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Topic Started: Jul 12 2012, 08:31 AM (334 Views)
Iniesta	Jul 12 2012, 08:31 AM Post #1
Veteran Sergeant Posts: 486 Group: Members Member #166 Joined: June 11, 2010	på Warseer. Ikke så mye i de, men kom noe på de fleste hærer som "mangler" 8 edition bøker. Filler`n savner mer rumorleaks :-) http://www.warseer.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?12-Warhammer-News-amp-Rumour-Discussion



Iniesta	Jul 25 2012, 11:05 PM Post #2
Veteran Sergeant Posts: 486 Group: Members Member #166 Joined: June 11, 2010	DOC kodexoppdatering i WD august!



Stainawarjar	Jul 26 2012, 12:42 PM Post #3
I'm always angry! Posts: 1,791 Group: Members Member #8 Joined: October 3, 2007	Mye fint i den nye demonbølgen ja. Soul Grinders i fantasy! Har ikke hatt noe hell med å finne reglene for de enda da.
	Bring tilbake Squats, hiv ut Tau! "The problem is that a lot of new players come from the "race generation" they want to define their worth by the "skill" they posses in playing a game of toy soldiers." Hærer i noenlunde spillbar stand: Fantasy: Empire Ogre Kingdoms Daemons 40k: Space Marines (Salamanders, 13th company Space Wolves & Blood Angels) Daemons Dark Eldar Dystopian Wars: FSA


Iniesta	Jul 26 2012, 02:21 PM Post #4
Veteran Sergeant Posts: 486 Group: Members Member #166 Joined: June 11, 2010	Så noe på twf i går. om jeg husker riktig er de på arachnorokbase el kanskje større. 250 poeng. kan oppgraderes m stonethrover for 50p. 4 attack som autohit om motstander feiler initiativtest m.m Edited by Iniesta, Jul 31 2012, 08:37 AM.



rusty	Jul 30 2012, 06:55 AM Post #5
Asrai Herald of Slaanesh Posts: 1,069 Group: Members Member #26 Joined: November 8, 2007	Jeg kommer nok til å kombinere mine to Slaaneshchariots på en 150x100 base for å prøve.
	mvh Tor Erling


Dark Reaper	Jul 30 2012, 06:46 PM Post #6
Hardened Veteran Posts: 109 Group: Members Member #213 Joined: November 23, 2011	Soul grinder 250pts Stone thrower 50pts Fire thrower 50pts Bolt thrower 55pts M8ws3bs3s6t7w6i3a4ld7 Arachnarokbase sidelengs.



Stainawarjar	Jul 31 2012, 05:17 PM Post #7
I'm always angry! Posts: 1,791 Group: Members Member #8 Joined: October 3, 2007	Leste oppdateringsblekka i nye WD i dag, virker på meg som om demoner har blitt dårligere i fantasy og bedre i 40k... Bra jobb GW
	Bring tilbake Squats, hiv ut Tau! "The problem is that a lot of new players come from the "race generation" they want to define their worth by the "skill" they posses in playing a game of toy soldiers." Hærer i noenlunde spillbar stand: Fantasy: Empire Ogre Kingdoms Daemons 40k: Space Marines (Salamanders, 13th company Space Wolves & Blood Angels) Daemons Dark Eldar Dystopian Wars: FSA


Mordred	Jul 31 2012, 07:50 PM Post #8
Guardsman Posts: 16 Group: Members Member #182 Joined: March 29, 2011	Slik jeg ser det har Screamers blitt spillbare (selv om de økte 10p i pris og mistet sitt auto-s5 slashing attack), Flamers har blitt dårligere i nærkamp og dyrere, med et mer random skyteangrep (1/6 sjanse for å gi fienden permanent 6+ regeneration og 1/6 sjanse for å gi d3 ekstra wounds). Soulgrinderen var latskap fra GW's side. Samme mini + base = Bam! Nytt produkt. De kunne gjort et forsøk på å få den til å se mindre 40K ut med litt ekstra bits da :/. Passer bedre inn i WoC-lista sammen med hellcannon, som enda en daemon-possesed machine/construct, selv om den er litt mer "fare out" De vognene var et morsomt tillegg, selv om jeg aldri har spillt med vogner før da. Likte den nye Blue Scribes figuren. Den var mye bedre enn herralden og de nye horrorene generelt. Hadde håpet på nye greater daemons, men siden de akkurat ble sluppet i fine cast, så er det vel bare å se lenge etter... Ønsker meg også mer fleksible regler for å kombinere de forskjellige chaos fraksjonene igjen nå som det har blitt mer åpning for det i 40k og gjennom Storm of Magic. Ellers likte jeg de nye plaguebearerne/flamerne, men er enda i tenkeboksen for nurglingene, Artig at de stack'er opp slik, men de (og egentlig plaguebearene også) er litt for "rene". Her må det brukes litt tekstur-maling tror jeg
	Fantasy: Daemons of Chaos (3k), Vampire Counts (3k?), Warriors of Chaos (3k?) 40k: Necron, Daemons BFG: Necron, Imperial, Chaos + div eldar/convoy


