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Cartoon And Family Icons Gay?
Topic Started: Jan 27 2005, 08:48 PM (98 Views)
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  • Okay so i was watching ABC news or something like that, i was gonig to change the channel because i rarely watch ABC news but right then tom brokaw says, Buster the bunny budget as been cut because of the show including two lesbian parents, on the postcard poriton of the show, for those of you who have never seen the show it has a cartoon porition then a porition of kids that send in video postcards of their family and the show aris them it's normally of different religions and races showing how they live in their culture. things of that sort. so the kids send in the video, and shockingly ABC shows us the video, and NO WHERE in the video did they or the kid say she had two lesbian parents! AT ALL! the only way kids would have gotten that they where gay is if someone told them or the telvision show told them, which did happen. the kids watching would have been clueless, unless they were knowlegeable about gays.

I have watched several cartoons/Kid Programs when i was young, as I'm sure most of you have including Buster (the white rabbit), Sesame Street (mainly bert and ernie), and the recent cartoon hit Sponge Bob Suqare pants. And all of a sudden Christian rights activist come along saying, "the shows contain and/or condone homosexual acts and intercourse."

I was completly enraged. Can't you guys pick on something else (not meaning anyone on this board, unless your one of them lol.)??? i have watched these for almost my entire life, and i have never found anything homosexual or have become atracted to the same sex from watching these show/program(s) (Nor am i going to anything now or in the future.) here's some articles that i found just 'googling' this topic,

IN ORDER:: SPONGE BOB - BERT&E

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The virtuous vs. SpongeBob

Kathleen Parker, Knight Ridder/Tribune. Kathleen Parker is a syndicated columnist for the Orlando Sentinel, a Tribune newspaper
Published January 26, 2005

Among the many blessings I have failed to fully appreciate is my exemption--thanks to my children's advanced years--from having to know much about SpongeBob SquarePants.

Until recently, I've been only blandly aware of the cartoon character and his underwater cohorts. I've now learned that SpongeBob--an otherwise blithering sea sponge--is really a covert operative for The Homosexual Agenda.

For those otherwise distracted, SpongeBob is the protagonist in both a movie and a television series. Hugely popular among the kindergartener-2nd grade set, he sometimes holds hands with heroes Mermaid Man and Barnacle Boy, which supposedly accounts for SpongeBob's reputed popularity among gays.

And hence the notion that his appearance in a new video, "We Are Family"--aimed at teaching schoolchildren about diversity and tolerance--is really a subterfuge for the pro-homosexual agenda.

The SpongeBob saga has gained plenty of attention--what with gay activists on one side and heaven's gatekeepers on the other. James Dobson, founder of the conservative Christian lobbying group Focus on the Family, said the video promotes a pro-homosexual agenda. The American Family Association's Ed Vitagliano wrote in the conservative Christian "family values" advocacy group's journal that the project's subtext is celebrating homosexuality.

The video, scheduled to be aired next month on networks and distributed to 61,000 schools, was conceived shortly after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks as a way of teaching tolerance in a hate-filled world, say its creators. The idea was that teaching children in their tender years to respect differences would pay off in the long run, leading to a cheerier world in which, presumably, Middle Eastern religious nuts wouldn't fly planes into buildings.

Somehow, I think they've missed their target audience, but never mind. Making the video doubtless made many grownups feel better about their own sorrows and helped move them toward that utopian finale so favored by the bracelet-and-ribbon-wearing population: Healing 'n' Closure.

There's now a We Are Family Foundation, a Web site (wearefamilyfoundation.org), a letter-writing campaign urging that March 11 be declared national "We Are Family Day" and, of course, ways to contribute money.

In fact, SpongeBob plays a minor role in the video and seems to have been unfairly impugned. While I vigorously favor protecting children from phase-inappropriate discussions of sexuality, I don't see it here. That said, there's still plenty to cringe about if you're more sympathetically inclined toward "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest's" Randle Patrick McMurphy than Nurse Mildred Ratched.

What Dobson, Vitagliano and others really are objecting to is that kids viewing the video might be inspired to visit the "We Are Family" Web site and happen upon the Tolerance Pledge, by which one promises to respect all people, even those whose "abilities, beliefs, culture, race, sexual identity or other characteristics are different from my own."

Respecting all people is hardly a radical idea for Christians, but Dobson says on his Web site that inclusion of sexual identity in the pledge "crosses a moral line." Personally, I'm still puzzling over "other characteristics." In any case, the pledge seems unlikely to traumatize children, who probably won't find it interesting, if they find it at all. It isn't mentioned in the video and is available only on the foundation's Web site.

