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Communists; What we stand for
Topic Started: Oct 4 2007, 10:18 PM (337 Views)
Iron

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*NOTE* work in progress, if anyone would like to contributes or has any corrections.

Communists believe in liberation of the proletariat from their masters, and the proletariat should take charge directly over the means of production. i.e. workers own the factory. Communists believe the sale of labor is wrong since the workers are not paid 100% of what they have produced, and believe laborers are worse than slave. They wish to abolish this sale of labor, in favor of a stateless and classless social organization based on collective ownership of the means of production.

Let me explain a slave is sold once, and bought they are owned and protected by a master, even though their life may be horrible and oppressed they are still protected and give some form of security. Simply because this is in his master's best interest. But under the free market a proletarian must sell themselves everyday, into seven plus hours of slavery. In this case the master, so to speak, has no reason to provide security. The master simply goes out and buys more labor, If the laborer can no longer provide labor at the price they demand. This creates a backwards system instead of the bosses competing for labor, the laborers are competing for bosses. This competition leads laborers to sell their labor for ever less sums where laborers make less and bosses make more. This is right? No, but this is the nature of the free market. It creates ever cheaper and cheaper labor with the price of the products staying relatively the same, so more and more money flows to management while Laborers must work harder and harder for less. The main purpose of a free market is the accumulation of the capital at the cost of product of labor, where it should be opposite. Instead of hoarding the capital under capitalism and exploiting the product of labor, under a communist society labor would actually mean something, and greed would be eliminated because everyone would have an equal share of the capital based on their product of labor. Contrary to the main argument for capitalism, which is the harder you work the more successful you are, the truth is that under a capitalistic society the more you exploit and the less you work hard the more capital you accumulate. In alternative, production is aimed for consumption rather than profit.

To prevent this communists organize labor to be their own bosses, a factory would be ran by a committee elected from the workers. Profits would be divided equally between all the laborers. They “collectivize” the factories, the farms, the mines, and so forth. Collectivization is a just a simple term for what I have been describing, when all the workers stand up and become their own management, to share and cooperate. Everything from food to CDs would be collectivised, and in a sense "free", because the capitalists would no longer be accumulating capital by robbing it from the pockets of the workers themselves. Direct-Democracy is absolutely indispensable to a Communist workplace.

Moreover, to expound on Direct-Democracy, there is a sharp difference between Bourgeois Republican Democracy to the Workers' Direct-Democracy practiced in a Communist society. In a Workers' Democracy, every vote and discussion is taken into account and all are a direct part of the decision-making process. Thus, almost every time, things will work smoothly and favor the Workers' decision at all times, providing a happy and Communist community.

Most people incorrectly assume that in a communist society people will own nothing. This is wrong because only private property is abolished, which is factories, land, houses, etc. People will still have their personal property in a communist society, their cars, computers, clothes, etc. The collectivisation of private property helps all of the community and makes sure everyone has equal share and say. All these commodities, as in computers and other generally expensive goods, would be, in theory, in a surplus and therefore enough for all. This is based on the phrase "From each according to his abilties, to each according to his needs." said by Karl Marx in his Critique of the Gotha Programme. This means people are provided free education and are given the choice to contribute (rather than work for money by doing) to society in any way they wish. This will create enough for all, at almost all times, and therefore all people's needs are sufficiently supplied.

"Anarchism is not mysticism: it is not a discourse on beauty; it is not a cry of despair. Its greatness is due, above all, to its devotion to the cause of oppressed humanity. It carries within itself the truth, and the aspiration of the masses, and is today the only social doctrine the masses can count on in their struggle."
-Nestor Makhno
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Not bad so far...

Consult marxists.org or here

Talk about collectivisation more.
"Let the ruling classes tremble at a Communist revolution. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains. Working men of all countries, unite!"
-Karl Marx
''If there is hope, it lies in the Proles.''
-1984
"Freedom only for the members of the government, only for the members of the Party - though they are quite numerous - is no freedom at all."
-Rosa Luxemberg
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You've given a good account of how the capitalist create surplus value by paying workers less for the hours they have worked, keeping the extra output for himself.

I hope you don't mind, but I modified the grammar a little, but left the content intact.

When you come to it, it might be good to talk about the differences between bourgeois 'democracy' and workers' democracy.
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Oct 6 2007, 01:00 AM
You've given a good account of how the capitalist create surplus value by paying workers less for the hours they have worked, keeping the extra output for himself.

I hope you don't mind, but I modified the grammar a little, but left the content intact.

When you come to it, it might be good to talk about the differences between bourgeois 'democracy' and workers' democracy.

no problem, that what i want all the mods and admins to help me write this up and i'll work on add that in
"Anarchism is not mysticism: it is not a discourse on beauty; it is not a cry of despair. Its greatness is due, above all, to its devotion to the cause of oppressed humanity. It carries within itself the truth, and the aspiration of the masses, and is today the only social doctrine the masses can count on in their struggle."
-Nestor Makhno
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I hope you do not mind, I added to it a little bit.
"Let the ruling classes tremble at a Communist revolution. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains. Working men of all countries, unite!"
-Karl Marx
''If there is hope, it lies in the Proles.''
-1984
"Freedom only for the members of the government, only for the members of the Party - though they are quite numerous - is no freedom at all."
-Rosa Luxemberg
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Iron

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sounds good
"Anarchism is not mysticism: it is not a discourse on beauty; it is not a cry of despair. Its greatness is due, above all, to its devotion to the cause of oppressed humanity. It carries within itself the truth, and the aspiration of the masses, and is today the only social doctrine the masses can count on in their struggle."
-Nestor Makhno
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I've made various edits. I added a paragraph on Direct-Democracy as Philosophical Materialist suggested.
"Bourgeois class domination is undoubtedly a historical necessity, but, so too, the rising of the working class against it. Capital is a historical necessity, but, so too, its grave digger, the socialist proletariat."

-Rosa Luxemburg
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