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politics; where do you stand
Topic Started: Sep 26 2007, 09:21 PM (713 Views)
RedStaredRevolution
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Niels
Sep 28 2007, 01:51 AM
RedStaredRevolution
Sep 28 2007, 01:47 AM
Niels
Sep 28 2007, 01:44 AM
I think static ideologies are detrimental to our movement.

My beliefs are some sort of fusion of Marxism, anarcho-syndicalism, and situationist thought... with my own unique twist.

im pretty sure that when most people label themselves as something its not dogmatic. like for me, i call myself an anarcho-communist but i share ideas with other kinds of leftism as well, just a majority of my ideas are anarchist-communist.

Good to hear.

But many people will refuse to work with anarchists because they are "Leninists" or vice-versa.

i agree that sectarian bullshit is bad. however most of my friends and i work with plenty of other people with different ideologies. ive worked with just about every kind of anarchist, trots, leninists, maoists, etc. and am friends with most of them. people who refuse to work with others based on ideology really need to get over themselves but ive havent run into to much sectarianism outside the internet.
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Niels
Sep 27 2007, 08:51 PM
RedStaredRevolution
Sep 28 2007, 01:47 AM
Niels
Sep 28 2007, 01:44 AM
I think static ideologies are detrimental to our movement.

My beliefs are some sort of fusion of Marxism, anarcho-syndicalism, and situationist thought... with my own unique twist.

im pretty sure that when most people label themselves as something its not dogmatic. like for me, i call myself an anarcho-communist but i share ideas with other kinds of leftism as well, just a majority of my ideas are anarchist-communist.

Good to hear.

But many people will refuse to work with anarchists because they are "Leninists" or vice-versa.

I think all people who are communists/anarchists are welcome here as long as they are not stalinists or other totalitarians :)
"Let the ruling classes tremble at a Communist revolution. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains. Working men of all countries, unite!"
-Karl Marx
''If there is hope, it lies in the Proles.''
-1984
"Freedom only for the members of the government, only for the members of the Party - though they are quite numerous - is no freedom at all."
-Rosa Luxemberg
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Iron

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communists/anarchists are welcome as long as there not stalinists or totalitarians... i don't think you have to worry about anarchists being either
"Anarchism is not mysticism: it is not a discourse on beauty; it is not a cry of despair. Its greatness is due, above all, to its devotion to the cause of oppressed humanity. It carries within itself the truth, and the aspiration of the masses, and is today the only social doctrine the masses can count on in their struggle."
-Nestor Makhno
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rocker935
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I fuckin hate stalinists, lol. But i am pretty sure that we will see some totalitarians on here.
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RSOA
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I'd label myself as somewhere between anarchist and communist, so I guess anarcho-communist, but since I'm not the most educated, it'll probably be bound to change.
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Marxist-Leninist but of course if any true leftist uprising happens (that's "from-below"), I will support it.

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RedStaredRevolution
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Sep 28 2007, 02:16 AM
communists/anarchists are welcome as long as there not stalinists or totalitarians... i don't think you have to worry about anarchists being either

stalinists may be crazy :P but i dont think they should be banned unless they show signs of homophobia, anti-working class sympathies, or other cappie/fash ideas. most people on here so far may not agree with them, but they should still be allowed to post and share their ideas.
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RedStaredRevolution
Sep 30 2007, 05:46 PM
Iron
Sep 28 2007, 02:16 AM
communists/anarchists are welcome as long as there not stalinists or totalitarians... i don't think you have to worry about anarchists being either

stalinists may be crazy :P but i dont think they should be banned unless they show signs of homophobia, anti-working class sympathies, or other cappie/fash ideas. most people on here so far may not agree with them, but they should still be allowed to post and share their ideas.

We ought to decide whether Stalinists and Maoists are welcome here. I have no love for Stalinism or Maoism but I feel they be allowed to contribute unless they break any of the messageboard rules.
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Sep 30 2007, 06:07 PM
RedStaredRevolution
Sep 30 2007, 05:46 PM
Iron
Sep 28 2007, 02:16 AM
communists/anarchists are welcome as long as there not stalinists or totalitarians... i don't think you have to worry about anarchists being either

stalinists may be crazy :P but i dont think they should be banned unless they show signs of homophobia, anti-working class sympathies, or other cappie/fash ideas. most people on here so far may not agree with them, but they should still be allowed to post and share their ideas.

