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Which character do you think developed the most throughout the three seasons and why?
Takao/Tyson 14 (48.3%)
Max 1 (3.4%)
Rei/Ray 4 (13.8%)
Kai 8 (27.6%)
Daichi (even if he only was in one movie and one season) 0 (0%)
Other (specify & explain) 2 (6.9%)
Total Votes: 29
Character Development
Topic Started: Nov 4 2005, 08:26 PM (1,165 Views)
Gladwyn
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A little self-explanatory, but okay.

Which BBA member/other character of your choosing do you think grew up the most/matured the most throughout the three seasons?

My pick is Takao. He grew up a whole lot throughout the seasons, and became a "flawed hero" in G-Revolution, which makes him quite awesome. No longer was he that 9 year old, but he grew up to be a man in context. Very mature now, than he was in Season I.

And I didn't put Kyouju because I plum forgot about him. =D
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I have to agree with you Gladwyn. My pick is also Takao.

He grew up to a mature, not to forget hot, young man. You can see the difference between Takao in season 1 and G-Rev very well.
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I also realize that Takao had changed very much, an incredible amount, since when this all started out. So I had a very hard choice between Takao and Kai.

While Kai didn't really change much in the way he held himself, and how he generally acts, his attitude is different in that he holds respect to his opponents, teammates, etc.. He doesn't look down on people unless they deserve to be looked down upon, and he isn't as sarcastic either <_< .

His... 'heart' and mind and such is what really changed in all this time, though I can see how it would be hard to remember this if you don't really think about it.

He has lots of passion and fire, something that really wasn't much there before. His thirst for being better, the best, probably won't change for him, it's a part of who he is, but it's not like it was before. He'd risk a lot of things to get better at his sport, but anything dishonorable, degrading, or against what he believes in is totally out of the question, unlike before.

So many things of his changed since he joined the Bladebreakers/BBA, his views on life and the most core important things in life, his way of thinking and his emotions, how he treats others(still rather indifferent, but there's a definant and positive change), etc..

Takao really matured, I realize that a lot, and I didn't really think about Kai until now, but Takao's heart and mind is still roughly the same in terms of the most important things to him, because he was more a kind of... moralistic rock I guess you could say, in the way that he had an ethical set of mind at the beginning, and still has that ethical set of mind at the end.

No matter how bad things got, no matter what happened to Takao, he was able to... adapt in some way, or learn from it, and his 'heart of gold', while it might have wavered at times, it sure never completely disappeared. OK, weird... Kai said something much like this in his battle against Takao, which I just rewatched today(I love that battle, it melts my heart just thinking of it...). HEY, see? Even Kai agrees with me :sweatdrop: ! Kinda'...

And anyway, Takao's growing maturity and his life lessons learned were, while very important which changed Takao much throughout the series, was rather expected and normal, it's something that happens in many people's lives, and is usually inevitable(though Takao might have learned these 'life lessons' a bit different then most people...).

But with Kai, the change that went on with him was something that was... something that'll really change so much about him, the core-important things that he probably wouldn't have learned or had change in him if his life kept going the direction it was going with the Bladebrakers(that's a stupid name, because they don't believe it fair to break people's beyblades in battle...). And other stuff... yes...

So, um... that's roughly why I think Kai changed more then Takao... yeah...
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I voted Rei, since I strongly disagree with Tyson being the most developed out of all three seasons. I'm really not in the mood to dissect the show and bring out a bunch of whys at the moment, but VForce was a key in the whole developmental process for a lot of characters, IMO.

For Tyson, I thought he actually de-volved from the first season to VForce. VForce was after Tyson won his first championship, and I don't think he's really been the same since because his ego went through the roof and stayed there well until the end of G-Rev. So when a lot of bad things happened to him in early!G-Rev, I thought it was all apart of the process called karma based on how he treated his teammates throughout VForce. I saw Tyson's development as a "one step forward, five steps back" kind of thing, where for every time he developed/matured in G-Rev, other aspects would just leave his personality very static.

The fact that he's never lost a championship or his bitbeast (save the movie, I think, which still doesn't cover for Tyson's behavior in VForce) makes me think there was a lot more desirable unexplored space left for his development. He's lost battles, sure, but he's never had to face the kind of agony of defeat that his friends had over the three seasons. Even Pokemon's Ash Ketchum, the epitome of what Tyson's character type is, has lost far more championship battles than he's won, and I think a great deal of maturity comes with learning that there is no best Pokemon Master, or in Tyson's case, best Beyblader.

