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Is Any Character Close Of...; If there is any "Mary-Sue" or "Gary-Stu"
Topic Started: Dec 19 2005, 11:32 AM (842 Views)
katja
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Yeah! that's right, I agree with you. I think that there's no mary-sue or Gary-stue characters in the series but, this is a very popular thing in fics, there you can easily find a character like that.
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Echizen Sakuno,Mar 6 2006
07:06 AM
Kai can't be one,he loses and makes mistakes like Sakura-chan said!Tyson is the one who is almost perfect!! He always wins,and even when he loses he always find a way to come back and win! I still remember that he didn't have much experience on season 1 and he actually won against them all x-x I mean,Max looked way better than him and now he isn't...Kai had a bit beast sooner than Tyson but he won against Kai !! Kai,that has more experience and looks way stronger than Tyson,loses!!! Just because Tyson have that thing of 'the power of friendship' or the thing of believing in himself..xDD Tyson sure looks too perfect,he can do almost anything!!!

Mingming isn't a Mary-sue,btw xDD....

The hot pinkness of your post burned my eyes. I could hardly be bothered to read it.

<3

And now that my moment of meanness is over...

The way I see it, a Mary-Stu Gary-Sue is just a character who is unrealistic. A stock character. Like a damsel in distress. They have no real point, ergo they're not real characters. They're like cardboard cut-outs propped out and made to look pretty. Now let's flesh them out a bit. They're good-looking (maybe they don't have silky blonde/black/red hair that tumbles past their waist, or brilliant blue/green eyes that you could just drown in.), smart, and so on and so forth.

But now here's the real kicker. Mary-Stus and Gary-Sues aren't perfect. They're designed in such a way, with both planning and carelessness, to be a Mary-Stu/Gary-Sue.

Their Stuthor/Suethor makes sure they have flaws, right? But they're usually plot device flaws. Weak knees and what not. They'll lose occasionally, and as such, here's my theory: every character of Beyblade is a Mary-Stu/Gary-Sue in his or her own way. Would you like me to further explain? I shall.

Kai: rich, aristocratic bar steward (which will be censored, but we all know what I'm saying.) who's "hot" and is well-liked by females. He's a good beyblader, and rarely loses. He's stoic, aloof, and is often found brooding against a wall. If a character were like this in any other fanfiction, they would be written off as a Gary-Sue by the majority, would they not? Yes.

Takao: almost constantly winning, ego-centric ball of charisma whom everyone just loves. Maybe not right away, but they all fall in love with him in the end, yes? Plus he has his own fanboy. Who sort of died, but oh well. Takao could be considered good-looking, and obviously he has a tendency to win just about every battle he faces. Because of this, he's obviously a strong beyblader. As such, he'd be considered a Gary-Stu, now wouldn't he? Yeeees.

Brooklyn: good-looking, nature-loving, demure (for a while, anyways), super-strong, power to destroy the world. Need I go on?

It's almost a constant (and I found this especially in season three) that the characters are highly unrealistic, and seem to be quite flat and 2D, half the reason I lost the interest I had in the show. The characters became boring, and the new ones I was looking forward too were annoying as all get out (Mystel, for example, and his silly... catchphrase thing.) and thus... yeah. I lost interest in the show.

This was mostly a ramble but it's late and I'm tired and... yes.
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I would say that Kai, Takao and Brooklyn are gary-stu.

Kai- please *rooleyes* can be noticed, the guy that almost every girl apreciates, that had this whole typical bad past, like Ethe said, Kai rarely loses and when he does he always come back and beats the hell out of the guy..like yeah...

Takao- i am surprised how Gary-stu, Takao actually is.He gets beated, but always manages to beat everybody else no matter how good the player is and even if Takao is a loser in some aspects he is perfect in beyblading like geesh.. all the good players lose to someone like him...pathethic

Brooklyn - obsessive, exagerated with power but a all nature loving and yada yada ..
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;) It all depends on what you define 'perfect' as!

Overall I couldn't care less if there were any Mary-stus or Gary-stus or whatever that term is - I still fell in love with Beyblade!!

Yes, Beyblade to me is filled with idols whom I of course look up to (that's what Beyblade means to me ok?!) but whether you think of being 'perfect' as never ever seeming to lose in a Beyblade battle, or as having no personality flaws whatsoever, I cannot actually think of a character who would match up to either of those statements!

Takao - people seem to think that he never loses, but he does! In the World Championships he always came out on top, but that doesn't mean he registered, competed & practically knocked down each opponent as they showed up! He had losses along the way so he's not perfect; the admirable thing is that despite those losses he still pushed through.
:sweatdrop: I admit it is very farfetched of them to make him keep winning the championships as a whole, but that's limited storyline for you - anime aimed for younger audiences aren't always filled with amazing plot twists!

