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| Pixel | May 21 2007, 04:11 PM Post #76 |
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It's not the Xbox I'm lacking, just a way to play it online. Living out in the boonies, broadband options are none, none, and $$$$ (read: sattelite internet service). I'm not sure I'd give MS the money for Live anyway. Back to the cloning thing, I wonder-would clones have the same personalities as the originals? In DOA2, Kasumi's clone seems to have a different personality. (Although, there is very little evidence upon which to base that conclusion. The way she tosses her head back defiantly in response to Kasumi's challenge indicates such a difference, to me anyway.) |
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| blueboy | May 21 2007, 04:23 PM Post #77 |
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only if the clone believes itself to be the original. knowing that it's been copied from an original usually has some form of backlash, so it's highly likely for a clone to have a different persona than their original. |
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| Victorthebattousai | May 21 2007, 06:10 PM Post #78 |
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I meant watching 2 other players face-off against one another lol. You can learn new tricks you didn't know before. As for cloning, here's a problem: You can't copy the soul. If the soul isn't copied, then the personality will lack a true knowledge between right and wrong, no consciense. Thus, you would DEFINITELY have a different personality. |
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| Pixel | May 21 2007, 09:03 PM Post #79 |
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Exactly. They actually mentioned that on a network TV show once- Chicago Hope I believe. I didn't normally watch that show, but remember hearing about this moment where a couple asked one of the doctors if they could save some DNA from the couple's boy, in they event he could ever be cloned. (I believe he was terminally ill. I don't remember the exact details.) The doctor responded that while they might could clone his body, they couldn't clone his soul. This was on network TV where anything even remotely resembling Christian principles is usually fair game for attack. Nonetheless, they and you are both right. The soul cannot be cloned. When people discuss cloning, it ultimately leads to the soul and religious questions. I personally believe that God would step in and give the clone it's own soul. As a human, the clone would inherit from Adam the same knowledge of good and evil (and therefore the same sinful nature) as any naturally born human does. If the clone then has its own soul, it will have its own personality. That raises another question- How much of one's personality is a product of the soul, and how much is other factors? |
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| blueboy | May 22 2007, 11:54 AM Post #80 |
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i'd assume to be alive would be having a soul. all things living in some form or another have souls, at least that's what i believe. copying another's soul is impossible, yet "cloning" pertains to most traits as similar....with a few "exceptions" of. |
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| Stardragon | May 24 2007, 10:11 AM Post #81 |
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That's true but I admire Kasumi's attempt to not injure the innocent. What bugs me is wouldn't the clones be Kasumi's daughters not her sisters? |
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| blueboy | May 24 2007, 11:06 AM Post #82 |
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that, i'm not certain of. in one aspect, these are her sisters....yet on the other hand it could be argued that these clones are her daughters also. yet kasumi didn't give birth to them, so i'd warrant them as her sisters for the genetic material being nearly identical. as for kasumi's conjecture to not injuring the innocent, i think that's a cool yet still underdeveloped trait. as yourself this question: what's her pupose if she's only willing to fight when necessary? team ninja's should think this out more thorougly. kasumi's not hayabusa (who has a purpose regardless of what universe he's placed in), so what's her purpose? |
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| Stardragon | May 24 2007, 06:37 PM Post #83 |
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Okay.  I thought she was supposed to be the leader of the clan. That's true I was wondering what is her real power is and how it affects her clan. 
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| blueboy | May 24 2007, 06:55 PM Post #84 |
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"redheads = :3 :3 :3"
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true stardragon, she was.....but she left the clan in spite of revenge/avenging her older brother's crippling. now that hayate has regained his composure and status as the current leader, what's actually left for kasumi? she can't return home, her own clan's after her head (including ayane of the hajimon), hayabusa's her sole watcher & protector (as hayate himself requested) yet some unknown reasoning propells her to continue in the tournaments. i don't know.......it leaves one to guess i suppose... |
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| Stardragon | May 24 2007, 07:24 PM Post #85 |
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Maybe Hayabusa has an old scroll showing Kasumi as some kind of heroine.
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| Victorthebattousai | May 24 2007, 08:49 PM Post #86 |
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She fights so that her friends won't have to fight. If she can defeat Hayate, then SHE fights Alpha, not him. DoA will always have some uber-boss threatening the world, so Kasumi will always have a "purpose", no matter what. |
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| Pixel | May 24 2007, 11:38 PM Post #87 |
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I agree with Stardragon concerning Kasumi's character, in not wanting to hurt innocent people. Often times ninjas are portrayed as programmed killers. Cold, calculating, having no compunction about harming or killing anyone, even if they're just in the wrong place at the wrong time. It's nice to see one with some feeling anyway. Perhaps that's why she's so popular, I don't know. That, and she's dang good looking too.  I wonder, would Ayane still be so intent on killing her if she was not under orders to? I don't quite get the strange notion of "protection" that seems to pervade the Hayate-Kasumi-Hayabusa storyline. In order to prevent one of them from being severely harmed or killed against a potentially more powerful enemy, they instead seek to fight each other and hopefully be less severely harmed in that process? Doesn't really sound like it would work. I don't get something about the whole. "Kasumi's own clan is out to get her" thing. Why can't Hayate as leader simply grant Kasumi a reprieve? If he can't override the rest of the clan in such a matter, then the leadership position doesn't seem all that significant. |
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| Victorthebattousai | May 25 2007, 05:50 AM Post #88 |
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If alpha fights Hayate=Hayate Dies. Kasumi fights Hayate=He gets a few broken bones. At least in Kasumi's mind, anyway. He COULD tell them to stop, and he may well(everyone was pretty calm with one another in Helena's DoA4 ending, even between Ayane and Kasumi), but the difficulty is, if he went against the tradition, it might cause unrest in the clan. |
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| Stardragon | May 25 2007, 08:47 AM Post #89 |
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That's true but I wonder what they have in mind for Kasumi.
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| blueboy | May 25 2007, 10:51 AM Post #90 |
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never knew she had any friends to begin with. as for fighting alpha, we all know hayabusa's the only match for some ubber boss of the like. this still leaves kasumi at a plot-hindrance. so long as hayabusa's around, ayane, hayate and kasumi will technically be insignifigant still. |
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