(Whoops, looks like I semi-dissected anyway XD)

For the others... Max has changed in a couple of ways, but out of the selection, I think he and Daichi tie for changing the least amount. I would be interest to see Max change drastically, but everyone including myself enjoy the Maxie charm we've all come to love. And yes, Daichi's not been around long enough to dynamically change himself, though it seems the series left him in a very open-ended sense. Kai.... bounced around all over the place throughout the seasons, but I still say he's practically the same in G-Rev as he was in the first season. VForce would be the odd season out where Kai seemed to be a bit more lax and not so concerned with being a loner... but returned to his roots by the final season, which I still don't get how that came about other than Kai wising up once he saw what the splitting-apart Bladebreakers were doing.

All in all, Kai in G-Rev reminds me much of Kai in the first season, only angstier, which doesn't count much for development in my opinion (I'm probably going to be throttled for saying all this, though!).

As for Other, there aren't many characters who actually evolved over the seasons. In fact, many characters like Lee, Michael, and Tala seemed to GREATLY devolve from the first to the third season, which just isn't cool. Either that, or their personalities were just kind of toned down and were generally made out to be weaker for the benefit of the newer characters and the former!Bladebreakers. Kyouju tried to stand out by blading in his own right, but it seemed to be like a futile effort from the get-go. No matter what Kyouju does, he's never given the enough props (or taking more credit for being the one to SAVE Tyson from his own reckless beyblading). This was evident since season one and still hasn't changed when the series ended.

Rei... is one of the few I think developed in a positive manner. He was the calm, level-headed guy who'd endure anything to prove himself worthy in the first season. That remained well into VForce, only changing with Rei having an extreme sense of justice (vowing to NEVER resort to cheating, even against cheaters) and being more persistant to be heard, though prone to overtly blaming himself for making mistakes to the point where it affected his self-confidence. Either way, despite being the voice of reason, Tyson tromped all over him for the first two seasons.

That changed in G-Rev when Rei took a stand by being the first one to leave Tyson's side on his own will (Max is arguable; he never even considered leaving until he got a letter from his mother, whereas Rei was doubting Tyson right from the very beginning). He completely altered himself in order to push himself to the top by eliminating his nice and peaceful exterior and being a tough, but fair competitor. Despite not achieving his dreams, he fought and pushed until the bitter end, just as he did in the first season against Bryan. I think Rei desperately needed some real self-evalutation with no one but himself to judge over the first two seasons, and that's precisely what he did. I think in the end, it made him an even better character. It's only too bad I probably come out sounding so biased. XD;

So yes. Booyah. I think I've said enough now.
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To Shinneth:
Ummm... yeah, you did sound rather biased, I'm sorry to say :sweatdrop: .

With Takao and your views on him, most of it was rather... very biased, though you made some good points. It's rather obvious you don't like him very much :sweatdrop: .

If you rewatch the battle with Takao against Kai, the things that Kai thought/heard is, I believe, a rather strong argument against what you said, or maybe I'm just remembering it wrong ><.

Yes, V-Force a lot of messy stuff happened, but I believe that was development, not... 'undevelopmemt'. Same with G-Rev. With season 1, Takao... Takao learned some important things, but those were a bit different then how it went in G-Rev and such.

Can't explain it very well, but I think Takao didn't really develop too much during 1st season then the other seasons, except in his Beyblade skills. He was much more the moralistic rock in that season then the others, you know? Or maybe I'm just a n00b that hasn't watched enough 1st season to know what she's talking about :sweatdrop: .

I believe that Max had changed a lot since when it all started out, just in a much more subtle and normal way. He matured over time and learned some tough stuff, but they didn't really emphasize this as much as, say, Takao. He definently changed, he's a lot more in control and less in the background now. More... aggressive. And calm and in control. Did you guys notice that?

Daichi... don't know about Daichi, but he's probably changed a lot too. In certain aspects, but not enough to change his overall self. I agree, he probably changed the least amount, but I'm too lazy to think it over and dissect it until I come up with a more thorough conclusion. After all, my internet time is being cut majorly as of today :unsure: .

Kai... yes, it really does seem as if Kai barely changed at all when you compare how you usually see them in all the seasons. He was usually just quiet and sitting/standing in some corner or someplace looking like a statue.

But whenever I think about parts of how he was like in season 1, compared to how he is in V-Force, and then G-Rev... boy, he's a lot more pleasant now, to me at least. Don't you remember how sarcastic Kai could be? And how arrogant and how he thought so little of everyone else? And hated friendship, and team work, and all that? It's just... I can definantly see a difference.