And Kai... I know G Revolution didn't seem to allow his character to develop as much as some people would have preferred, but I wouldn't label him as boring!!
He's very attractive to many because of his mysterious personality (& because he's hot -^^-) but we should all know that he isn't perfect. A lot of things happened that didn't go his way & he could have handled some situations a little better.
For those of you who now think he's 'boring', what do you want, for him to be overly flashy & probably even more gary-stu???? Doesn't that contradict any belief systems here, because what you're asking is for him to match up to your expectations - i.e. to be perfect!!
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Ethe,May 9 2006
03:44 AM
Echizen Sakuno,Mar 6 2006
07:06 AM
Kai can't be one,he loses and makes mistakes like Sakura-chan said!Tyson is the one who is almost perfect!! He always wins,and even when he loses he always find a way to come back and win! I still remember that he didn't have much experience on season 1 and he actually won against them all x-x I mean,Max looked way better than him and now he isn't...Kai had a bit beast sooner than Tyson but he won against Kai !! Kai,that has more experience and looks way stronger than Tyson,loses!!! Just because Tyson have that thing of 'the power of friendship' or the thing of believing in himself..xDD Tyson sure looks too perfect,he can do almost anything!!!

Mingming isn't a Mary-sue,btw xDD....

The hot pinkness of your post burned my eyes. I could hardly be bothered to read it.

<3

And now that my moment of meanness is over...

The way I see it, a Mary-Stu Gary-Sue is just a character who is unrealistic. A stock character. Like a damsel in distress. They have no real point, ergo they're not real characters. They're like cardboard cut-outs propped out and made to look pretty. Now let's flesh them out a bit. They're good-looking (maybe they don't have silky blonde/black/red hair that tumbles past their waist, or brilliant blue/green eyes that you could just drown in.), smart, and so on and so forth.

But now here's the real kicker. Mary-Stus and Gary-Sues aren't perfect. They're designed in such a way, with both planning and carelessness, to be a Mary-Stu/Gary-Sue.

Their Stuthor/Suethor makes sure they have flaws, right? But they're usually plot device flaws. Weak knees and what not. They'll lose occasionally, and as such, here's my theory: every character of Beyblade is a Mary-Stu/Gary-Sue in his or her own way. Would you like me to further explain? I shall.

Kai: rich, aristocratic bar steward (which will be censored, but we all know what I'm saying.) who's "hot" and is well-liked by females. He's a good beyblader, and rarely loses. He's stoic, aloof, and is often found brooding against a wall. If a character were like this in any other fanfiction, they would be written off as a Gary-Sue by the majority, would they not? Yes.

Takao: almost constantly winning, ego-centric ball of charisma whom everyone just loves. Maybe not right away, but they all fall in love with him in the end, yes? Plus he has his own fanboy. Who sort of died, but oh well. Takao could be considered good-looking, and obviously he has a tendency to win just about every battle he faces. Because of this, he's obviously a strong beyblader. As such, he'd be considered a Gary-Stu, now wouldn't he? Yeeees.

Brooklyn: good-looking, nature-loving, demure (for a while, anyways), super-strong, power to destroy the world. Need I go on?

It's almost a constant (and I found this especially in season three) that the characters are highly unrealistic, and seem to be quite flat and 2D, half the reason I lost the interest I had in the show. The characters became boring, and the new ones I was looking forward too were annoying as all get out (Mystel, for example, and his silly... catchphrase thing.) and thus... yeah. I lost interest in the show.

This was mostly a ramble but it's late and I'm tired and... yes.

I guess that nobody asked you iff you liked or not! thank you for telling what you think but I really think(and know) that she really couldn't care less about your opinio! sorry for being so sincere.. iff you don't like it don't look! You shouldn't write you mean opinnions in this topic (unless you want to hurt my friend's feelings and that would be really bad iff you read the rules look at topic 5!)



And now that my moment of meanness is over...


I think that brooklin is to perfect.. he always wins <.< (funny when he lost against Kai XDD he looked crazy!)
Kai is the favourite course.. I don't like is attitude I think he's to full-of-himself for my taste ^^ (plese don't kill me :sweatdrop: )
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iff you don't like it don't look!

The problem with this is that you need to look at the pink text to realize you don't like it. You didn't need to wig out so much, anyway.

Those who say Tyson is a Gary Stu because he always wins, always recovers 100% from losing.. so does Kai. Hells so does practically every non-'boss' character.

The big matter with this, however.. is the character LIKEABLE? If they are then they're excluded from being a MS/GS, as those types are made to satisfy pretty much only the writer. That's it. There no reason for them besides that.
Nothing would happen in Beyblade if it weren't for Tyson. Stop bagging him just because he fits his archetype.
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the pink DOESN'T BURN MY EYES...i'm not blind :rolleyes: hmph hmph and my sister uses this colour for more than 1 year...couldn't you guys complaining before ?and she won't stop using HER colour ahahaah


brooklyn is too perfect,he always wins everything...
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Sexy_Eiji,May 12 2006
11:05 AM
the pink DOESN'T BURN MY EYES...i'm not blind :rolleyes: hmph hmph and my sister uses this colour for more than 1 year...couldn't you guys complaining before ?and she won't stop using HER colour ahahaah


brooklyn is too perfect,he always wins everything...

Karka people got the point already, ok that it wasn't such kind comment but it actually hurts at times, enough of hitting on the blind person =X

I still defend the theory of Tyson being a gary-stu ^^;; because he is(ok not much of a valid motive XD; ). Just see, first he loses against Kai then suddenly he kicks the hell out of him ...He loses against someone but he always wins after even if he's a loser x___x
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