Sucide A New Debate

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Sucide A New Debate
Topic Started: Mar 22 2005, 12:03 AM (153 Views)
The Punisher	Mar 22 2005, 12:03 AM Post #1
Posts: 3,691 Group: Admin Member #18 Joined: November 15, 2004	;) OKAY this rise from the other topic This is a subject which may be hard to post in so be warned. Why do people decide to kill themselves, do you think a drug could do this to a person. So many people who kill themself never think who are they leaving behind: in fact kids do it to escape life maybe either they witness a terrible tragedy in their lives and the pain is to hard to bear, and they take their lives. Now where do they go HEAVEN OR HELL
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flower	Mar 27 2005, 12:25 AM Post #2
Being Born Moderator Debate and Politics Moderator Posts: 383 Group: Moderator Member #16 Joined: November 15, 2004	i agree with u sometimes there so much pain in kids minds that they cant see how much love there really is for them i still maintain that u will go to hell for killin yourself simply cause u cant ask God for forgiveness cause ur dead lol to wrap this up killin ur self is not the way to go
	is there any help out there for me????


The Punisher	Mar 27 2005, 05:08 PM Post #3
Posts: 3,691 Group: Admin Member #18 Joined: November 15, 2004	yes i know but how can u seek help if no one will
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Mental_assasin	Apr 1 2005, 11:29 PM Post #4
Posts: 719 Group: Members Member #49 Joined: January 12, 2005	Ok, my voice of experience. For about three years i was suicidal. People making fun of me, calling me a fag, or gay. Or making dumb remarks. There was one time when i got all the pills out of my cubbord and was going to take them ( i know your never going to beleive this, but read on) I was about to take the first one, Nitroglyceren, when i fainted and had a wierd dream, This is how it went; A voice said this; Quote: Will I be denied Christ? (Evanescence song) Quote: Isn't someone missing me? To make an incredibly long BORING story short. Music saved my life, and i can say this without a doubt in my mind, if i had killed myself, i would be in hell. Suicide Preventiong sites. http://www.save.org/ http://www.psycom.net/depression.central.suicide.html This if your christian http://www.godtest.com/ http://www.mydna.com/health/mental/schizoph/specific/ If anyone reading this is thinking about taking there own lives, please find help, taking your own life only causes pain for more people that know and care about you. Please, don't take your own life. I almost did. Its not worth it.
	I AM BACK!!!!! GO JOHN!!!


The Punisher	Apr 4 2005, 12:13 AM Post #5
Posts: 3,691 Group: Admin Member #18 Joined: November 15, 2004	Mental_assasin Apr 2 2005, 04:29 AM Ok, my voice of experience. For about three years i was suicidal. People making fun of me, calling me a fag, or gay. Or making dumb remarks. There was one time when i got all the pills out of my cubbord and was going to take them ( i know your never going to beleive this, but read on) I was about to take the first one, Nitroglyceren, when i fainted and had a wierd dream, This is how it went; A voice said this; Quote: Will I be denied Christ? (Evanescence song) Quote: Isn't someone missing me? To make an incredibly long BORING story short. Music saved my life, and i can say this without a doubt in my mind, if i had killed myself, i would be in hell. Suicide Preventiong sites. http://www.save.org/ http://www.psycom.net/depression.central.suicide.html This if your christian http://www.godtest.com/ http://www.mydna.com/health/mental/schizoph/specific/ If anyone reading this is thinking about taking there own lives, please find help, taking your own life only causes pain for more people that know and care about you. Please, don't take your own life. I almost did. Its not worth it. ;) that was a great post and helpful info. their was a commercial on tv that stated, if a freind was drowning would you watch or help. also if you think of killing yourself consider this who will be hurting even do people say nasty stuff their are people who care for you. do they count
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Mental_assasin	Apr 6 2005, 12:38 PM Post #6
Posts: 719 Group: Members Member #49 Joined: January 12, 2005	Good point too Pun, you don't have to deal with people your entire life, but suicide is an eternal choice.
	I AM BACK!!!!! GO JOHN!!!