Iniesta	Aug 1 2012, 08:33 AM Post #9
Veteran Sergeant Posts: 486 Group: Members Member #166 Joined: June 11, 2010	All over så har nok deamons fått en liten powerboost(i og med mer fleksibilitet med flere bra units), en hær som virkelig ikke trengte det sammenlignet med hva som er 8 edition standard.. Synes de burde benyttet sjansen til å nerfe bloodletters med det samme de holdt på. Men det er lov å håpe at det kommer en ny bok i nær fremtid, hadde bare håpet at dette var en full kodex i white dwarf og ikke bare en salgsbooster. Kodexoppdateringer via white dwarf kunne satt fart på 8 edition oppdateringene. Noen som har funnet white dwarf for august i Trondheim (må vel ha det for som VC boosten i fjor høst kommer vel ikke disse reglene på nett eller andre steder)? Edited by Iniesta, Aug 1 2012, 09:31 AM.



Stainawarjar	Aug 1 2012, 06:09 PM Post #10
I'm always angry! Posts: 1,791 Group: Members Member #8 Joined: October 3, 2007	Outland har WD. Jeg vet ikke om jeg egentlig er helt enig i at demoner har blitt bedre, i og med at flamers, som jeg vil hevde var den beste uniten deres, fikk en ganske kraftig nerf. Siden de gå nye regler kun til nye figurer hadde kanskje bloodletters passet dårlig å nerfe denne gangen, men de kunne gjerne gjort plaguebearers og nurglings litt mer spillbare i fantasy.
	Bring tilbake Squats, hiv ut Tau! "The problem is that a lot of new players come from the "race generation" they want to define their worth by the "skill" they posses in playing a game of toy soldiers." Hærer i noenlunde spillbar stand: Fantasy: Empire Ogre Kingdoms Daemons 40k: Space Marines (Salamanders, 13th company Space Wolves & Blood Angels) Daemons Dark Eldar Dystopian Wars: FSA


Iniesta	Aug 17 2012, 07:10 AM Post #11
Veteran Sergeant Posts: 486 Group: Members Member #166 Joined: June 11, 2010	OOh ser ut til at det er alle chaos + deamons 40k og vanlig for tur nå. Da må trolig HE vente litt lengre ut i 2013. http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?349999-NEW-Deamons-of-Chaos-Rumours Får en til å lure på om det kommer flere "cross over system modeller/units" mellom wfb og 40k.. Edited by Iniesta, Aug 17 2012, 07:15 AM.



Stainawarjar	Aug 17 2012, 01:19 PM Post #12
I'm always angry! Posts: 1,791 Group: Members Member #8 Joined: October 3, 2007	Dette var interessante nyheter ja, ser ut som det er på tide å begynne å pakke penger i madrassen.
	Bring tilbake Squats, hiv ut Tau! "The problem is that a lot of new players come from the "race generation" they want to define their worth by the "skill" they posses in playing a game of toy soldiers." Hærer i noenlunde spillbar stand: Fantasy: Empire Ogre Kingdoms Daemons 40k: Space Marines (Salamanders, 13th company Space Wolves & Blood Angels) Daemons Dark Eldar Dystopian Wars: FSA


Iniesta	Aug 19 2012, 01:40 PM Post #13
Veteran Sergeant Posts: 486 Group: Members Member #166 Joined: June 11, 2010	Woot Lizzies neste sommer :-) Da blir det vel slannerf! WOC, DOC, He først. Så minst 2 releases før WE. Skogen blir vel gammel før den tid.. http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?350143-Fantasy-Release-Order