And yeah, it's rather hard to see. And yes, maybe I'm biased too. Probably am. But maybe not.

I mean, I was originally thinking, when I saw this, 'Takao. He definently changed most.'. But then I looked down the list and thought about it, just because it was fun and I wanted to back up what I was saying. And I was looking for the changes in each person. That's when I saw the differences in Kai from season 1 down to G-Rev.

Yes, many characters seem to 'devolve' from whence they came, or whatever :shake: . It's rather depressing. However, that's what fanfiction and my crazy little theories come into play! I sometimes wonder if my theories are actually anything near realistic or totally crazy. Hm, I'll have to figure that out one day.

Rei... Rei is actually... wow, I think Rei is the one that changed the least amount throughout all this, even including Daichi and Max. With your little thing about Rei becoming more... standing up for himself more, I don't think that's the case.

I think highly of Rei, I truly do. I believe he was the most calm, steady, and mature(yes, including Kai) member of the team at the beginning, and still very level-headed at the very end, and didn't really need to change much, because he was already a rather well-rounded and mature person.

I can't remember things clearly from V-Force... but yes he changed. Every one of them changed, a lot, in some way. I think he may have learned to be a bit less eager to trust, with the Salima thing, but to try and still uphold an open-mindedness, again with Salima.

The Asian Tournament(Season 1), the Salima issue, the bit-beast stolen issue, and his whole entire personal issue in G-Rev were great turning points for Rei's life, wouldn't you agree? I don't remember too much clearly enough for a good evaluation though. I know, bad me ^^.

Can you think of any other major turning points for Rei? Or anything that might come as a whole for some kind of general maturing stage in his life? I can't -.-.

You know, now that I think of it, taking away my dad's bad smoking, drinking, and gambling habits(okay, that sounded really bad. He doesn't have any kind of problem, he just... he does the typical drinking beer, gambling with friends thing >_<), and his corny jokes and strange but still cornily funny sense of humour, and he's a lot like Rei. In terms of that calm, neutral, level feeling, and all that, but with more experience. My dad is awesome yo -_- .

Hmm... all I have to say I guess.
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By process of elimination, I've come to pretty much the same conclusion as Shinneth's.

I immediately ruled out Takao and Kai. At first glance, they may seem like the characters that change the most, but in my opinion, whatever lesson they learned in season one they seem to forget completely in the consequent seasons, and therefore they go through the same "development" again. Takao has only a few humbling moments, and although he has matured somewhat in terms of behavior, he never stops reverting back to his smug, overconfident, overappreciated self. Kai seems to resolve his issues with loyalty and desire for power in season one, but no, he's back to jumping teams in G-rev. All in all, both their maturity levels/personalities seem to stay pretty stagnant.

Maxie is just Maxie and will stay as just Maxie. <3 I rather like the fact that in G-rev, he's not nearly as hyperactive as he was in season one, but he still retains every bit of his optimism and awesome attitude. It's not true to say Max hasn't gone through any development though- he may not have changed much, but his character has been developed from the sugar-high blond who bounced off walls to a more serious but still happy kid who actually does become upset once in a great while.

I'm getting lazy, so I'll just stop now. I vote Rei.
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Ali&Stephie,Nov 5 2005
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Can you think of any other major turning points for Rei? Or anything that might come as a whole for some kind of general maturing stage in his life? I can't -.-.

The thing with development is that it doesn't have to involve a character pulling 180s on themselves to make it development. Rei's general personality (save for his toughened routine for early G-Rev) remained a constant, but I don't believe the first-season Rei would have to cojones to do what third-season Rei did. Rather than completely flipping out and changing everything about himself, he built on to what he already had, which is natural in improving oneself, therefore, a positive development.

Max went a very similar way since his general personality remained constant throughout the series; what changed about him most of all, I think, was his innocence. It's hardened him a tad, but in a way it makes him stronger because despite the bad things that happen to him, he didn't become a trustless recluse like Kai. XD So he built on in development very logically.

The others have developed in a sense, but like lyrikkal said and what I was trying to say earlier, characters like Tyson and Kai do very little building-on (at least, logically it seems not to be this way) when they keep reverting back to their same personalities with Kai having trust issues and this irrational fear of being civil and Tyson being egotistical and not very insightful regarding others.