We ought to decide whether Stalinists and Maoists are welcome here. I have no love for Stalinism or Maoism but I feel they be allowed to contribute unless they break any of the messageboard rules.

I think they should. I personally know a couple maoists and have worked with them. Theyre politics may be shit but theyre normal people too. They should have a voice in this forum unless they start getting really crazy (like MIM :P ).

just my 2 cents.
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Iron

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Sep 30 2007, 06:07 PM
RedStaredRevolution
Sep 30 2007, 05:46 PM
Iron
Sep 28 2007, 02:16 AM
communists/anarchists are welcome as long as there not stalinists or totalitarians... i don't think you have to worry about anarchists being either

stalinists may be crazy :P but i dont think they should be banned unless they show signs of homophobia, anti-working class sympathies, or other cappie/fash ideas. most people on here so far may not agree with them, but they should still be allowed to post and share their ideas.

We ought to decide whether Stalinists and Maoists are welcome here. I have no love for Stalinism or Maoism but I feel they be allowed to contribute unless they break any of the messageboard rules.

We should allow both... unless they become trolls or otherwise degrerative to the fourm. we shouldn't encourage sectarianism
"Anarchism is not mysticism: it is not a discourse on beauty; it is not a cry of despair. Its greatness is due, above all, to its devotion to the cause of oppressed humanity. It carries within itself the truth, and the aspiration of the masses, and is today the only social doctrine the masses can count on in their struggle."
-Nestor Makhno
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Iron
Sep 30 2007, 06:29 PM
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Sep 30 2007, 06:07 PM
RedStaredRevolution
Sep 30 2007, 05:46 PM
Iron
Sep 28 2007, 02:16 AM
communists/anarchists are welcome as long as there not stalinists or totalitarians... i don't think you have to worry about anarchists being either

stalinists may be crazy :P but i dont think they should be banned unless they show signs of homophobia, anti-working class sympathies, or other cappie/fash ideas. most people on here so far may not agree with them, but they should still be allowed to post and share their ideas.

We ought to decide whether Stalinists and Maoists are welcome here. I have no love for Stalinism or Maoism but I feel they be allowed to contribute unless they break any of the messageboard rules.

We should allow both... unless they become trolls or otherwise degrerative to the fourm. we shouldn't encourage sectarianism

YOU SHALL RESPECT MY AUTHORITY!

Just kidding....
Maoists will be allowed, and a good deal of Stalinists, not the extremist ones though (me and Redboy already decided this)
"Let the ruling classes tremble at a Communist revolution. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains. Working men of all countries, unite!"
-Karl Marx
''If there is hope, it lies in the Proles.''
-1984
"Freedom only for the members of the government, only for the members of the Party - though they are quite numerous - is no freedom at all."
-Rosa Luxemberg
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Red_Soldier90
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I am a Leninist. I support the admin on avoiding extreme Stalinist and Maoists, I personally find them to be somwhat irritating.
"If you strike at, imprison, or kill us, out of our prisons or graves we will still evoke a spirit that will thwart you, and perhaps, raise a force that will destroy you! We defy you! Do your worst!"
-James Connolly
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Herman
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Scientific Socialist.

People speak of stalinists and maoists as if they were a plague!

They are leftists like anyone else. There can be as many irritating anarchists as there are stalinists, so allowing them to be here is a must.
Our tenets are:

- Participatory or direct democracy.
- Nationalization under worker's and trade union management.
- Reconstruction of the constitution and the state.
- Raising of minimum wages, working conditions, normal living conditions, etc.
- Uphold technocratic and scientific ideas, e.g. Currency change from normal money (coins and bill notes) to energy currency.
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there is nothing wrong with anarchists (unless they are anarcho-cappies) but stalinists are the worst of the bunch. They are almost fascists, maoists I can understand somewhat, but not the stalinists.
"Let the ruling classes tremble at a Communist revolution. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains. Working men of all countries, unite!"
-Karl Marx
''If there is hope, it lies in the Proles.''
-1984
"Freedom only for the members of the government, only for the members of the Party - though they are quite numerous - is no freedom at all."
-Rosa Luxemberg
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Proley
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I simply refer to myself as a "Marxist". I don't believe in denominalationism when it comes to the revolutionary left. We all have the same goals...our methods just slightly vary. So long as you violently despise capitalism and support the liberation of the working class through revolution, you are a comrade of mine.

Communism or anarchism...whichever works first! :antifa:
Solidarity, revolutionary brothers and sisters!
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