Iniesta	Jan 11 2013, 10:04 AM Post #14
Veteran Sergeant Posts: 486 Group: Members Member #166 Joined: June 11, 2010	Liker ikke at det er så lite rykter om warhammer som nå tilgjengelig. Men nå kommer snart deamons, så HE og 9. edition kommer neste år, trolig neste sommer vil jeg tippe. dark elfs kommer også neste år, spennende å se om de kommer før eller etter 9 ed boka. Forhåpentligvis skrevet med tanke på 9. ed. WOC kommer også i år og kanskje Lizards. Håper de også kommer med skaven tidlig neste år, da er det mulig med litt mer lik playingground ;-) Deamons battlereport i neste white dwarf, = bok(codex og armybook) i februar da tipper jeg. Det er jo bekreftet at både 40k og vanlig kommer samlet. * lurer på om hvor mange nye enheter som kan brukes i begge bøkene* :-) Khornechariot m kanon, flying monstrous nurglestuff sikkert ++? Dverger jobbes med, men veldig stor omlegging så ikke i år. Så neste år.. Kanskje i nye startersettet til 9. ed? Edited by Iniesta, Jan 11 2013, 12:42 PM.



Iniesta	Jan 23 2013, 08:11 AM Post #15
Veteran Sergeant Posts: 486 Group: Members Member #166 Joined: June 11, 2010	So I have gone through the various forums trying to get information while boared at work. Most has come from Mad Lamb 2 on chamber of the ever chosen. Advance Orders 26th January for release on the 2nd of Feb New stuff: New Book Magic Cards Trogg Vilitch Lord Model Forsaken Dragon Ogres Gorebeast Chariot/ Chariot Mutalith Vortex Beast Slaughterbrute Teaser Video: http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/wn...sp?pid=7200014 Pictures: http://chumphammer.wcp-vancouver.com/?page_id=99 Stuff we know from White Dwarf: Forsaken are a core choice. Forsaken are M6 and D3+1 A. Has it's own D6 chart. One result is ASF. Chaos Knights now buy enscrolled weapons as an upgrade WILL OF CHAOS is not listed beneath lords, heroes, knights etc. Only eye of the gods Mutalith has a bound spell ranged 18’’ Seems it does a toughness test (model/unit?) and there is chances of chaos spawns being produced Marauders did not seem to have marks Slaughter beast is a rare choice and is a bound monster. It is bound to your lord and can have the lords WS. Gorebeast chariot is T6 5W. high Armour save (2+?). It has KB even on Impact hits. Slower than a normal chariot Dragon Ogres are on 50 x 75mm bases Two book items are: chalice of chaos soul feeder gift MAGIC marked casters can choose a different lore or stick with their mark: Tzeentch: Lore of Metal Slaanesh: Lore of Shadow Nurgle: Lore of Death Sig Spell: Tzeentch is Blue fire. 24" D6 SD6 MM. Slaanesh is Lash of slaanesh. 24" straight line form the base in forward arc of the caster. Every model under the line receives S3 AP hit. Nurgle Sig spell is a Template. You place breath tempalte at the base of the caster. All models beneath are forced to test T or suffer 1 W with no AS. Nurgle Attribute is that on a succsessful cast roll a D6. On roll of 6 the casters T an W are both increased by 1 to the end of the game. Slaanesh Attribute is for every wound caused by a spell, roll a D6. if a 6 is rolled the caster recieves +1ws/+1A/+1I Tzeentch Attribute is for every 6 rolled on a successful cast, that caster recieves an additional PD. But only that caster can use the additional dice So Slaanesh & Nurgle wizards are going to be combat beast? I have a funny feeling that the mighty chaos lord will remain over priced compared to already cheap wizards. Maybe the wizards will go up in price? Maaybe??