The Punisher	Apr 6 2005, 10:32 PM Post #7
Posts: 3,691 Group: Admin Member #18 Joined: November 15, 2004	yep by killing yourself now you must take it up with god. please if you know someone that is thinking about sucide give them help.
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malice_angel	Jul 30 2006, 01:52 PM Post #8
Debate Moderator Web O Rama Moderator Posts: 83 Group: Moderator Member #250 Joined: July 28, 2006	Since the Christians believe that God, forgives all sins, I'm sure, he must forgive this one also! This reminds me of the song Tourniquet of EV. I'm not a Christian myself (not anymore). I will open a new thread on religions! So we can debate about that!



Missy	Sep 9 2006, 06:21 AM Post #9
Posts: 447 Group: Members Member #207 Joined: March 8, 2006	when i was young my brother asked for help. but no amount of help was enough. and 11 years ago he shot himself. after that happened funnily enough an e nglish paper i had to do for school. title was suicide is painless. true or false. my brothers death tore the entire family apart. and i thought for a very long time about doing the same. i missed my brother i wanted to join him. i am not religious i cant honestly say i wondered where his soul went. but i know when i had a very bad day i would put on music he liked, or films he loved... and he would be there with me... so heaven or hell... when they die they never leave... coz in ur hearts they are still there :)



The Punisher	Sep 10 2006, 01:20 AM Post #10
Posts: 3,691 Group: Admin Member #18 Joined: November 15, 2004	I am sorry to hear that he at peace Now
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Missy	Sep 10 2006, 10:27 AM Post #11
Posts: 447 Group: Members Member #207 Joined: March 8, 2006	yes he is. but suppose that doesnt really answer your question if they go to heaven or hell.



The Punisher	Sep 10 2006, 11:33 AM Post #12
Posts: 3,691 Group: Admin Member #18 Joined: November 15, 2004	I don't Know the answer but try asking an preacher, I look it up in the bible for u
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Missy	Sep 10 2006, 03:55 PM Post #13
Posts: 447 Group: Members Member #207 Joined: March 8, 2006	I have to admit... on this one i got very curious on what people did think. most people did think that you would go to hell coz it is a sin. and u cannot ask for forgiveness after u r dead and u cannot ask for forgivenes on a sin u have not commited yet. the best one i got was depends on how u lived your life. IE;- if all your life you lived a decent life., but yey something happens and you feel you cannot go on then you would still go to heaven but in my friends exactly words " 2 be prepared 4 a swift kick up the behind 4 being a STUPIT IDIOT & then come bk as an angel 2 look over those u love & protect them & c them through the good & bad times ...thats my opinion i dont know if people would agree with me " but if someone who had done un forgivable things and then took their own life to escape punishment. then they would go to hell.



The Punisher	Sep 10 2006, 04:31 PM Post #14
Posts: 3,691 Group: Admin Member #18 Joined: November 15, 2004	I agree with you some great points are awesome and true. I think it will be between you and god.
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Sparkling Angel	Sep 10 2006, 07:05 PM Post #15
��_Lost Fallen Angel_�� Posts: 765 Group: M-Squad Member #180 Joined: November 29, 2005	Wow. That is so true. I agree as well.



Missy	Sep 10 2006, 08:08 PM Post #16
Posts: 447 Group: Members Member #207 Joined: March 8, 2006	i dont beleive in god, to me its between you and yourself. if you suffer from mental disorder... and at this moment anyone who reads the journals will know i am having a period of it myself. then sometimes its out of your hands. you do not see anyway out and to die will bring peace. but i would say to anyone who is in that place, it really is true that if you are pateint and work through it... you do finally come out the other end. and usually alot stronger than you started :)



malice_angel	Sep 13 2006, 02:01 PM Post #17
Debate Moderator Web O Rama Moderator Posts: 83 Group: Moderator Member #250 Joined: July 28, 2006	missymoo Sep 10 2006, 08:08 PM i dont beleive in god, to me its between you and yourself. I agree with that!!! But I understand why people think of suicide. Such thought have run across my minds various times :( but I've tried to redeem myself with music and poetry. And I'll keep doing that... but lately I'm just happy :lol: and I want to stay like that.



Missy	Sep 15 2006, 04:32 AM Post #18
Posts: 447 Group: Members Member #207 Joined: March 8, 2006	i agree with an you and an earlier post... music can really save your life.



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