If teachers decide to incorporate the Tolerance Pledge into their class curriculum, then that's a matter for closer scrutiny and Dobson is right. In the meantime, there's no coercion here. We're unlikely to witness droves of brainwashed tykes reciting diversity pledges to the annoyance of their beer-swilling parents.

And it would be annoying, let's be clear.

What the SpongeBob controversy has revealed is that pledging allegiance to diversity and tolerance is religion by any other name--just as irksome to the devout as Dobson and Vitagliano are to the secular. The purveyors of Feel Good Vibes can be just as dogmatic and unyielding as those who condemn from the pulpit. Whether defending literal scripture or advancing bumper-sticker virtue, the self-anointed protectorate are essentially cut from the same cloth.

And they're likely bound for similar rewards. For what we know about human beings is that people tend to resist that which is imposed from on high. By some natural law that we might call "SpongeBob's Ironic Rule of Reverse Effects," channelers of piety usually exact the opposite of what they intend.

There's nothing like a preacher railing against sin to whet one's appetite for iniquity. And there's nothing like force-feeding children a diet of dogma to turn the little darlings into intolerant totalitarian tyrants. Or angry renegades who will seek an outlet for their rage.




BERT AND ERNIE, sorry i could not find that much stuff on this since it was back in 2002. But trust me the accusations have been made.

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Sesame Street legal: Furore over Bert and Ernie gay flick

Children's Television Workshop gets steamed up over Sundance-shown queer spoof

Guardian Unlimited
Wednesday April 10, 2002

Lawyers acting for the beloved kids' show Sesame Street have targeted director Peter Spears over his short film, Ernest and Bertram, which depicts the show's puppet stars Bert and Ernie as gay lovers.

ABC News reports that Spears' film, which screened at Sundance this year, takes the form of a mockumentary and ends with Ernie committing suicide. But the Children's Television Workshop - the folks behind Sesame Street - are objecting to Spears' portrait of their child-like, bickering muppets as angst-ridden homosexuals. With the threat of legal action looming, it now seems unlikely that Ernest and Bertram will be screened in public for the forseeable future.

Gossip about the private life of the pointy-headed, pedantic Bert and the benign, cuddly Ernie is nothing new. Back in 1993, CTW even went so far as to issue a statement which appeared to insist that the duo were red-blooded Sesame straights: "Bert and Ernie, who've been on Sesame Street for 25 years, do not portray a gay couple, and there are no plans for them to do so in the future. They are puppets, not humans."

But the revelations peddled in Spears' mockumentary is just the latest in a run of bizarre stories swirling around the ill-fated muppets. Late last year, Bert achieved a notoriety his creators could never have envisiaged when he became the unwitting star of the spoof Bert is Evil website, which portrayed the pointy one as a machiavellian genius who consorted with Jerry Springer and the Ku Klux Klan.

At one stage, the muppet even became the focus for anti-US protests in the wake of September 11. Apparently inspired by the website, thousands of pro-Taliban protesters in Bangladesh brandished placards which featured the hapless Bert superimposed alongside Osama Bin Laden.





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well personally i completely agree that it is wrong - the characters have never done anything wrong or untoward. Is society saying that two same sex room mates are gay/lesbian? i believe that society is becoming so picky and unfair - i dont watch spongbob but i used to LOVE LOVE LOVE noddy. he was picked on because he and big ears would sometimes share the same bed/room and i dont see that as a problem - to me they were only ever mates. instead they changed the series around and it completely sucks now.

okay i know this is a slightly different tangent but i just have to talk about it. I was the biggest fan of postman pat ( i can still sing the theme song) and yesterday after about ten years i finally caught a show. Pat has married and had a son - its just wrong it was only ever pat and jesse (his black and white cat) but now they have ruined it - why must things be changed???? pat was probably the bachelor of the year in his town and now its just silly.

Sorry i had to get that outta the system,

but i think that its not fair that religious groups are dictating how a show progresses (story line.) We grew up on these shows and nothing has happened to us... if you dont want your kid to be affected by the evilness - dont let them watch it.
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These religious freaks need to get a life. Cartoon characters aren't gay, becasue they aren't real, and the animator didn't say that they were. If the animator says that two characters are gay in his animation, then that's a different story. These people piss me off.
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well dont beat around the bush jesse tell us how you feel - lol im jjoking you know that.

yeah i agree if an animator wanted them to be gay he/she would create it that way but instead we have a manner of different religions causing trouble and changing our (well my) fav childhood cartoons. Its just crap.
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just as a news update the creator/main artist of Sponge bob stated that SBSP is A sexual joking, of course, he also stated that all of this stuff is taking his creation out of it's orignal context and should just be enjoyed as a humorous and fun character!

atelast he's making fun of the dumb idiots that blow all of this out of porition.
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These types of religious people are what casue me to dislike organized religion in general. I agree with you fsr.
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I have to agree with MSI101, i hate organized religion now because its not about god anymore, we used to look to the heavens now we look to see if he/she is homosexual! Not only that but Nick put out a special for homosexual parents!

