned down with Revell Contacta Cement.

Mixing it in a Beer Bottle top encourages me to indulge in my other hobby  :beer:

Then apply sparingly with a cocktail stick to reduce cleanup.

Have also tried cyano and talc with mixed results (tends to go off before I've finished furtlling with it.  :shrug:

Cheers,

Rob M.

Thanks for that Rob,Squadron Green stuff is QUITE expensive,and wondered what could be used to thin it down....
On the other hand,those FUMES..... :wooo: :wooo: :whistle:
Cheers,Bazza
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phantomdriver
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nail polish remover-Superdrug.........
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Bill Clark
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I'm one of those rare modellers that never need to use filler.....

Sorry..just dozed off and must have been dreaming........

Filler - yes - superglue, heat stretched sprue, Mr surfacer for smaller bits/seams etc.,

I never use Milliput for filler - but to construct or reconstruct areas. White Milliput is vastly suoerior than the green/grey stuff - and as Paul says drys well-hard!!
I always use wet n'dry - wet - and try to sand where possible in a circular motion.
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