Iniesta	Jan 30 2013, 08:31 AM Post #16
Veteran Sergeant Posts: 486 Group: Members Member #166 Joined: June 11, 2010	So I'll start with the thing everyone is waiting to here. 50 Great weapon, Khorne Marauders with full command are 580 points, they do however retain their statline Now on the more mundane things that have changed. Mark of Khorne; frenzy Mark of Tzeentch; +1 ward save Mark of Slaanesh; Auto pass fear, terror and panic Mark of Nugrle; Flat -1 to hit in close combat Marks on a per model basis Mutant regen is gone (except throgg), and troll vomit is no longer magical, same cost Chaos ogres gain impact hits Dragon ogres gain halberd option Forsaken are basically the same, same point cost, with a chart of rollable USR, ranging from asf, poison, etc MofK on Forsaken is hatred, MofS is Swiftstride Eye of the gods are all stat increases, except for 12 which turns characters, and chosen champ into Daemon Prince, units gain stubburn Valkia always gets +1 S when she rolls on eye of the gods Sigvald always rolls +1 A on eotgs, and gained T5 Chaos warriors same statline Warhounds true core Chariots as normal true core Hellcannon gains 5+ ward, everything else is the same Chaos lord stays the same, mounts change a little manticore for example, and marks are somewhat cheaper, mundane gear drops in price Chaos sorcerers, lores as rumoured, same statline Daemon Princes!!! A wait for it... Mazing. Chaos lord statline, ws9, S6, 5+ ward, Magical attacks, Unbreakable , must take a mark Khorne is +1s on charge, Nurgle is -1 to hit, Slaanesh is armour piercing?, and Tzeentch is re-roll 1's on ward and channel attempts New stuff: Chimera, SofM stats with a 4+ armour, for X points gains regeneration, for Y points gains s4 flaming breath weapon, tail attack has rules d3 attacks that are +1 to hit in rear Slaughterbrute is basically just a attack machine, bound uses are lord or hero ws, and opperates as normal (S7 or 6 can't rememeber exactly can check later, t6, 4+ armour) or can be unbound in which case its frenzied (which it can't lose), and Random movement 2d6, can buy 2 more s5 attacks Hentical beast, less killy bound spell's effect is roll a d6, 1-5 are d6 T test + effect, 6 is whole unit + effect. On Magic really great spells basically all made to turn the army into a killing machine, some of my favorites are 2 slaanesh spells 2 and 6 are hexes that give the unit ASL, and random movement d6, Treason is no inspiring presences or hold your ground, Phantasmagoria and Pavane, are both there. Nurgle has a lot of spells that are hexes and augments depending on who you use them on. Curse of the leper gives +d3 T to allies or -d3 to enemies. None are AoE if I recall correctly. Gateway on a 10+ for S is 3d6 hits, instead of 2d6 Skullcrushers get regular MC stats, Juggers have 3 attacks at s6 on the charge, Riders buy lances for 3 or EW for 5. Juggers have magical attacks and are only +2 to armour. That's what I got from the top of my head, if people present questions I'll do my best to reply. Juggers are T4, 3 wounds Daemonswords is gone, Magic items are if I recall correctly, Hellfire sword, Sword of change, The nurgle mace, helm of many eyes is now armour, a slaanesh item that gives you an additional attack for every wound you cause (might be a gift actually), The chalice is pretty meh to be honest. Eye of the gods is all stat increases +1 bs is 3, +1 attack, +1s, +1 I, etc. Chosen before game roll, get to roll 3d6 and remove on die. Gifts are mostly pretty cheap, there is one where you trade your attacks for double strength, flaming +5 ward against flaming, poison + 5 ward against poison, scally skin, third eye is back but it doesn't steal spells, an item that gives you +1 spell and +1 to channel. Oh glean magic, lore of tzeentch, your oppenent loses a wizard level, and a randomly determined spell, which you then gain. War shrine is a bound spell, chariot with no impact hits, and doesn't take dangerous terrain or have swift stride d3 units are given a roll on eotg. Its pretty much what I said so far, 2 is take a ld test if you pass your -1 Ld and stupid, fail and your a spawn or removed, Stubburn, as is LD, 12 is daemon prince, 7 is a re-roll for that turn, everything else is a permanent killing stat increase. Marauders are same as now you pay for all their gear in addition, you start with a naked dude. A naked Chaos warrior is 6.25% cheaper, shield same, additional hand weapon same, halberd 300% increase, Great weapon 150% increase. DP: He can take Chaos Armour and a 5+ scaly Skin, so gets to a 2+ save very easily. Can buy wings for a decent amount of points but even with wings and chaos armour he's still cheaper than before (Just) Can take 100pts of gifts and 25pts of Magic Items. Apparently gifts are pretty cool. He's also WS9 and S6, about damn time! Edited by Iniesta, Jan 30 2013, 08:59 AM.


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