In a way, it's kind of the storyline's faults for having such a staggering lack of continuity between the seasons confuse the development flow. I mean, when you think about it, aside from Hilary and the end segments, one could argue that VForce was entirely AU. NO ONE ever goes back to reminisce about what ever happened about VForce by G-Rev, in fact, the way the characters act, they seriously act like it never happened. The most they'll lightly reference to it for Tyson's second reigning championship, though they'll always neglect to mention that Max was joint-champion alongside him. That would've made things *way* more interesting considering Max's development when he made the decision to leave the Bladebreakers.

Personally, I like acknowledging the plothole-filled VForce as canon just to make a lot of speculation to how things went, but one can't deny it did a handy job in creating situations where Kai and Tyson are basically behaving like broken records in G Revolution.
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Or anything that might come as a whole for some kind of general maturing stage in his life?


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The thing with development is that it doesn't have to involve a character pulling 180s on themselves to make it development.


That's why I added that sentence. 'General maturing stage'. You could have said something like 'In V-Force Rei slowly gained more confidence in himself, and became slightly more aggressive and more confident, you can tell by how he tends to act over here and then over there' or blah blah. Sorry that didn't come out clear >_<.

Also, now that we keep tossing the tennis ball back and forth, I see that we're rather looking at the question differently, which might be the problem here. I feel like we're just starting to talk ourselves into a circle <_< .

I'm looking at major life-changing developments that change someone's overall mind and values and crud, what I believe to be the most important at heart or whatever.

Shinneth is looking at how a person is generally developing over time and what is happening to... dang, what's that word... something that starts with a 'p'... aw, whatever, I'll use the weird words. Starting over, how a person is generally developing over time and what's happening to update or produce a better quality of(sounds like some kind of byproduct <_< ) a person and his or her general being.

And then there's the view of seeing it as how much a person has become mature or learned the normal things with time and the... upgrading... to their minds and brain... and stuff, and then there's the view of just their emotions, how they usually feel. How Takao used to always be happy and positive even at bad times, and then later became a bit more calmer and slighter more... damp, I guess you could say(Darn my memory bank...).

Etc., etc., etc.. And like Shinneth said, with the way they tend to not really connect the 3 series together, that kind of sucks, and really messes with the developmental issue. So in a way, I guess many apsects of what we all are saying are true despite the fact that many of it is an argument against what we each other are saying. If that made sense...

Also, Shinneth, I already said in another thread something about how V-Force really seems more like a filler season then anything else :sweatdrop: . But doesn't it seem like just a filler season between Seasons 1 and 3? Especially with the way the V-Force plot was all strange, more like a series of plotlines.

Nevertheles, I enjoyed all season, despite the fact that I missed so many good ones.

And lyrikkal, Takao's overconfidence, smugness, etc. are all part of him, it's his personality. I would hate it if he suddenly became modest, because truth betold, I really like him how he is. I'd love to have a friend like him, if there was a person like him at my school. And I'm also guessing you don't like Takao, am I correct? Sorry if I sound assuming, there are just so many Takao-bashing fics out there, it really boils my blood.

Yes, Kai's little power issues... I believe his craving to be the best will never be quenched, it's something that's been the constitution of his life since... since birth really. But I believe that if I were to have the time to do such a thing, I could talk my way around your arguments, because... I'm stubborn like that :mellow: . Stubborn, with a strange way of looking at things...

So, basically, since we all seem intelligent here, we could argue until the world ends and just talk each other around these same paths and be unable to find a way to block these paths, because... well, because truly, with the generally broad question, slightly biased views, and broken up storyline with its occasional events and actions that don't truly make sense, it's really impossible to come to a true conclusion unless Takao Aoki himself comes down upon us and tells us his ultimate choice/opinion :mellow: .

Ja ne,
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Ali&Stephie,Nov 5 2005
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So, basically, since we all seem intelligent here, we could argue until the world ends and just talk each other around these same paths and be unable to find a way to block these paths, because... well, because truly, with the generally broad question, slightly biased views, and broken up storyline with its occasional events and actions that don't truly make sense, it's really impossible to come to a true conclusion unless Takao Aoki himself comes down upon us and tells us his ultimate choice/opinion :mellow: .

I don't know about you, but I wasn't arguing anything. There's a clear difference between stating your opinion and forcing your opinion on others / trying to get them to agree. I was just expressing my opinion and my reasons. (or rather, I began to, then I got lazy. :D)

Because really, this isn't a one-word answer question. It's a topic for DISCUSSION, precisely what forums are here for.