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Nickelodeon's June 18 special on homosexual parenting was not a sensitive presentation on a delicate issue; it was a slick piece of cultural propaganda designed to intimidate kids.

In airing the program, the nation's preeminent cable TV channel for children has traded on its brand to provide a new avenue for advocacy of homosexuality.

Aired without commercial interruption after rumors that advertisers didn't want to touch this 30-minute teenage gabfest with a 10-foot pole, the show went to considerable lengths to promote homosexuality and portray even measured, rational disagreement with homosexual behavior as narrow minded and hate-inspired.

The program was promoted as a 'news' show designed for youngsters, but it was little more than a platform for often uninformed opinion from fewer than a dozen teenagers; indoctrination; and the gay proselytizing of three adult in-studio guests.

Void of factual information about the considerable documented health risks associated with homosexual conduct, the program instead staked out a 'take no prisoners' approach to the subject: You either accept and agree with homosexuality or you are guilty of hate.

Among the kids on the show were a few who noted their disagreement with homosexuality based on religious grounds, along with a few pre-packaged sound bites from Culture and Family Institute Senior Fellow Peter LaBarbera and portions of a longer pre-recorded interview with Rev. Jerry Falwell. But these program elements, doubtlessly included in the name of 'balance,' were thin intellectual gruel compared with the overwhelmingly liberal slant of the program.

The show's brief introduction was followed by a gauzy feature segment about a kid being raised by two lesbians and the anxiety she experienced as a result of the intolerance of some of her classmates.

The in-studio kids, three of whom were from households with one or more homosexual parents, then proceeded to swap anecdotes and opinions about homosexuality, alternately demonstrating both the wisdom and naivete of youth.

A subsequent segment of the program delved into some of the reasons many people don't agree with homosexuality, but the entirely gracious remarks by LaBarbera and Falwell were stitched together with those of hard-line homosexuality advocates.

After another round of teen perspective, including a brief discussion on whether there may or may not be any substantive difference between being raised by a mom and dad versus being raised by homosexuals, a third pre-recorded segment was aired, this one equating homosexuality with religion and race.

Ironically, when one child on the set expressed his reservations about homosexuality on religious grounds, he was summarily dismissed as closed minded by a girl raised by homosexuals. So much for tolerance.

Further evidence of the program's pre-determined intention was offered by the closing credits, which acknowledged the cooperation of a smorgasbord of some of the nation's most militant homosexuality advocacy groups, including Parents, Families and Friends of Lesbians and Gays, the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network, and the Human Rights Campaign.

Nickelodeon and supporters of the program it aired Tuesday night will beat their breast about how the show offered a balanced, informed and age-appropriate examination of an issue they say is important to kids.

In fact, Nickelodeon and the show's producers offered up a liberal catechism for children designed to browbeat the next generation into further paying homage to one of the most destructive behaviors on the face of the Earth. Scott Hogenson is executive editor of CNSNews.com.




I must say this......WHY??? Why do the children of america need to be informed of this at such a young age? If parents want there kids to know this stuff, then they will tell them. A TV station shouldn't have to!

As for religion......well.....i don't want to go ther!

I just think that this whole thing is WAY out of proportion!
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Very very way out of proportion but that's the world and we're stuck here!! Until someone changes it and normally it for the worse, i can just see them taking SBSP Sesame Street and the others DOWN for all of this so-called "controversy".

And then what will my kids watch? All of the hate and violence that seems to keep slipping through the cracks of these religious groups. (i.e. the "WAR" on terrorism, people killing themseleves in the streets of major cities, DC, Chicago, etc.). They're more worred about Bert and Ernie when Babu and Ekeke are killing eachother on the 6 o'clock news.

I'm surpirsed they got off of looney tunes being violent for young ages and how Wild E. should try to "kill," catch the Roadrunner everytime. I mean com'on it's a cartoon it's funny the kids dont care what happening as long as Wild E. fails and falls off the mountain at the end. And Daffy Duck gets his head blown off by Bugs tricking Elmer Fudd. THE KIDS DONT CARE.

Just leave it alone it's not harming a single sole, except for the Cartoonist that out of a job NOW!!
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I watched them when I was little, and no harm no foul.

people need to know their is more important things out their then worrying about catoons.

turn it off people
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Part of me agrees with you punisher, but until people get over it, no one WIll Get over it...i konw that doesn't make sense, and its actually a catch 22 but what i mean is that until someone stands up and says, "Shut the (Censored Word) Up" than this is just going to keep going!
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