And besides.. I still think "development" can mean a whole lot more than bighugeblatant personality changes.
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I'm stuck between Max and Rei.
But i'll vote Rei.
Not gonna spend ages explaining my choice right now- but maybe i'll edit it in sometime
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lyrikkal,Nov 5 2005
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Ali&Stephie,Nov 5 2005
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So, basically, since we all seem intelligent here, we could argue until the world ends and just talk each other around these same paths and be unable to find a way to block these paths, because... well, because truly, with the generally broad question, slightly biased views, and broken up storyline with its occasional events and actions that don't truly make sense, it's really impossible to come to a true conclusion unless Takao Aoki himself comes down upon us and tells us his ultimate choice/opinion :mellow: .

There's a clear difference between stating your opinion and forcing your opinion on others / trying to get them to agree.

Because really, this isn't a one-word answer question. It's a topic for DISCUSSION, precisely what forums are here for.

.... that's about exactly what I would've said. XD There's no real argument, just agreeing and disagreeing and opinions. Same as any other thread on the forum.

No matter how filler VForce is, regardless, it's always going to be there, hence I don't plan on neglecting it, even if it does make the developmental process barely make any sense (one could arguably say even G-Rev helps in that by being the season that turns everything around by undoing VForce).

Considering how the manga's fairly different from the anime, I'd have my doubts on even Takao Aoki clearing anything up. Much better to leave each to his/her own. XD
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*Sigh* Why must everything I say be misinterpreted in some way? I'm sorry, as you probably well know, I am extremely horrible at expressing myself, in any way, and that includes in words.

To lyrikkal:
When I said 'arguing', I didn't really mean forcing one's opinion or trying to get someone to agree at all :sweatdrop: .

At my school, a few people and I argue about a handful of things, but we know that there's no doubt that we'd be unable to change each other's opinions or beliefs. I really only argue with them because it's fun, and I guess they argue because they either believe strongly in what they say and like to talk(actually, that's kinda' like me) or think it's fun too.

And on this debate board I go to(I don't go there much anymore...) we also like to 'argue' with each other, just for the sake of arguing because it's rather fun, but all sides know that we'll most likely never be able to change each other's opinions whatever.

That was a quite clear message right over at that board, and I guess because of that I didn't think that anybody here would think different for the word 'argue'... I'm too assuming, eugh >_<;;.

Also, I have nothing against you pointing out your opinion, I like to read nice, long posts, because short posts kind of get me a teensy bit hissy since they're boring and kind of waste my time(I sound impatient don't I?).

I was actually directing more towards Shinneth a bit, I guess. I'll explain that to Shinneth, so you can read my responce to her if you'd like.

Also, 'discussion'. I know, I like discussion on forums. But when discussion starts to run in a bit of a circle, I tend to get a bit frustrated :sweatdrop: . I'll also explain that to Shinneth.

And of course I know this isn't a one-word answer thing, I almost never post at one-word answer things. I really don't like one-word posts and reviews, they're rather pointless and/or annoying to me.

And I think I might have explained something, indirectly, about bighugeblatant personality changes... I believe I said something about 'development can come in so many forms and perspectives, from big changes to a person's belief, to how their general mood is, etc.', to paraphrase a bit on that. Hmmm... I know, I'm horrible at expressing myself <_< . I'm sorry, I seriously need to learn to word posts better or something ><.

To Shinneth:
Hm, well, agreeing and disagreeing and opinions... I see that as 'arguing', but I don't really see 'arguing' as a bad thing all the time. I tend to have a lot of fun 'arguing' if it isn't a a stupid or too serious argument. I guess kind of like debate, though I think I rather suck at debate and collecting accurate information.

Maybe Forensics and Debate will help me with that. Hopefully anyway. It's supposed to do something like give confidence in a person and help them to talk in front of people and collect data and stuff... supposedly... I mean, Home EC was [/i]supposed[/i] to teach me how to uphold myself in the real world or something, but I don't even remember how to properly sew a button on, and they taught me that twice...

And V-Force... you know, funny, I'm rather certain I posted somewhere else (indirectly) about that comment of yours as well. I stated somewhere that despite how V-Force was rather 'broken up', what I really liked about it was the wealth of possible information that one could derive from the season, so I'm far from going and neglecting it :sweatdrop: .

I tend to like looking at the best possble things in an anime/manga(unless it's something stupid like 'Crazy Love Story'... I mean, I can take some really weird stories, but that one was just stupid, it didn't make any sort of sense in any form...), and so if I wanted, I could look at V-Force and find a way to convince myself that it was the best season of them all, or something like that.

And yeah, I realize how different the manga is from the anime, I've read a few ^^'. It's crazy-different from the anime, for me at least. I've only been able to look at a few of the mangas, read the 1st manga fully, and I have a Korean version of... the 11th I think, G-Rev by looking at the clothes and the fact that Daichi's in it, but it's in Korean so I only understand some of it. But I can tell the two are definently different. And anyway, that part with Aoki was a bit of a joke on my part ^^'.

However, to some people, the original creator of an idea is what could be considered the 'God' of what's truly going on. I thought like this for a while, and am still adjusting how I should look at things in anime and manga, so it's rather arguable. And I don't want to argue about that, that'd just be stupid because... that's off-topic for one ^^'.

And no, I'm not saying you started an argument or anything. I said I was bad a expressing myself, so if I made a comment you didn't like in this or the last paragraph or whatever, it might just be because of that. Sorry!

Also, the reason I said we should stop 'arguing' was simply because I felt we were starting to go in a rather disfigured circle. I mentioned a debate board before, no? Well, at that board, I had to restate what I said and elaborate and explain more clearly what I meant to say numerous times, in order for someone to understand my 'argument'. And people would say things, and then they'd have to say things again to back what they're saying even though their arguments were perfectly sound, and they'd have to elaborate on rather obvious things(the dense guy was cooking up conspiracy theories on science...).

And then somehow it would end with 'oh, well, this was getting a bit off-topic, it's getting no where' and maybe 'it was a stupid topic anyway' and such. And so I'd be frustrated(Christianity isn't a 'stupid topic' concerning debate ><), and I'd only remember from the topic, 'Oh, I remember saying this to that guy... and then having to explain this, this, and this to him about that because he didn't understand... and then I had to explain this too... and he didn't understand this other person when she said that so I remember explaining for her...' etc..

I just don't want to think of this conversation as something that went like 'Oh, I said this about my opinion... someone said this and I thought it was a bit biased and explained why... someone agreed with that other person... and then I explained again on this one issue, and then stated this about this other thing... and then these two other people said that it could also go in this direction, which made sense so I remember saying this to let them know that, then said this to fit my opinion into it... and then they said that this sounded biased and that what about if it was like that other situation that so-and-so pointed out...' etc..

That was a bit confusing, a bad example, but I definently feel the hints of a tiny argumentative thing going on in this topic, and I guess I sensed that it would be a bit pointless, at least to myself.

Incredibly long post after incredibly long post, and... I saw it, and had vague ideas of what people might say to this or that as I wrote the last post, and felt that it might have been the taddest bit repetitive... and last time that that kind of thing kept on happening at a forum, I got fed up with it and up and left because the conversation was starting to sound dumb...

Not that I'm saying that this forum is dumb, there are too many (seemingly, I don't really know you guys since I'm new) intelligent people here for conversation to turn dumb. But I didn't want to make this little issue thingy(well, not an issue, more like, again, throwing a tennis ball back and forth) start to blossom.

It's hard to express myself, I said that, and it kind of shows(really shows probably), and that above explanation was a good example of me having trouble expressing myself. Sorry, I need to learn better creative writing skills -_- .

Ja ne,
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Raineth
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Now that's a lot of reading. o-o

Anyways, all the characters didn't really undergo a dramatic change in terms of how they generally act. Takao was always stubborn, Kai never talked, Max was always optimistic, and Rei was always collected. But then again, Takao learned to be an independant champion, Kai learned to fight with passion, Max learned to believe in his abilities, and Rei learned... actually, I can't remember.

Fact of the matter is that they all went under some changes. Maybe some more than others. If anything, Takao and Kai would have had to have the most change in them.
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I would say Takao.He had always that complex of being a Champion and lost control many times but he learned from his mistakes,he grown up.
The others just stayed like they were before.I don´t think Max or Ray have changed much.Kai maybe changed but not that much.Takao changed.And of course since he is the main character he should change more..
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people are saying that kai hasent changed much since season 1, but he has.

in season 1 he was colder, and icier then the other seasons, either that or nelvana took out their pen, paper and scisoors ....

in season 2 he became more open, he kept cold on the outside, but you can tell he`d gotton slightly....warmer, notice the way he acted to wyatt late on the series?

season 3....not too sure actually, but something hit him on the head at the almost-end of season 1....
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